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    Default Reaper endgame TWF Paladin 14 Ranger 5 Monk 1

    Update 48.4 killed Caf and Caf's death had a huge impact on paladins.
    After the recent changes on Lama I built an Aasimar swf pally and ofc I felt very disappointed on live... like I said, not having Caf really hurts
    So I did a lesser reincarnation to try an Aasimar pally twf build. I think Razorclaw is by far a better option for a twf pally, but it's an very expensive build (you start as barbarian) and I already was Aasimar... with zero willpower to TR XD

    I splashed pally with ranger 5 / monk 1. The benefits are very clear: tempest t5, 100% offhand, fire stance for +1 multi on 19-20.

    Bitter Edge + Soulrazor in offhand are a great combo. I like Soulrazor a lot, and the +4 mythic bonus is icing on the cake. Also, equipping Soulrazor in offhand is amazing, because you can swap it keeping the stacks.
    Bitter Edge is overall a good weapon, they nerfed... ehm.... fixed the critical profile but still it's a solid option.
    You need Whirling Steel Strike to be centered with longswords. Knight Training comes for free from KoTC tree.

    I decided to play in Shadowdancer, a very funny (and strong) ED for questing.

    Here’s a screenshot of my stats in reaper (self buffed). I have all the PLs and all the reaper trees filled.



    Weapon stats


    Ofc I took Dual Perfection. The inventory display is still bugged showing only half attribute damage for off-hand.

    Enhancements





    Feats
    This is a feat starved build... you need Weapon Focus to grab Whirling Steel Strike, Adept and Master of Forms to grab the +1 multi. I took Precision and Epic Reflexes. I also took Two Weapon Defense: 60 MRR op! Jokes aside I'm not sure it was worth it.
    Scion of Ethereal is better dps than Arborea on this build.

    ED
    Shadowdancer is an amazing destiny for questing.



    Twist: Martial Hymn, Symmetric Strikes, Hail of Blows, Primal Scream and Dance of Flowers.

    Gear setup



    As usual, best gear is based on melee power on items you have.
    I don't like to use SL on boots because swapping SL boots suck.

    Augment sets are Brutal Blows (+4 STR) and Perfect Silence (+3d6 sneak).

    Weapons and filigrees:
    My main weapon set is Bitter Edge + Soulrazor (prowess + shattered)
    2xswap for Divine Might: weapon with full CHA filigrees + Quality +5 CHA orb, CHA artifact ring with full CHA filigree, Festive Charisma slotted and Alluring Elocution set (+4 artifact CHA).
    Sanctified Fervor swap for melee power, and full range of LGS.

    Pros:
    - Fun to play and solid DPS
    - Dance of Death!
    - A bunch of hands (7+5) to touch your party members
    - No fail evasion
    - Decent PRR, dodge + elaborate parry

    Cons:
    - Single target DPS is behind the current meta
    - In order to cap doublestrike you have to use A Thousand Cuts or Reaper's Strike
    - MRR Cap, you have to live (and swap absorb) with it

    I fear the melee era is coming to an end... so take advantage of our last chances XD

    As usual, feel free to ask for more informations.
    Last edited by Gilga1; 03-09-2021 at 09:31 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilga1 View Post
    Update 48.4 killed Caf and Caf's death had a huge impact on paladins.
    After the recent changes on Lama I built an Aasimar swf pally and ofc I felt very disappointed on live... like I said, not having Caf really hurts
    So I did a lesser reincarnation to try an Aasimar pally twf build. I think Razorclaw is by far a better option for a twf pally, but it's an very expensive build (you start as barbarian) and I already was Aasimar... with zero willpower to TR XD

    I splashed pally with ranger 5 / monk 1. The benefits are very clear: tempest t5, 100% offhand, fire stance for +1 multi on 19-20.

    Bitter Edge + Soulrazor in offhand are a great combo. I like Soulrazor a lot, and the +4 mythic bonus is icing on the cake. Also, equipping Soulrazor in offhand is amazing, because you can swap it keeping the stacks.
    Bitter Edge is overall a good weapon, they nerfed... ehm.... fixed the critical profile but still it's a solid option.
    You need Whirling Steel Strike to be centered with longswords. Knight Training comes for free from KoTC tree.

    I decided to play in Shadowdancer, a very funny (and strong) ED for questing.

    Here’s a screenshot of my stats in reaper (self buffed). I have all the PLs and all the reaper trees filled.



    Weapon stats


    Ofc I took Dual Perfection. The inventory display is still bugged showing only half attribute damage for off-hand.

    Enhancements





    Feats
    This is a feat starved build... you need Weapon Focus to grab Whirling Steel Strike, Adept and Master of Forms to grab the +1 multi. I took Precision and Epic Reflexes. I also took Two Weapon Defense: 60 MRR op! Jokes aside I'm not sure it was worth it.
    Scion of Ethereal is better dps than Arborea on this build.

    ED
    Shadowdancer is an amazing destiny for questing.



    Twist: Martial Hymn, Meld, Hail of Blows, Primal Scream and Dance of Flowers.

    Gear setup



    As usual, best gear is based on melee power on items you have.
    I don't like to use SL on boots because swapping SL boots suck.

    Augment sets are Brutal Blows (+4 STR) and Perfect Silence (+3d6 sneak).

    Weapons and filigrees:
    My main weapon set is Bitter Edge + Soulrazor (prowess + shattered)
    2xswap for Divine Might: weapon with full CHA filigrees + Quality +5 CHA orb, CHA artifact ring with full CHA filigree, Festive Charisma slotted and Alluring Elocution set (+4 artifact CHA).
    Sanctified Fervor swap for melee power, and full range of LGS.

    Pros:
    - Fun to play and solid DPS
    - Dance of Death!
    - A bunch of hands (7+5) to touch your party members
    - No fail evasion
    - Decent PRR, dodge + elaborate parry

    Cons:
    - Single target DPS is behind the current meta
    - In order to cap doublestrike you have to use A Thousand Cuts or Reaper's Strike
    - MRR Cap, you have to live (and swap absorb) with it

    I fear the melee era is coming to an end... so take advantage of our last chances XD

    As usual, feel free to ask for more informations.
    Hi Tronko. Always enjoy looking over your builds. I see you're running in Shadowdancer, but have listed meld as a twist. Is that just a typo, or is there a reason for it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkwier View Post
    Hi Tronko. Always enjoy looking over your builds. I see you're running in Shadowdancer, but have listed meld as a twist. Is that just a typo, or is there a reason for it?
    Wops, it's a typo Thanks for reporting it!
    I'll edit my post, the twist I use is Symmetric Strikes.
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    Is the freezing ice proc on the bitter edge just legendary green steel freezing ice but under a different name? Super low proc rate with a 100 dc?

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    I'd love to see that STR score broken down.

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    thanks for the inspiration and the aspiration

    once upon a time i wanted to run a 18/2 ranger monk soulrazer build

    but ill prob stick, ha, with pure monk
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kielbasa View Post
    Is the freezing ice proc on the bitter edge just legendary green steel freezing ice but under a different name? Super low proc rate with a 100 dc?
    No, it's different and the proc rate looks decent.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaboom2112 View Post
    I'd love to see that STR score broken down.
    Here you are:

    18 base
    1 bond of the fallen
    7 levels
    8 tome
    3 racial completionist
    2 heroic completionist
    3 enhancements
    21 item (Piston Boots)
    10 insight (Silver Dragonscale Capelet)
    5 quality (Legendary Bone Figurine)
    4 artifact bonus (Brutal Blows set)
    2 profane
    1 exceptional
    5 reaper stats
    5 filigrees
    2 ship
    2 yugo
    2 remnant pot
    3 Fire stance
    2 size (Ram's Might)
    4 alchemical (Tenser or Toven)
    1 Martial Hymn twist
    2 madstone rage
    5 primal (Primal Scream)
    6 psionic (Titan gloves or cookies)
    5 Divine purpose + divine resolve
    4 rage (Owlbear cookies)
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    That MRR, though. Yeesh.

    Seems to me it might be worth slotting the Nystul's filigree set.
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    Try to survive a stacked champion's DOTs with this MRR on Reaper 8+

    But besides MRR it's a nice build. Evasion with high reflex makes more than usual high AC for sure (althou you could hit ~230AC easily)
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    Capped MRR is a thing you have to live with if you are a monk, and for sure it's a vulnerability
    Nystul is certainly an option, but I prefer shattered over 40 MRR (37,5% reduction vs 50%).
    If you are grouping with capable players, you just have to be careful. Absorption helps vs some nasty casters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilga1 View Post
    Capped MRR is a thing you have to live with if you are a monk, and for sure it's a vulnerability
    Nystul is certainly an option, but I prefer shattered over 40 MRR (37,5% reduction vs 50%).
    If you are grouping with capable players, you just have to be careful. Absorption helps vs some nasty casters.
    Yes, I understand your points. And you're probably good enough and play with other players who are also good enough to mitigate the flaws of a too-low MRR toon.

    I, personally, am not good enough to mitigate those flaws. For me to be in any way comfortable, especially on a melee toon, I'd absolutely have to play with 100 MRR at least.

    I suspect that would likely be the case for most players.
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    Default Nice to see a Tempestadin

    Is fire stance [and thus 1 monk] extra DPS really worth the loss of heavier armour? 15/5 would give you Zeal ("In order to cap doublestrike you have to use A Thousand Cuts or Reaper's Strike") and a extra smite.

    I guess you get the dodge. EDIT: and evasion!

    This build reminded me of an old classic I enjoyed a few lives ago - https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...-a-Tempestadin, that was fun and I imagine this is too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gravisrs View Post
    Evasion with high reflex makes more than usual high AC for sure
    I may be being stupid, but I cant see where evasion would be coming from? < 2 monk, < 9 ranger

    EDIT: I was being stupid - shadowdancer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilga1 View Post

    Gear setup



    As usual, best gear is based on melee power on items you have.
    I don't like to use SL on boots because swapping SL boots suck.
    I'm looking at your build and it's really starting to intrigue me. I'd like to make a lesser version of it (I don't have nearly all the past lives so I'll have 12 or 13 fewer AP than you have).

    I have a couple of initial questions:

    1) Would you mind posting more details of you gear setup?

    2) I can't quite figure out what you mean by "SL boots." Can you please elaborate?

    Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkat View Post
    I have a couple of initial questions:
    1) Would you mind posting more details of you gear setup?
    2) I can't quite figure out what you mean by "SL boots." Can you please elaborate?
    Thanks.
    Hey, sure.
    Gear setup includes Family set, Radiant Ring of Taer Valaestas as artifact, Piston boots, Lionheart Ring, Titania as helm, Legendary Bone Figurine as trinket, Collective Sight with Constitution and Insightful Charisma (mostly because I have +6 mp on it). Wildwood wrists as bracers for Dexterity +21 and insightful/quality deception, SL (Slave Lords) crafted belt with deception and quality Constitution (and +6 mp...). Silver Dragonscale Capelet as cloak with Insightful Strength on it.
    I slotted an augment for Accuracy (+20) but considering DM for insightful accuracy and quality accuracy on ring, and the fact that I used Precision, I never had issues with grazing hits.

    I prefer to avoid SL (slave lords) crafted items on the boots slot because of swaps. By default, they go on the bracers slot so when you swap for clickies (ie madstone rage) you have to open your inventory and manually drag them in place. Quite annoying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilga1 View Post
    Hey, sure.
    Gear setup includes Family set, Radiant Ring of Taer Valaestas as artifact, Piston boots, Lionheart Ring, Titania as helm, Legendary Bone Figurine as trinket, Collective Sight with Constitution and Insightful Charisma (mostly because I have +6 mp on it). Wildwood wrists as bracers for Dexterity +21 and insightful/quality deception, SL (Slave Lords) crafted belt with deception and quality Constitution (and +6 mp...). Silver Dragonscale Capelet as cloak with Insightful Strength on it.
    I slotted an augment for Accuracy (+20) but considering DM for insightful accuracy and quality accuracy on ring, and the fact that I used Precision, I never had issues with grazing hits.

    I prefer to avoid SL (slave lords) crafted items on the boots slot because of swaps. By default, they go on the bracers slot so when you swap for clickies (ie madstone rage) you have to open your inventory and manually drag them in place. Quite annoying.
    Excellent.

    I was wondering what the boots were and what the Slave Lord belt was.

    Thanks again for your time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilga1 View Post
    but considering DM for insightful accuracy and quality accuracy on ring
    Another question...DM? What does that mean?

    I can't find any named ring with both Insightful and Quality accuracy on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkat View Post
    Another question...DM? What does that mean?

    I can't find any named ring with both Insightful and Quality accuracy on it.
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    Yup, Divine Might provides insightful. Quality accuracy +8 is on Radiant Ring of Taer Valaestas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilga1 View Post
    Yup, Divine Might provides insightful. Quality accuracy +8 is on Radiant Ring of Taer Valaestas.
    Gotcha.

    Thank you.
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