Tome retention - allow +3 trade in for purified eberron shards

[aurum1]

Minor issue, but I have some +3s stored up on toons that won't need them now since tome retention on TRs. Not much else to take on 20ths anyway once you have your gear. Now those tomes are worthless.

Let us crunch them into something or make end rewards BTA or something.

[karpedieme]

/signed

[PhotoRob]

It's a bit ironic that they actually had this in place for a little while, but took it out because of the outrage.

Still, doesn't seem a bad idea to me what with them being bound and all (I think?)

[Khurse]

/signed.

Simply because I'm amused at the thought of demanding they change it back.

[Missing_Minds]

/signed

To be expected really. When you change game mechanics, expect complaints and desires to change.

[Tsuarok]

/sighed

good call

[Superspeed_Hi5]

/not signed due to the sheer number of people that exploited chests in challenges that have dozens of toons stocked up on +3 tomes. It sucks for people that have the raid reward ones but theres not much that can be done about those.

[HungarianRhapsody]

/not signed due to the sheer number of people that exploited chests in challenges that have dozens of toons stocked up on +3 tomes. It sucks for people that have the raid reward ones but theres not much that can be done about those.

The +3 tomes that come from challenge chests are not bound. Those can be moved to characters that still need that flavor of tome or they can be sold to other players.

The only time someone would use the option of crunching a +3 tome into purified Eberron dragonshards is if they had a second BtC tome of a flavor that they had already eaten. No one would do that with an unbound +3 tome.

[NaturalHazard]

/not signed due to the sheer number of people that exploited chests in challenges that have dozens of toons stocked up on +3 tomes. It sucks for people that have the raid reward ones but theres not much that can be done about those.

why should those of us who never took part in this exploit be punished for what we didnt do?

The +3 tomes that come from challenge chests are not bound. Those can be moved to characters that still need that flavor of tome or they can be sold to other players.

The only time someone would use the option of crunching a +3 tome into purified Eberron dragonshards is if they had a second BtC tome of a flavor that they had already eaten. No one would do that with an unbound +3 tome.

True it wouldnt even bother those who took part in the exploits at all just needlessly punish the rest of us.

[GentlemanAndAScholar]

/not signed due to the sheer number of people that exploited chests in challenges that have dozens of toons stocked up on +3 tomes. It sucks for people that have the raid reward ones but theres not much that can be done about those.

Do you know of anyone with dozens of toons stocked with ill-gotten +3 tomes? Or are you just making baseless accusations based on your cognitive bias?

[sirgog]

Do you know of anyone with dozens of toons stocked with ill-gotten +3 tomes? Or are you just making baseless accusations based on your cognitive bias?

I'd name some, but Turbine punish calling out cheats more than they punish cheating.

People whose accounts should have been deleted instead got 6 hour bans.

[Munkenmo]

I'd name some, but Turbine punish calling out cheats more than they punish cheating.

People whose accounts should have been deleted instead got 6 hour bans.

Why should their accounts have been deleted?

At the end of the day I don't really see how the effect from this was worse than the dowsing rod fiasco (which i'll admit left me peeved as i refused to partake) yet it seems most of the player base deems rods ok and chests omg ban despite the outcome both ways being AH prices inflated.

Infact the way i see it, some of those people aren't competing with me for +3 tomes anymore, GREAT!

[NaturalHazard]

Infact the way i see it, some of those people aren't competing with me for +3 tomes anymore, GREAT!

yeah but some of the more greedy ones will still roll on the bound +3 tome so they can free up the unbound one to sell.

[Thrudh]

At the end of the day I don't really see how the effect from this was worse than the dowsing rod fiasco (which i'll admit left me peeved as i refused to partake) yet it seems most of the player base deems rods ok and chests omg ban despite the outcome both ways being AH prices inflated.

Pretty much anyone who was mad at the one, was also mad at the other.

I don't know anyway who thought the rod fiasco was okay, but was mad at the chest fiasco.

Where do you get the idea that "most of the player base" was opposite of what I've seen in game and on these boards?

[Tomalon]

Didnt read the whole thread so dont know if this was said or not.

But i would rather see all +3 tomes become unbound or maybe even BTA instead of what the OP is asking for.

[Calonderial]

Didnt read the whole thread so dont know if this was said or not.

But i would rather see all +3 tomes become unbound or maybe even BTA instead of what the OP is asking for.

/signed wholeheartedly

make all BTC tomes BTA now that they carry over so we can spread the love around

[Solmage]

Change all existing and future +3s to unbound status, or at least BTA.

Change all existing exploit tomes to +3 btc.

Fixed.

[GotSomeQuestions]

Do you know of anyone with dozens of toons stocked with ill-gotten +3 tomes? Or are you just making baseless accusations based on your cognitive bias?

I don't personally know anyone who exploited the chests, but there are two or three people who spam trade chat pretty frequently with offers to sell +3 tomes. Maybe they just have a few, that they got legitimately. But I doubt it.

[MRMechMan]

I don't personally know anyone who exploited the chests, but there are two or three people who spam trade chat pretty frequently with offers to sell +3 tomes. Maybe they just have a few, that they got legitimately. But I doubt it.

I agree. It is beyond shameful. And there's no way to know who it really is because its just a level4 vet status character that whoevers acct rolled up...could be a guildy, a friend...sickening...

Someone hawking 5-6 +3 tomes in a trade channel...what did they ransack elite sins with a chest blesser and huge jewel of fortune 10x???

Oh wait, +3 tomes don't really drop in non-exploit non-raid situations.

Anyone posting multiple +3 tomes in a trade channel needs at a minimum a serious look at.

As for the OP...

/signed, if you have 2 bound +3 tomes and they now carry through TRs, I guess crunching it is the only thing to do.

I don't think there would be an issue with anyone taking +3 tomes to crunch them instead of putting them for roll...that is pretty low (but who knows...)

[ferrite]

/not signed due to the sheer number of people that exploited chests in challenges that have dozens of toons stocked up on +3 tomes. It sucks for people that have the raid reward ones but theres not much that can be done about those.

Would be funny if as punishment Turbine converted all those +3 tomes into Vacuous Grimoires, with their permanent ability drain. Each would weigh 100lbs and be stuck to their inventory slot until read.