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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodrak View Post
    Red Augment Crystal of Aligned Planes:
    A glowing red gem that permits an item to bypass all alignment based damage reduction, without modifying any other properties of the item. This augment crystal's enchantment lasts for 100 hours after being slotted, after which your item reverts to the original empty augment slot.

    Red Augment Crystal of Demon's Ruin:
    A glowing red gem that permits an item to bypass good aligned and cold iron damage reduction, without modifying any other properties of the item. This augment crystal's enchantment lasts for 100 hours after being slotted, after which your item reverts to the original empty augment slot.

    Red Augment Crystal of Devil's Ruin:
    A glowing red gem that permits an item to bypass good aligned and silver damage reduction, without modifying any other properties of the item. This augment crystal's enchantment lasts for 100 hours after being slotted, after which your item reverts to the original empty augment slot.

    Red Augment Crystal of Metallic Edges:
    A glowing red gem that permits an item to bypass all metallic based damage reduction, without modifying any other properties of the item. This augment crystal's enchantment lasts for 100 hours after being slotted, after which your item reverts to the original empty augment slot.

    Red Augment Crystal of Xoriat's Ruin:
    A glowing red gem that permits an item to bypass law aligned and byeshk damage reduction, without modifying any other properties of the item. This augment crystal's enchantment lasts for 100 hours after being slotted, after which your item reverts to the original empty augment slot.
    Breaking my forum silence for this topic...

    These augement gems do something that many have asked for which are better augement gems to drop in quests. However, they fail in a bigger aspect and that is that they have a timer.

    As time limited items these are a a bad idea for the following reasons...

    A) People rarely want to grind in game for consumables. End game is all about gearing your character out to get better and better. As consumables your guy is not better from these items long term.

    B) Time limited items in DDO are rather poor ideas to begin with because they do not count time based upon time equiped in quest, but time logged. This provides disincentives to log on certain toons. This is never a good idea. Already we have XP pots messing with this dynamic on leveling toons (I know I've logged off some of mine with 20% pots going when things were slow to try and save the pot). We certainly don't need a similar mechanic at end game.

    C) To really gain benefits from these items it almost has to be assumed that players have unslotted epic items sitting around that they would use over other epic items if they had the right time limited augment. This concept might be logical if epic items were not such an incredible grind to create. It then creates a bizzare incentive not to slot your best items.

    All of this adds up to a player being stuck in a sort of limbo. They can't upgrade their cool epic items because they might want to use a temporary augment. They can't log their toons and chat with friends or their temp augments run down. They can't help their buddies bang out some favor on their main, because of augment timers.

    This will not result in a fun gaming environment.

    My simple suggestion to correct this before it becomes an issue (which it certainly will if this concept is expanded on in the future)...

    Improved Augments that drop from quests require copious amounts of epic tokens in addition to the augement itself to slot. For this added cost (having to pull them from a quest instead of just buying them outright) they can have the badly thought out time limit aspect removed from them. There will still be strong reasons to slot 'store bought' augements as they will be much easier to find and if you get an upgrade you can reslot in the upgrade without knowing that you are losing a permenantly good ability for an ability that is better but will fade away leaving you with less then you started with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenalth View Post
    As long as you can reliably collect them anyway.
    As long as someone collects them. The new augment crystals should be unbound and thus able to be freely traded (until slotted).

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    ... except that most people have thier weapons sloted already so that means theyd have to purge 30-55 token upgrades just to use those new ones for 100h

    i dont see why not make them rare drops and permanent instead of something thats gona require more mindless farming and become extremely annoying in the long run
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyr View Post
    C) To really gain benefits from these items it almost has to be assumed that players have unslotted epic items sitting around that
    A time-limited augment crystal can be OK so long as you're able to use it on an epic item that already had something permanently slotted (and without destroying the previous augment once this one expires).

    Quote Originally Posted by Eladrin View Post
    As long as someone collects them. The new augment crystals should be unbound and thus able to be freely traded (until slotted).
    Epic Kobold's New Ringleader, with +6 Red Slot Maul/Axe/Dagger, farmable within 1-5 runs. Do it nao.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelus_dead View Post
    Epic Kobold's New Ringleader, with +6 Red Slot Maul/Axe/Dagger, farmable within 1-5 runs. Do it nao.
    Bloodknuckles' Epic Loincloth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eladrin View Post
    Bloodknuckles' Epic Loincloth?
    There's no part of that sentence I didn't like.

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    I don't mind the 100H duration. That's quite a bit of game time. The fact that they are unbound means you can buy them and stock up if needed.

    This is gonna be all about the drop rate. If it's too common, then the expiration on it will just be an annoyance. If it's too rare, it may be too expensive to want to use it, or you'll have the whole "Im gonna log out til the quest is ready cuz my augment is ticking". But if it's just right...you'll be able to pay a decent sum of plat to have that DR breaker you always wanted, and those who find them but can't use them will have a nice trade item.

    I like the creative thinking going into some of this. Will be fun to see how it plays out!

    Wonder if all those who rage quit (or more accurately threatened to rage quit) over the SOS nerf will rejoice with the same level of enthusiasm? Not likely...
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    Compliments of Joecool

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    Unbound is cool. It's also a good platinum sink for high end melee folks that want to purchase them in the auction house.

    If there was a way for the timer to only be active in hostile instances, that would be even better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xTethx View Post
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    TYVM for finding this out, seems like it will be extremely nice on a Monk, however, Exceptional Wisdom +2 is also available on the Ravens Eye Goggles, and the set gives +4 to hit... I'm torn now, as to which I want to try to get. The Spot 20, Level 15 5x Haste clickie, and the 2 slots are very nice...

    however does this offset the +5 Stacking Spot, True Seeing, and +4 to hit that you gain from raven's eye... hard choice.

    Nice clicky though

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    Nice goggles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by butlerfamilywa View Post
    TYVM for finding this out, seems like it will be extremely nice on a Monk, however, Exceptional Wisdom +2 is also available on the Ravens Eye Goggles, and the set gives +4 to hit... I'm torn now, as to which I want to try to get. The Spot 20, Level 15 5x Haste clickie, and the 2 slots are very nice...

    however does this offset the +5 Stacking Spot, True Seeing, and +4 to hit that you gain from raven's eye... hard choice.

    Nice clicky though
    Raven's set takes up the trinket or gloves slot as well, so it's not nearly as worthwhile. Running the new goggles/epic spectrals gets you the +4 to hit, 3 augment slots, and +7 dex/+2 wis compared to +4 to hit, 1 slot(if using trinket)/+6 dex(if using gloves).

    Clickie is amazing, 5x of 1:30 haste, mmm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khaldan View Post
    Raven's set takes up the trinket or gloves slot as well, so it's not nearly as worthwhile. Running the new goggles/epic spectrals gets you the +4 to hit, 3 augment slots, and +7 dex/+2 wis compared to +4 to hit, 1 slot(if using trinket)/+6 dex(if using gloves).

    Clickie is amazing, 5x of 1:30 haste, mmm.
    Correct, however I was already planning on having the Claw gloves or bracers, the Sirens Belt, and the Raven's Eye Goggles, with the new trinket, giving me all 3 sets.. I'll be finishing tweaking out the build and posting it under the Monk forums in a few days.. but yeah, I'm thinking goggles and trinket, for the set bonus..

    the slots are nice, but it really depends on if you NEED those slots.. currently my build has 1 open yellow slot, with no need of the colorless (Warforged with docent of grace for dex 7)

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    Quote Originally Posted by UltraMonk2 View Post
    The Bloodstone ain't great, none of my toons use it. I very much prefer to use a Dusk Heart.

    As for Litany, I find it semi useful on my cleric. Not that great and I can certainly survive without it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by butlerfamilywa View Post
    Correct, however I was already planning on having the Claw gloves or bracers, the Sirens Belt, and the Raven's Eye Goggles, with the new trinket, giving me all 3 sets.. I'll be finishing tweaking out the build and posting it under the Monk forums in a few days.. but yeah, I'm thinking goggles and trinket, for the set bonus..

    the slots are nice, but it really depends on if you NEED those slots.. currently my build has 1 open yellow slot, with no need of the colorless (Warforged with docent of grace for dex 7)
    Well, if you're using that many sets, then it's better :P I was trying to compare ravens and spectals/chronogoggles, where the chronogoggles are probably better.

    Using 2 or more sets, and you're probably better off using the gem, though.

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    Has anyone seen any hints (shard/scroll/seal/item) of this: http://compendium.ddo.com/wiki/Weapo...Oath_of_Droaam?

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    Quote Originally Posted by esheep View Post
    Has anyone seen any hints (shard/scroll/seal/item) of this: http://compendium.ddo.com/wiki/Weapo...Oath_of_Droaam?
    No because that's the item you collect to finish the quest and aren't able to take it out of the quest....
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    Quote Originally Posted by esheep View Post
    Has anyone seen any hints (shard/scroll/seal/item) of this: http://compendium.ddo.com/wiki/Weapo...Oath_of_Droaam?
    I've seen the non-epic version plenty of times. I am never able to take it out of the quest though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Cataclysm View Post
    I've seen the non-epic version plenty of times. I am never able to take it out of the quest though.
    Doh, that's right. I thought I remembered seeing that name somewhere.

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    Dieing to see the epic boots and gloves from the set outta the new raid.

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