Crafting info already gotten so far

[Cyr]

Well, isn't there a small chance of looting many DDO store items from in game chests? (Not that I've had much luck with that.)

I am fairly certain that the loot tables do not have all the store items on them.

I know that +3 Lesser Hearts, xp elixers (of the various types), astral diamonds (1) exist on the table having seen those personally, but beyond that I'm not sure...

Has anyone pulled a huge bag from a chest?

[voodoogroves]

Great thread - is there someplace that clearly describes the "how"?

[patang01]

Store item wise the pricing in crafting boosters and mats are not terrible. I can see myself using some of it. But the bags?
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Geez - for BTC no less (as usual). I wish they were BTA - after all isn't that what we're paying for?

[Backley]

Great thread - is there someplace that clearly describes the "how"?

The wiki will, after crafting actually shows up on the Lamannia test server (slated for Thursday). Right now we only have guess-work.

[salmag]

Oh my god...

This kind of fish can only be found in quest end-reward lists in the area of Sorrowdusk Isle.
This type of vessel can only be found in quest end-reward lists in the area of The Restless Isles.
This type of goblet can only be found in quest end-reward lists in the area of The Ruins of Threnal.
This kind of bottle can only be found in quest end-reward lists in the area of The Red Fens.
This type of plant can only be found in quest end-reward lists in the area of The Vale of Twilight.
This type of urn can only be found in quest end-reward lists in the area of The Orchard of the Macabre.

Anyone notice the above?

Half of these are quests that I run-once-and-done for favor, and never see again. I'd like to assume that unless people are looking for specific named items out of them, most people are the same.

Not to mention... end reward lists? Sorrowdusk and Threnal, if I remember correctly, make you do like 3-4 quests at a time for a single end reward. Even if this is a 100% guaranteed in-the-list drop... why not make it content that we actually want to do? Give me something useful from, for example, Amrath quests. Normally the best thing I see in those lists is a Major Mana Pot.

i didn't read through the entire thread, so forgive me if someone already brought this up.

I think a problem with it being in the "END-REWARDS" list is that you only get to chose one item. So let's say you want to craft a greater evil outsider bane Rapier, and have no luck pulling them (or any other GEOB weapon, for that matter). One finally drops for you (a shuriken of GEOB) as an end reward. It just so happens that in that end-reward list is also Lurinda's Ultimate remover (something else you have no luck finding).

Now you are in a quandry. Here are your choices:

a. Take the shuriken (hoping you'll pull Lurinda's someday)
b. Take Lurinda's (hoping you'll eventually pull another GEOB)
c. Roll up a drow. So you can use the Shuriken, and **** the new crafting system.

Why couldn't they just put them in "Chest Rewards?"

[Coldin]

A token chance the Devs can point to and say "see? they do drop in game!", not a viable way to actually get what you want.

For many items, that's fine. They're a nice little bonuses of mostly inconsequential items. But this mechanic would be absolutely unacceptable for core items like the Trinket or the new bags (assuming the 10,000 stack limit is relevant).

10,000 stack limit is useful for things like Dragonshard Fragments.

[dkyle]

10,000 stack limit is useful for things like Dragonshard Fragments.

Yes, but those alone are not enough to make the new bags essential. Dragonshards fragments are a pretty minor part of the game currently. We don't actually need that many for anything (we can glue them together into Dragonshards to store them efficiently). Whereas if the new crafting system epects stacks of ingredients on the order of hundreds, stacks of over 1000 will be required, and storing them without the Crafter's bag will be nearly impossible.

[Velexia]

If Turbine thinks I am going to run Threnal dozens of times so that I can craft normal items they can screw right off, seriously. That whole quest chain gives me the worst kind of headache.

Diablo III comes out in November. Don't test me.

[kernal42]

Now you are in a quandry. Here are your choices:

a. Take the shuriken (hoping you'll pull Lurinda's someday)
b. Take Lurinda's (hoping you'll eventually pull another GEOB)
c. Roll up a drow. So you can use the Shuriken, and **** the new crafting system.

Why couldn't they just put them in "Chest Rewards?"

I don't think you understand that choices between two things you want are good.

For example, my recent 20th Shroud had a +3 con tome and a +3 str tome available. Now, this was quite a quandry I had. In the end, I was pleased as punch to get the str tome. I would have been less pleased if Turbine hadn't offered me this awful choice.

-Kernal

[Valindria]

Diablo III comes out in November. Don't test me.

Source?

[DrakmireTS]

Source?

Not sure you can source something that was just made up on the fly to look financially menacing.

[safekeeper13]

If Turbine thinks I am going to run Threnal dozens of times so that I can craft normal items they can screw right off, seriously. That whole quest chain gives me the worst kind of headache.

Diablo III comes out in November. Don't test me.

There is no Diablo III release date, and Blizzard has never given one. Not even a tentative one. Not even an estimate at one. When asked about a release date, Blizzard employees give the same reply for all their games.
"When it's done." Enjoy ^_^

[safekeeper13]

So when will Greensteel blanks be in the DDO store?

Never ~

[Kinerd]

Craftable trinkets are only available in the DDO Store!

Allow me to add my siiiiiigh to this.

[Marupal]

◦Mystical Goblet
◦This relatively ordinary-looking goblet contains a hidden power that can be used in high level crafting recipes.
This type of goblet can only be found in quest end-reward lists in the area of The Ruins of Threnal.

I'm wondering if this means the ability to add on more affixes than the normal 2 (suffix and prefix), the ability to add something like metaline without removing other affixes, or placing augment slots on an item. That phrase "hidden power" makes me think it's not a requirement for regular crafting purposes.

Craftable trinkets are only available in the DDO Store!

Don't trinkets fall under the category of 'accessories'? Did somebody say that we won't be able to strip down trinkets? That would be unfortunate.

[Glenalth]

I'm wondering if this means the ability to add on more affixes than the normal 2 (suffix and prefix), the ability to add something like metaline without removing other affixes, or placing augment slots on an item. That phrase "hidden power" makes me think it's not a requirement for regular crafting purposes.

I'm hoping that it's either that or used to make weapon effects, like vampirism or absolute law, that we can't find on random drops.

[ArkoHighStar]

I'm wondering if this means the ability to add on more affixes than the normal 2 (suffix and prefix), the ability to add something like metaline without removing other affixes, or placing augment slots on an item. That phrase "hidden power" makes me think it's not a requirement for regular crafting purposes.


Don't trinkets fall under the category of 'accessories'? Did somebody say that we won't be able to strip down trinkets? That would be unfortunate.

all in game trinkets are named items so they are not considered a deconstructable item

[Marupal]

I'm hoping that it's either that or used to make weapon effects, like vampirism or absolute law, that we can't find on random drops.

Yeah, same here. It'd be nice to be able to throw some of the stuff you can only find on dragon touched armor onto somethiing like a necklace or shield.

[Marupal]

all in game trinkets are named items so they are not considered a deconstructable item

!?! Ugh, you're right. It's embarassing that I've never noticed that.

[Osma77]

Since i didn't notice it anywhere else in this thread, i'll put up something that seemed obvious to me. That does not make it right, but it seems logical (Of course, logic is a great way to be wrong with confidence).

Most likely, the end reward special items will have 2 aspects:
1: they will be harder to craft then normal, requiring a higher crafting level.
2: they will probably be named items, or otherwise special, high effect ones.

My reasoning for this, is that what you find on end chain loot tables is end chain loot. As in, items that are generally supposed to be better then you can normally find at that level. It would make sense that these specialty items are ones that, when applied to a blank, would give you some special effect that would be great for that level.

Now you may ask, if this is true, then why? Why not just make the item and save us the headace of crafting it? To which i reply, because you can put them on ANY blank.
Lets take a random example with threnal. Let's say that you really want the effects that come from http://ddowiki.com/page/Theurgic_Stave for some reason. Not sure why, but say you do. The problem is that you dont want it on a quarterstaff, you want it on a greatsword. It is useless to you on a quarterstaff, so you would have to just ignore it. You can't use it, you cant deconstruct it, ect. With these new items, they could have 2-4 special effects and you could craft them into any weapon you wanted to.