Reaper endgame TWF Paladin 14 Ranger 5 Monk 1

[Walls]

Update 48.4 killed Caf and Caf's death had a huge impact on paladins.
After the recent changes on Lama I built an Aasimar swf pally and ofc I felt very disappointed on live... like I said, not having Caf really hurts
So I did a lesser reincarnation to try an Aasimar pally twf build. I think Razorclaw is by far a better option for a twf pally, but it's an very expensive build (you start as barbarian) and I already was Aasimar... with zero willpower to TR XD

How exactly would you go about going razorclaw? You HAVE to level 15 before using +1, and You have to change alignment.

So hard to fit pally levels in, unless you use a +20 heart? Is this what you mean by expensive? lol

Im playing this build now, Level 4, went 1pally 3 ranger(Aasimar) , healing is an issue, but i have 93 prr, So i can just take a 2 second break, and drink 10+ pots when im soloing.

[Gilga1]

How exactly would you go about going razorclaw? You HAVE to level 15 before using +1, and You have to change alignment.
So hard to fit pally levels in, unless you use a +20 heart? Is this what you mean by expensive? lol

Yes, it's very expensive because you need a +1 heart to remove the barb level, you have to change alignment and then you have to use a +20 heart or multiple +5/+3 lesser hearts.
That said, razorclaw is an amazing choice for any twf build (magic fang, second claw, rage, howl etc).

[Alled78]

Hi Tronko!
With the change of single weapon fighting what you think about a similar build
14 paladin
5 fighter
1 monk

Single weapon fighting with t5 in kensei????

[Gilga1]

Hi Tronko!
With the change of single weapon fighting what you think about a similar build
14 paladin
5 fighter
1 monk

Single weapon fighting with t5 in kensei????

Hey, considering the incoming changes, my personal advice is to stay TWF. And if you want to invest some money in the game, Razorclaw pally/ranger will really shine.

[Stormraiser]

Hey, considering the incoming changes, my personal advice is to stay TWF. And if you want to invest some money in the game, Razorclaw pally/ranger will really shine.

Can you opine on why exactly?

[Arkat]

"Caf"?

Sorry, I don't understand the acronym (it's an acronym, right?).




Nevermind.

Confront Any Foe = CAF

Got it.

[Discpsycho]

"Caf"?

Confront Any Foe

[Valerianus]

"Caf"?

Sorry, I don't understand the acronym (it's an acronym, right?).

confront any foe, divine crusader t2

[Arkat]

Confront Any Foe

confront any foe, divine crusader t2

Yes, thank you.

[Alizar]

Hey, considering the incoming changes, my personal advice is to stay TWF. And if you want to invest some money in the game, Razorclaw pally/ranger will really shine.

Hello Master Builder Can you give us more detail on this build? No monk level? So 15/5?

Thanks!

Edit: I see Monk was for longswords so this is definitely 15/5.

[Alizar]

Also, you took consume in SD. It doesn't look like you would have the DC for this to work going strength?

[unbongwah]

Edit: I see Monk was for longswords so this is definitely 15/5.

Monk splash + Whirling Steel Strike lets you use longswords while staying centered, which for this build is for Master Fire stance: +3 STR and +1 crit multiplier on 19-20. Also +10% offhand strike from Shintao to make up for not having Tempest 18 core.

Paladin 15 / ranger 5 is actually a really old combo (e.g. my drow version). [A suuuuper-long time ago, ranger 6 / paladin 14 gave +20% attack speed.] Dropping the monk splash means losing the aforementioned DPS bonuses, but as consolation prizes you gain:

• +10% doublestrike from Zeal - actually more important now that offhand doublestrike = 1/2 mainhand doublestrike rather than being an independent bonus (as long as you haven't hit 100% DS already)
• You can wear armor meaning your MRR isn't capped at 50 (+10 from TWD, +gear). You can either pick light armor for Tempest bonuses + Evasion (if running in Primal Avatar or Shadow Dancer like OP); or medium/heavy armor for Greater defensive stance bonuses, higher PRR, and no MRR cap.
• You're no longer restricted to longswords since you won't be taking Whirling Steel Strike, so if you prefer to build for other Knight's Training weapons, go right ahead. Scourge Aasimar variant would have the option of using Destroyer of the Dead but that's pretty tight on APs.

[Gilga1]

Razorclaw 15/5 works fine because Second Claw brings your offhand attacks chance to 100%. Also, you can't use rage and fire stance at the same time.
I still think Razorclaw 15/5 is very solid, but with the recent changes 18-1-1 SWF barbs and THF barbs (for questing) are really tasty.
Also, Razorclaw pally/ranger it's very expensive.

Also, you took consume in SD. It doesn't look like you would have the DC for this to work going strength?

Despite its description, Consume has no DC, it always succeeds. Please note Consume also still procs on friendly targets wasting the tic...

[Alizar]

Razorclaw 15/5 works fine because Second Claw brings your offhand attacks chance to 100%. Also, you can't use rage and fire stance at the same time.
I still think Razorclaw 15/5 is very solid, but with the recent changes 18-1-1 SWF barbs and THF barbs (for questing) are really tasty.
Also, Razorclaw pally/ranger it's very expensive.



Despite its description, Consume has no DC, it always succeeds. Please note Consume also still procs on friendly targets wasting the tic...

Wow just Wow on Consume DC lol. Yeah I'm backing away from that split was excited for a handwrap DoD experience but not just for the synergies you noted. They allow vitstani DoD not sure why this expensive odd setup wouldn't be allowed. Its already hard to get with the huge hassle and cost.

I will however just for the fun try a pure barb razor just for fun

[unbongwah]

with the recent changes 18-1-1 SWF barbs and THF barbs (for questing) are really tasty.

Okay I'll bite:

• Why SWF? Is it just the addition of Offhand Versatility?
• Why an 18/1/1 split rather than pure barb? And what are you splashing?

[PrinceOfAsphodel]

Okay I'll bite:

• Why SWF? Is it just the addition of Offhand Versatility?
• Why an 18/1/1 split rather than pure barb? And what are you splashing?

Ok, I'm going to take a guess before Gilga1 notices. Then I'll see if I'm right. Offhand versatility and attack speed bonuses actually make SWF have better DPS than THF, but only vs a single target like a raid boss, which means THF is still king for leveling. I'm going to guess 18/1/1 wants 1 Fighter for a feat and Haste boost, and one Cleric or FVS for Divine Might/Divine Will. You can technically get Haste Boost from Vistani but you really want a trance so 1 FVS is pretty set. And since 19 Barb doesn't really get you more than 18 Barb, 1 Fighter seems pretty free. I've also seen videos from Tormaad (forget his server) hitting really good number on this build with 1 druid over 1 fighter. He says it's for Ram's Might but I always use Belt of the Ram for this kind of build so I don't know if this is super meta. I'm not the best dps player though

[Gilga1]

• Why SWF? Is it just the addition of Offhand Versatility?
• Why an 18/1/1 split rather than pure barb? And what are you splashing?

Hey! SWF is for attack speed. Druid (Ram's Might) and FVS (trance).

Ok, I'm going to take a guess before Gilga1 notices. Then I'll see if I'm right. Offhand versatility and attack speed bonuses actually make SWF have better DPS than THF, but only vs a single target like a raid boss, which means THF is still king for leveling. I'm going to guess 18/1/1 wants 1 Fighter for a feat and Haste boost, and one Cleric or FVS for Divine Might/Divine Will. You can technically get Haste Boost from Vistani but you really want a trance so 1 FVS is pretty set. And since 19 Barb doesn't really get you more than 18 Barb, 1 Fighter seems pretty free. I've also seen videos from Tormaad (forget his server) hitting really good number on this build with 1 druid over 1 fighter. He says it's for Ram's Might but I always use Belt of the Ram for this kind of build so I don't know if this is super meta. I'm not the best dps player though

Yes, Druid is for Ram's Might and, usually, there are better options than Belt of the Ram. You want full deception on that build.
18-1-1 takes Vistani capstone and FB tier 5, putting the last points on FVS trance. You can use Labrythine Edge (15-20 range and 10 mp), but a dagger works too.

[Fefnir_2011]

This is a great build, thanks for sharing. I currently have a Drow 18 Pally/ 2 Fighter I'm looking at TRing into this build once I convert my khopeshes to long swords.

I think for leveling I'll do ranger levels, then monk, then finish with paladin. I'm inferring I'll need to hit 13 dex with a +4 tome to take all the TWF feats, since Ranger 5 only grants the base feat. My physical spread will likely be 18 Str, 13 Dex, 16 Con, with five points left over to play around with.

Do you have a more detailed feat breakdown and I'm just missing it? This is the feats I'm picturing, but I've also been away from the game since 2014 and not sure how relevant Stunning Blow for example still is.

01: Stunning Blow
03: WF: Slashing
06: Knight's Training
06 (Monk): Whirling Steel Strike
09: Improved TWF
12: Greater TWF
15: IC: Slashing
18: Precision
21: Adept of Forms
24: Master of Forms
26: Perfect TWF
27: Overwhelming Critical
28: Perfect THF
29: Dire Charge
30: Epic Reflexes, Scion of Ethereal

Precision probably can be deferred until later for the monk form feats, but those are the feats I was considering taking.

[commando4290]

Any update on the gear setup that allows a TWF (Bitter Edge + Soulrazor) to squeeze every bit of DPS?

I've been doing gear tetris, and no luck so far. Just chasing my own tail.

[Gilga1]

Any update on the gear setup that allows a TWF (Bitter Edge + Soulrazor) to squeeze every bit of DPS?
I've been doing gear tetris, and no luck so far. Just chasing my own tail.

Hey! A lot of things changed since I posted this build...
If you really want to play TWF (I'd prefer THF/SWF to TWF), I think pally 14-15 / ranger 5 is still a good option.

Regarding gear... basically you have to slot the Red Dragon armor for dripping with magma. Sadly, that's a must for every melee dps build, so you can't equip Family or any armor set anymore. Fix-nerf soon? Idk...
Other 'must have' items are usually the Ring of Prowess (deadly, accuracy and up to 14 mp if you get a top-end version) and the Crown of Summer helms.
The Perfect Charged Gauntlets are still bugged, so better wait for the fix to check the Sovereign Lightning Strike damage... Best artifact option probably, but we don't know yet.
You can use Summer or augment sets to complete the rest of your gear.
Swords changed too, because keen is not relevant anymore. Fellblade is an option.