Also, does anyone else feel like playing PONG all of a sudden?
PS - But make sure the sticks on both sides are of the same size.
PS2 - Yes, I read it too :S
10/6/3 gives one level left over- I'm planning on the 7th wiz level for 4th level spells. I started this char before even the bard pass (shows how much I've played this char) and the original plan was 12/7/1 (rog/wiz/fighter) I already have 10/5/1 rog wiz fighter - so paladin isn't an option - I'd probably prefer 3 fighter for the 2 feats over 3 paladin on this build anyways.
Gentlemen, it's been a pleasure, but my "other work" demands my attention. :P
Have a blast and thanks for keeping the bitter comments out of this (for the most part).
That char has cha as a dump stat, makes UMD'ing heal scrolls a pain.... imp evasion, fom, dw, prot evil takes away the need for high saves most of the time though. That char will probably TR at 20-23ish and alternate between caster and stick builds - all of my btc stuff on that char is either caster or acro orientated and the only pl that char has is a sorc one.
I would be fully ok with what they do chai, if they just did it faster.
I mean no disrespect toward turbine, but its just to slow.
Look at the mess we have now, defacto barbs palies and bards are strong.
Casters fell off since undead content doesnt synergize well with some casters and construcst just purely suck as caster.
THey pushed barbs, palies n bards and made list of stuff they will change.
Ok, all cool but do i really need to wait for 8 more months before they fix druid?
10 months before they make kensei ok?
A year and half before they add third sorc tree?
I mean srsly, it is very very bad what they do.
If i for example like rogue and see the current change that really brings nothing to rogues to be on par with current super classes, why would i play ddo ?
Since i know that next rougue buff is upcoming in late 2017 or early 2018?
I hope you get what i mean, they do their work to slow that i would agree with you.
Ok, buffing all, making everyhint selfsustainable uber dps and never giving any content to challenge you that involves new mechanics, but only more hp to beat on.
Ok lets get around that and say ok wel forgive them.
But why do they change rogue to be so weak even after the pass?
What to expect in future?
That barbs palies and bards still dominate without a nerf to their op stuff, and just get along with the wave of, everything is good
If only they simply did their work faster.
Last edited by Blackheartox; 03-30-2015 at 03:16 PM.
I agree for the most part.
Bards and paladins were nerfed already however. The reason rogues cant be as powerful is because the same people argued for nerfs after each revamp. If rogues were made as powerful those folks would demand nerfs to it as well. Kind of made their own bed on that unfortunately. Be careful what we ask for and all that.
As far as too slow - limited resources. Do we want no content for a year while they do nothing but revamp classes? Or do we want content during that time.
You were talking about cleric and PM auras and comparing them to spells. 60 apples does not equal 500 apples.
Scroll using rogues fail concentration checks, quickened spells do not. 0 apples does not equal 500 apples.
It's impossible for me to make this any simpler. 60 apples does not equal 500 apples.
Throw in DPS loss from scroll healing and now we're comparing oranges and apples. But that might blow your mind, so I've decided not to go there anymore...
Have a nice day, Chai.
60? LOL not with todays heal amp sorry.
Again with the scrolls. Youre not considering the other possibilities in place with todays heal amp.
How you arrived at 60 is flawed
Compared to what, the even more DPS loss from character death?
You certainly did, as the explanation offered lacks context of todays DDO. 60 points - yeah, back in 2011 maybe.
For the objective reader - Calc the average unmodified tick of a CSW then compare to the unmodified tick of a RS heal aura. Then add in all the same mods for both. You will clearly see that if someone can get their CSW as high as your OP example which is being over reacted to, then they can also get a heal aura to the point where they do not have to cast other spells to stay alive. With the capstone, my moderately geared permadeath RS cleric gets radiant aura ticks near 200. He doesn't have anywhere near the heal amp which would be considered max or approaching max, but does have some.
Will do.
I'm really starting to worry that the world may be ending. First Chai agrees with something I posted and now I'm finding that I agree with Chai -- with the sentiment if not the exact wording.
I guess I'll prolong life on the planet for a while longer by observing that it probably isn't every single player -- but really, its just because I don't want the earth to explode.
Most of the feedback I've gotten in threads lately has been to tell me that the ultra elitist EE mentality doesn't apply to the game right now. So I find it incredibly hard to believe that the players are asking for flavor builds to disappear -- even in the forums.