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    This post has gotten way to long.. It has been like 2 weeks since I read it... anything new discovered?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dragnmoon View Post
    This post has gotten way to long.. It has been like 2 weeks since I read it... anything new discovered?
    Yes.

    Lazy answer for a lazy question.

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    So far I've noticed that special tier 3 combined supreme shards only work if they are composed of the same two elements used at the first and second alter.

    Is this just speculation or is it too early to assume this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drith View Post
    Yes.

    Lazy answer for a lazy question.
    Ok i will be more specific..

    Have any new Weapon/ability Ingredient combinations been discovered in the last 2 weeks?..

    Has there been an eureka!!! Moment opened a whole slew of new ideas that leads to the many other powers that DDO has hinted are..

    Has anyone discovered the thing Eladrin said we were still missing many weeks ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dragnmoon View Post
    Ok i will be more specific..

    Have any new Weapon/ability Ingredient combinations been discovered in the last 2 weeks?..

    Has there been an eureka!!! Moment opened a whole slew of new ideas that leads to the many other powers that DDO has hinted are..

    Has anyone discovered the thing Eladrin said we were still missing many weeks ago.
    You don't seriously expect an answer do you? Just read over the thread, lots of things have been discovered, we cannot be expected to summarize everything every time someone makes a post like yours.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tunes
    So far I've noticed that special tier 3 combined supreme shards only work if they are composed of the same two elements used at the first and second alter.

    Is this just speculation or is it too early to assume this?
    I don't think ALL upgrades will be like this, but the ones that aren't will most definitely be harder to find since less people will want to take risks with more "random" combinations.

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    Well, the OP should be adjusting the starting posts with all the new finds and links to the images.
    i.e. salt II, magma II, vacuum II, smoke II, etc etc.

    There's been a lot discovered, on both items and weapons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qzipoun View Post
    You don't seriously expect an answer do you? Just read over the thread, lots of things have been discovered, we cannot be expected to summarize everything every time someone makes a post like yours.
    How about this... which resource has kept up to date.. if anyone knows.. since the Wiki seems not to have since nothing seems to be new there..?

    144 page thread is a bit much for me to start reading up on again..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vhlad/Sair View Post
    Well, the OP should be adjusting the starting posts with all the new finds and links to the images.
    i.e. salt II, magma II, vacuum II, smoke II, etc etc.

    There's been a lot discovered, on both items and weapons.

    Thanks for the info....

    Has anyone updated any of their resources for crafting with the new info found?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dragnmoon View Post
    How about this... which resource has kept up to date.. if anyone knows.. since the Wiki seems not to have since nothing seems to be new there..?

    144 page thread is a bit much for me to start reading up on again..
    Well these kinds of posts aren't helping. Just go to each page and scroll down looking for images. There's even a new craft on page 143! Another on 142. And another on 137...

    But it's posts like these and conversations like this that made this thread as bloated as it is now. We're really not helping!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragnmoon View Post
    How about this... which resource has kept up to date.. if anyone knows.. since the Wiki seems not to have since nothing seems to be new there..?

    144 page thread is a bit much for me to start reading up on again..
    umm... the Wiki is up to date and the first few posts of the thread have updated info.

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    So kargon was taking monthamally bath in black puddaming monstamers, and kargon made extra specimial mix includaming violamet slimes and arcane oozames to realamally relax. of course, then kargon dropped some spare Green Steel goggamels into silly bath when kargon was done and ooze bath was extrama potent, so was only one thing to do: give them to willmaphase and hope they melt his eyemaballs out

    (Ooze 2 goggamels screenmashot incomaming)

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    Default hmmm

    wiki is not upto date ... it is missing magma surge guard, steam II and a few other recent discoveries.

    www.ddocrafting.com has been updated every 12 hours since day one fyi lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raidon View Post
    wiki is not upto date ... it is missing magma surge guard, steam II and a few other recent discoveries.

    www.ddocrafting.com has been updated every 12 hours since day one fyi lol
    While promoting a site is all nice and dandy -- doing it by making a thinly veiled insult about the updates on another site is a bit rude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kargon View Post
    So kargon was taking monthamally bath in black puddaming monstamers, and kargon made extra specimial mix includaming violamet slimes and arcane oozames to realamally relax. of course, then kargon dropped some spare Green Steel goggamels into silly bath when kargon was done and ooze bath was extrama potent, so was only one thing to do: give them to willmaphase and hope they melt his eyemaballs out

    (Ooze 2 goggamels screenmashot incomaming)
    Argh my eyeballs are melting!!!

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    Sunder guard stacked with regular Sunder, I don't have Improved Sunder to test with any more. Total of -9 AC (-5 from the Ooze, -4 from Sunder). Save DC was 40 fort.
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    And I got an ooze to appear eventually. It was CR12.



    It appears upon short testing that the 'Ooze Sunder' effect is about 1 in 5 hits, and the 'summon ooze' effect is far far more rare - possibly only 1%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willphase View Post
    And I got an ooze to appear eventually. It was CR12.
    Does it split when attacked with a slashing weapon?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaodon View Post
    I think I have the "basic upgrade" tables complete. Can anyone check my work for errors?
    Thanks.


    Table 1 - 1st Upgrade at The Altar Of Invasion

    WEAPONS

    w/[MATERIAL] . [ESCALATION] . . . . . . [DOMINION] . . . . . . [OPPOSITION]
    [FIRE] . . . . . +6 Dex . . . . . . . . Flaming. . . . . . . . Fire Absorption 10%
    [AIR]. . . . . . +6 Dex . . . . . . . . Shock. . . . . . . . . Electric Absorption 10%
    [EARTH]. . . . . +6 Con . . . . . . . . Acid . . . . . . . . . Acid Absorption 10%
    [WATER]. . . . . +6 Str . . . . . . . . Frost. . . . . . . . . Cold Absorption 10%
    [POSIT]. . . . . +6 Con . . . . . . . . Holy . . . . . . . . . Healing Amplification 10%
    [NEGVE]. . . . . +6 Str . . . . . . . . Unholy . . . . . . . . Neg Energy Absorption 15%

    w/[ETHEREAL] . [ESCALATION] . . . . . . [DOMINION] . . . . . . [OPPOSITION]
    [FIRE] . . . . . +6 Int . . . . . . . . Imp Combustion 6 . . . Heightened Awareness
    [AIR]. . . . . . +6 Cha . . . . . . . . Imp Magnetism 6. . . . Heightened Awareness
    [EARTH]. . . . . +6 Wis . . . . . . . . Imp Corrosion 6. . . . Heightened Awareness
    [WATER]. . . . . +6 Wis . . . . . . . . Imp Glaciation 6 . . . Heightened Awareness
    [POSIT]. . . . . +6 Cha . . . . . . . . Imp Devotion 6 . . . . Heightened Awareness
    [NEGVE]. . . . . +6 Int . . . . . . . . Imp Nullification 6. . Heightened Awareness

    ITEMS

    w/[MATERIAL] . [ESCALATION] . . . . . . [DOMINION] . . . . . . [OPPOSITION]
    [FIRE] . . . . +1 Dex Sk,Elem.Energy. . Minor Fire Guard . . . Greater Fire Resist
    [AIR]. . . . . +1 Dex Sk,Elem.Energy. . Minor Lightn.Guard . . Greater Lightning Resist
    [EARTH]. . . . +1 Con Sk,Elem.Energy. . Minor Acid Guard . . . Greater Acid Resist
    [WATER]. . . . +1 Str Sk,Elem.Energy. . Minor Ice Guard. . . . Greater Cold Resist
    [POSIT]. . . . +1 Con Sk.Elem.Energy. . Minor Good Guard . . . Lesser Regeneration
    [NEGVE]. . . . +1 Str Sk,Elem.Energy. . Minor Evil Guard . . . Blindness Ward, Disease Immunity

    w/[ETHEREAL] . [ESCALATION] . . . . . . [DOMINION] . . . . . . [OPPOSITION]
    [FIRE] . . . . Wiz6, +1 Int Sk. . . . . Fire Lore. . . . . . . Reflex Save +5
    [AIR]. . . . . Wiz6, +1 Cha Sk. . . . . Lightning Lore . . . . Reflex Save +5
    [EARTH]. . . . Wiz6, +1 Wis Sk. . . . . Acid Lore. . . . . . . Fortitude Save +5
    [WATER]. . . . Wiz6, +1 Wis Sk. . . . . Ice Lore . . . . . . . Will Save +5
    [POSIT]. . . . Wiz6, +1 Cha Sk. . . . . Healing Lore . . . . . Will Save +5
    [NEGVE]. . . . Wiz6, +1 Int Sk. . . . . Void Lore. . . . . . . Fortitude Save +5


    Table 2 - 2nd Upgrade at The Altar Of Subjugation

    WEAPONS

    w/[MATERIAL] . [ESCALATION] . . . . . . . . . [DOMINION]. . . . . . . . . . [OPPOSITION]
    [FIRE] . . . . +1 Excep Dex . . . . . . . . . Flaming Burst . . . . . . . . Fire Absorption 15%
    [AIR]. . . . . +1 Excep Dex . . . . . . . . . Shock Burst . . . . . . . . . Lightning Absorption 15%
    [EARTH]. . . . +1 Excep Con . . . . . . . . . Acid Burst . . . . . . . . .. Acid Absorption 15%
    [WATER]. . . . +1 Excep Str . . . . . . . . . Frost Burst . . . . . . . . . Cold Absorption 15%
    [POSIT]. . . . +1 Excep Con . . . . . . . . . Good Burst . . . . . . . . .. Healing Amplification 20%
    [NEGVE]. . . . +1 Excep Str . . . . . . . . . Evil Burst . . . . . . . . .. Neg Energy Absorption 20%

    w/[ETHEREAL] . [ESCALATION] . . . . . . . . . [DOMINION]. . . . . . . . . . [OPPOSITION]
    [FIRE] . . . . +1 Excep Int . . . . . . . . . Greater Combustion 6 . . . .. Heightened Awareness 2
    [AIR]. . . . . +1 Excep Cha . . . . . . . . . Greater Magnetism 6 . . . . . Heightened Awareness 2
    [EARTH]. . . . +1 Excep Wis . . . . . . . . . Greater Corrosion 6 . . . . . Heightened Awareness 2
    [WATER]. . . . +1 Excep Wis . . . . . . . . . Greater Glaciation 6 . . . .. Heightened Awareness 2
    [POSIT]. . . . +1 Excep Cha . . . . . . . . . Greater Devotion 6 . . . . .. Heightened Awareness 2
    [NEGVE]. . . . +1 Excep Int . . . . . . . . . Greater Nullification 6 . . . Heightened Awareness 2

    ITEMS

    w/[MATERIAL] . [ESCALATION] . . . . . . . . . [DOMINION]. . . . . . . . . . [OPPOSITION]
    [FIRE] . . . . +2 Dex Sk, Imp.Elem.Energy . . Lesser Fire Guard . . . . . . Inherent Fire Resist(5)
    [AIR]. . . . . +2 Dex Sk, Imp.Elem.Energy . . Lesser Lightning Guard. . . . Inherent Lightning Resist(5)
    [EARTH]. . . . +2 Con Sk, Imp.Elem.Energy . . Lesser Acid Guard . . . . . . Inherent Acid Resist(5)
    [WATER]. . . . +2 Str Sk, Imp.Elem.Energy . . Lesser Cold Guard . . . . . . Inherent Cold Resist(5)
    [POSIT]. . . . +2 Con Sk, Imp.Elem.Energy . . Lesser Good Guard . . . . . . Improved Regeneration
    [NEGVE]. . . . +2 Str Sk, Imp.Elem.Energy . . Lesser Evil Guard . . . . . . Fear Immunity, Proof of Poison

    w/[ETHEREAL] . [ESCALATION] . . . . . . . . . [DOMINION]. . . . . . . . . . [OPPOSITION]
    [FIRE] . . . . +2 Int Sk, Spell Power . . . . Greater Fire Lore . . . . . . Except Save Bonus Ref +1
    [AIR]. . . . . +2 Cha Sk, Spell Power . . . . Greater Lightning Lore. . . . Except Save Bonus Ref +1
    [EARTH]. . . . +2 Wis Sk, Spell Power . . . . Greater Acid Lore . . . . . . Except Save Bonus Fort +1
    [WATER]. . . . +2 Wis Sk, Spell Power . . . . Greater Ice Lore . . . . . .. Except Save Bonus Will +1
    [POSIT]. . . . +2 Cha Sk, Spell Power . . . . Greater Heal Lore . . . . . . Except Save Bonus Will +1
    [NEGVE]. . . . +2 Int Sk, Spell Power . . . . Greater Void Lore . . . . . . Except Save Bonus Fort +1


    Table 3 - 3rd Upgrade at The Altar Of Devastation

    WEAPONS

    w/[MATERIAL] . [ESCALATION] . . . . . . . . . . . . . [DOMINION]. . . . . . . . . [OPPOSITION]
    [FIRE] . . . . +2 Excep Dex . . . . . . . . . . . . . Fire Blast . . . . . . . .. Fire Absorb 20%
    [AIR]. . . . . +2 Excep Dex . . . . . . . . . . . . . Lightning Blast . . . . . . Lightning Absorb 20%
    [EARTH]. . . . +2 Excep Con . . . . . . . . . . . . . Acid Blast . . . . . . . .. Acid Absorb 20%
    [WATER]. . . . +2 Excep Str . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ice Blast . . . . . . . . . Frost Absorb 20%
    [POSIT]. . . . +2 Excep Con . . . . . . . . . . . . . Good Blast . . . . . . . .. Healing Amplification 30%
    [NEGVE]. . . . +2 Excep Str . . . . . . . . . . . . . Evil Blast . . . . . . . .. Neg Energy Absorption 25%

    w/[ETHEREAL] . [ESCALATION] . . . . . . . . . . . . . [DOMINION]. . . . . . . . . [OPPOSITION]
    [FIRE] . . . . +2 Excep Int . . . . . . . . . . . . . Superior Combustion 6 . . . Heightened Awareness 4
    [AIR]. . . . . +2 Excep Cha . . . . . . . . . . . . . Superior Magnetism 6 . . .. Heightened Awareness 4
    [EARTH]. . . . +2 Excep Wis . . . . . . . . . . . . . Superior Corrosion 6 . . .. Heightened Awareness 4
    [WATER]. . . . +2 Excep Wis . . . . . . . . . . . . . Superior Glaciation 6 . . . Heightened Awareness 4
    [POSIT]. . . . +2 Excep Cha . . . . . . . . . . . . . Superior Devotion 6 . . . . Heightened Awareness 4
    [NEGVE]. . . . +2 Excep Int . . . . . . . . . . . . . Superior Nullification 6 .. Heightened Awareness 4

    ITEMS

    w/[MATERIAL] . [ESCALATION] . . . . . . . . . . . . . [DOMINION]. . . . . . . . . [OPPOSITION]
    [FIRE] . . . . +3 Dex Sk, Greater Elem Energy . . . . Fire Guard. . . . . . . . . Inherent Fire Resist (10)
    [AIR]. . . . . +3 Dex Sk, Greater Elem Energy . . . . Lightning Guard . . . . . . Inherent Lightning Resist (10)
    [EARTH]. . . . +3 Con Sk, Greater Elem Energy . . . . Acid Guard. . . . . . . . . Inherent Acid Resist (10)
    [WATER]. . . . +3 Str Sk, Greater Elem Energy . . . . Ice Guard . . . . . . . . . Inherent Frost Resist (10)
    [POSIT]. . . . +3 Con Sk, Greater Elem Energy . . . . Good Guard. . . . . . . . . Superior Regeneration
    [NEGVE]. . . . +3 Str Sk, Greater Elem Energy . . . . Evil Guard. . . . . . . . . Death Block

    w/[ETHEREAL] . [ESCALATION] . . . . . . . . . . . . . [DOMINION]. . . . . . . . . [OPPOSITION]
    [FIRE] . . . . +3 Int Sk, Greater Spell Power . . . . Superior Fire Lore. . . . . Exceptional Ref +2
    [AIR]. . . . . +3 Cha Sk, Greater Spell Power . . . . Superior Lightning Lore . . Exceptional Ref +2
    [EARTH]. . . . +3 Wis Sk, Greater Spell Power . . . . Superior Acid Lore. . . . . Exceptional Fort +2
    [WATER]. . . . +3 Wis Sk, Greater Spell Power . . . . Superior Ice Lore . . . . . Exceptional Will +2
    [POSIT]. . . . +3 Cha Sk, Greater Spell Power . . . . Superior Healing Lore . . . Exceptional Will +2
    [NEGVE]. . . . +3 Int Sk, Greater Spell Power . . . . Superior Void Lore. . . . . Exceptional Fort +2
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragnmoon View Post
    Thanks for the info....

    Has anyone updated any of their resources for crafting with the new info found?

    Page 1 of this post is up to date on the tier 3 upgrades "ie latest information"
    Still have to push the info down the first 4 posts though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gol View Post
    Yep.

    Fire + Water = Water
    Air + Water = Air
    Earth + Water = <UNKNOWN>
    Earth + Air = Earth
    Fire + Earth = Fire
    Fire + Air = Fire
    Positive + Negative = Positive
    (Element) + (Energy) = (Element)*
    Earth + Negative = <UNKNOWN>

    *Earth + Negative (Dust) is speculated to be an exception to the (Element) + (Energy) rule, but we've neither seen nor heard of it being tested.
    Ooze II shows that water beats earth, making the new order (or Sunday's order of the day anyway)

    water, fire, earth, air, positive, negative

    With the exception that it would appear that air beats water (ADM WDM Shard)

    Garth

    p.s. I don't think Negative will beat Earth.

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