Champs nerfed??

[Kebtid]

Is the champion spawn rate on reaper nerf intended?

// Seems its not just reaper but overall champion appearance on any difficulty that has champions (based on reports from other players here)



Little update based on personal opinion and ingame experience

Its very weird, this is just a theory from yesterday observations but it seems that monsters that are inside the quest /prespawned/ cant turn into champs, and those that are triggerd by some mechanics to spawn while xxx happens can indeed be champs.
Guildie did full ghold heroic saga on r3 yesterday and reported 1 champion only. I did that myself today and only champ i got was at cry where a split jarilith turned into a stone guard champion.
I did level 10-12 content and noticed that sometimes i get and sometimes i dont, i went with the "spawn when xx triggers" as that seemed very possible.

Just a theory, could be entirely false and probably is


Further update.

Leveld to 20, trd, and was paying attention to behavior of enemies.
Assumption seems to be mostly correct with the prespawn theory.
So far only enemies that spawn after some mechanics is triggerd have a chance to spawn as champions.

/example killing a ooze triggers its split mechanic and the split oozes can be champions, glass spiders that lay eggs can turn their offsprings into champions, undead that spawn from coffins or are "raised" when xx happens. Etc etc

[KoobTheProud]

I saw one champ last night in LOD in a complete run on Heroic Elite. However I was two levels above the Elite quest level and maybe that scales the champs involved? I was just running it to test out Darkfire on my FvS.

[Memnir]

I've also noticed a lot less Champs on Elite as I kicked the tires on a new character yesterday in the Harbor. A lot less.

I hope it wasn't intentional - because it kinda sucks. Sad to hear it is also happening in Reaper.

[Lonnbeimnech]

I've noticed less reapers too.

[cdbd3rd]

Hm. Thought it was just a fluke seeing so few on my last couple Irestone runs. What I did think was odd was when mini-bosses like Dinks and Scartongue were champed and not even dropping rems, let alone spawning a chest. [Level 5 char, running quest at H(5) & E(6)]

[Qezuzu]

I ran an r4 Memoirs of Illusory Larcener and, if I'm not mistaken we did not get a single champ whatsoever, and only one reaper.

I later ran Catacombs on a different toon and the champ/reaper rate seemed to be normal.

[RoberttheBard]

We noticed a lack of champs in HE Black and Blue yesterday, but got lots of champs in E Tears, and even paired up on Reapers at least once that I remember off the top of my head.

[vryxnr]

Ran a few quests with a non-elite-ready character on epic hard (slave lords chain, tavern brawl, etc) and was worried I accidentally hit normal instead of hard, as there we no champs. Finally the orange umber hulks were champs, but no chests.

[Cocomajobo]

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Weird. To my knowledge, champion rates were not intentionally altered.

[Simard]

Starting the new hamsTR wheel cycle and running some quests with lots of spawns like Gwylans and no champs. It hasn't been a complete dearth but they seem to be much much less frequent.

[Simard]

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Weird. To my knowledge, champion rates were not intentionally altered.

Thanks.

[Holleyz]

I noticed this last night and took advantage of it. I think I played the longest I have in months. I actually gamed for about 8 hours yesterday evening way into early this morning. Personally I feel champions should be in reaper 1-10 not in norm-elite but thats my opinion.

[tafla421]

maybe they will fix the tier 2 + 3 champs spawning in hard and tier 3s in elite when they readjust the spawn rates

[FranOhmsford]

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Weird. To my knowledge, champion rates were not intentionally altered.

Pity!

Personally I feel champions should be in reaper 1-10 not in norm-elite but thats my opinion.

Ditto!

[Qhualor]

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Weird. To my knowledge, champion rates were not intentionally altered.

feel free to boost Champion rates by an additional 10% than normal

[goodspeed]

Starting the new hamsTR wheel cycle and running some quests with lots of spawns like Gwylans and no champs. It hasn't been a complete dearth but they seem to be much much less frequent.

I had champs all over the flippn place in rescue. And they were fast as hell like they all got into the white powder stash and inhaled deep. We're talking a a 20 barb with sprint boost fast.

[Niminae]

Here's a small sample size to add to the data points: R1 Epic Bargain of Blood. Zero champions, 1 reaper. That's across about 3/4 of the dungeon as I did not have the mana to be able to do the free the prisoners optional. So I guess it's possible all the champs were waiting there for me, but I never showed up. :-P

[Bonulino]

I have had similar experiences the last couple of days. I ran the first 2 Waterworks quests on regular elite, and not a single champion. I also ran the second 2 of the Tangleroot quests on regular elite, and not a single champion.

[Aelonwy]

Funny, I ran the two new quests on heroic elite and Delera's chain on heroic elite today and there were plenty of champions.

[Aelonwy]

I had champs all over the flippn place in rescue. And they were fast as hell like they all got into the white powder stash and inhaled deep. We're talking a a 20 barb with sprint boost fast.

I ran EH Outbreak yesterday and everything in there was running for me (Sorc) as soon as my son (Arty) opened the first door, at Ludicrous Speed. Straight to plaid. Hitting like they were on steroids. We died in under 30 seconds. Released, tried again and everything was behaving as expected the second time. Shrugged it off but I've seen some weird quest/mob behavior over the years.