Tome retention - allow +3 trade in for purified eberron shards

[sirgog]

Do you know of anyone with dozens of toons stocked with ill-gotten +3 tomes? Or are you just making baseless accusations based on your cognitive bias?

I'd name some, but Turbine punish calling out cheats more than they punish cheating.

People whose accounts should have been deleted instead got 6 hour bans.

[Munkenmo]

I'd name some, but Turbine punish calling out cheats more than they punish cheating.

People whose accounts should have been deleted instead got 6 hour bans.

Why should their accounts have been deleted?

At the end of the day I don't really see how the effect from this was worse than the dowsing rod fiasco (which i'll admit left me peeved as i refused to partake) yet it seems most of the player base deems rods ok and chests omg ban despite the outcome both ways being AH prices inflated.

Infact the way i see it, some of those people aren't competing with me for +3 tomes anymore, GREAT!

[Tomalon]

Didnt read the whole thread so dont know if this was said or not.

But i would rather see all +3 tomes become unbound or maybe even BTA instead of what the OP is asking for.

[GotSomeQuestions]

Do you know of anyone with dozens of toons stocked with ill-gotten +3 tomes? Or are you just making baseless accusations based on your cognitive bias?

I don't personally know anyone who exploited the chests, but there are two or three people who spam trade chat pretty frequently with offers to sell +3 tomes. Maybe they just have a few, that they got legitimately. But I doubt it.

[NaturalHazard]

Infact the way i see it, some of those people aren't competing with me for +3 tomes anymore, GREAT!

yeah but some of the more greedy ones will still roll on the bound +3 tome so they can free up the unbound one to sell.

[MRMechMan]

I don't personally know anyone who exploited the chests, but there are two or three people who spam trade chat pretty frequently with offers to sell +3 tomes. Maybe they just have a few, that they got legitimately. But I doubt it.

I agree. It is beyond shameful. And there's no way to know who it really is because its just a level4 vet status character that whoevers acct rolled up...could be a guildy, a friend...sickening...

Someone hawking 5-6 +3 tomes in a trade channel...what did they ransack elite sins with a chest blesser and huge jewel of fortune 10x???

Oh wait, +3 tomes don't really drop in non-exploit non-raid situations.

Anyone posting multiple +3 tomes in a trade channel needs at a minimum a serious look at.

As for the OP...

/signed, if you have 2 bound +3 tomes and they now carry through TRs, I guess crunching it is the only thing to do.

I don't think there would be an issue with anyone taking +3 tomes to crunch them instead of putting them for roll...that is pretty low (but who knows...)

[Superspeed_Hi5]

Do you know of anyone with dozens of toons stocked with ill-gotten +3 tomes? Or are you just making baseless accusations based on your cognitive bias?

Yea I do they got banned for a week when they were bragging about all over Gland. Which was great for them because it gave them a week to play Skyrim with no DDO interruption. Also that sounded like an insult. Baseless accusations, please. Those of us in the know all know who partook and who didnt. We know what guilds partook and which didnt. Even if I didnt I would be entitled to my opinion on why, and I dont see any reason why we should make it easier for them to pull ahead.

Would be funny if as punishment Turbine converted all those +3 tomes into Vacuous Grimoires, with their permanent ability drain. Each would weigh 100lbs and be stuck to their inventory slot until read.

Thats something I would sign in a muther f-in heartbeat!

[DogMania]

I would crunch 1 as a +3 tome to me is quite worthless as your toons modifier is based on the even number not the odd and as most people have basicaly made there toon with even numbers what use is a +3 tome?, now a +4 is a different kettle of fish

[Fomori]

I would crunch 1 as a +3 tome to me is quite worthless as your toons modifier is based on the even number not the odd and as most people have basicaly made there toon with even numbers what use is a +3 tome?, now a +4 is a different kettle of fish

You do know that in real world math, odd + odd = even...

What it means is that with a +3 over a +2 you might not need that exceptional +1 ... or to take that last enhancement stat increase.

Planning from the get go, a 14 dex (on a non elf) is TWO build points less than a 15 dex, if you are using a tome to reach 17 for itwf/gtwf.

There are plenty of places where the +1 can help you make your character better and free up slots/points. Ergo your comment is just flat out wrong!

[DogMania]

You do know that in real world math, odd + odd = even...

What it means is that with a +3 over a +2 you might not need that exceptional +1 ... or to take that last enhancement stat increase.

Planning from the get go, a 14 dex (on a non elf) is TWO build points less than a 15 dex, if you are using a tome to reach 17 for itwf/gtwf.

There are plenty of places where the +1 can help you make your character better and free up slots/points. Ergo your comment is just flat out wrong!

LOL Of course I know that but by the time you are running high level quests you probably will already have that exceptional +1 or +2

[Solmage]

Change all existing and future +3s to unbound status, or at least BTA.

Change all existing exploit tomes to +3 btc.

Fixed.

[Miow]

That is fine with me or make +3 tomes bta

[Thrudh]

At the end of the day I don't really see how the effect from this was worse than the dowsing rod fiasco (which i'll admit left me peeved as i refused to partake) yet it seems most of the player base deems rods ok and chests omg ban despite the outcome both ways being AH prices inflated.

Pretty much anyone who was mad at the one, was also mad at the other.

I don't know anyway who thought the rod fiasco was okay, but was mad at the chest fiasco.

Where do you get the idea that "most of the player base" was opposite of what I've seen in game and on these boards?

[lugoman]

That is fine with me or make +3 tomes bta

Why is making them bta any different than letting them be used as a crafting ingredient? Either way they wont be rolled. How many people are getting +3 tomes in rolls? With tr'ing it is rare to see them rolled.

[Miow]

Why is making them bta any different than letting them be used as a crafting ingredient? Either way they wont be rolled. How many people are getting +3 tomes in rolls? With tr'ing it is rare to see them rolled.

I'm not sure what your trying to say, as far as being different no the end result is not different but people would have two extra options to chose from for their tomes they currently have stocked away for their next life. It is already rare to see them rolled for sure, or they usually are passed to a friend or guildy that need them. I'm a little confused as to how you are interpreting my previous statement.

[MRMechMan]

LOL Of course I know that but by the time you are running high level quests you probably will already have that exceptional +1 or +2

Some people get a +3 tome and then save it and TR.

[Calonderial]

Didnt read the whole thread so dont know if this was said or not.

But i would rather see all +3 tomes become unbound or maybe even BTA instead of what the OP is asking for.

/signed wholeheartedly

make all BTC tomes BTA now that they carry over so we can spread the love around