Champs nerfed??

[Redgob]

Similar experience here. I started new life and after doing quests level 2-4 on r4 I only had 2 champions (no champs on level 2 is normal but on 3-4 is new). I even thought that maybe the quests 2-4 are now treated as below level 5 so no champions at all but 1 named scorpion spawned as champion and after splitting an ooze, 1 part was a champion too. Reapers were spawning normally, I killed a ton of them.

[Astoroth]

They should just roll with it. Call it champion free bonus week. And add it to the normal bonus rotation. Why just have champion drop weekends, it just caters to people that like them. They need a champion off bonus to balance things out for people that don't like them.

[Revolted]

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Weird. To my knowledge, champion rates were not intentionally altered.

I subscribe to the OP, did a couple runs of Memoirs in LE and not a single champ, last night did a High Road chain on R1 and got a total of 2. Been seeing this problem all over the game the last couple of days. Which is a shame, I want some remnants!

[Saekee]

Yesterday did Lords of Dust EE solo on my main at level 21. I think I ran into one champ--a skelle at the end (who was responsible for my one death there--I got careless).

I hope to get on today so will keep an eye out.

[Kebtid]

Its very weird, this is just a theory from yesterday observations but it seems that monsters that are inside the quest /prespawned/ cant turn into champs, and those that are triggers by some mechanics to spawn while xxx happens can indeed be champs.
Guildie did full ghold heroic saga on r3 yesterday and reported 1 champion only.
I did level 10-12 content and noticed that sometimes i get and sometimes i dont, i went with the "spawn when xx triggers" as that seemed very possible.

Just a theory, could be entirely false and probably is

[azrael4h]

I noticed a lack of champions as well. Ran 'Newcomers' yesterday on HE, with a guildy joining half-way. Noticed not one champ spawned. Very few spawned in 5 quests ran in the normal friday run, before I left for the night.

[KoobTheProud]

I've had no mysterious remnant drops at all since U35 went live. This would be a significant change if it's actually the new reality and somebody from SSG should comment on the change since it was not listed in the U35 release notes.

[Kylstrem]

Ran all 3 parts of STK on reaper 1 last night and only got one champ in all three quests, one of the elementals in end fight of part 3

Ran all 4 parts of Depths series this morning on reaper 1, only 1 champ in all 4 parts.

[yorukari]

yesterday evening I ran Devil Assault on hard, and Trial By Fire on elite. No champions appeared in either quest.

[Chi_Ryu]

Same here, I TRd the night before U35, and have barely seen any champs running Reaper 2-3 solo for base level 3 and 4 quests.. The most telling was not seeing a single one spawn in Kobold Assault (usually I-d get 5-10... I had about 5-10 reapers, but no champions). I've seen a few running the Catacombs quests, but nowhere near as many as usual.

Not so good for the Mysterious Remnant rate

[Talon_Moonshadow]

Did several EE quests today, with zero champs.

[bracelet]

I noticed this last night and took advantage of it. I think I played the longest I have in months. I actually gamed for about 8 hours yesterday evening way into early this morning. Personally I feel champions should be in reaper 1-10 not in norm-elite but thats my opinion.

I am loving this. I played until 3 AM last night. It feels like the game I used to play. I had just started running EEs when they introduced champs and it forced me to back down to EH. It turns out that EH and EN are far faster ways to advance, but I missed doing EEs. I am going to be on a lot until they stick it to us again.

[Saekee]

Its very weird, this is just a theory from yesterday observations but it seems that monsters that are inside the quest /prespawned/ cant turn into champs, and those that are triggers by some mechanics to spawn while xxx happens can indeed be champs.
Guildie did full ghold heroic saga on r3 yesterday and reported 1 champion only.
I did level 10-12 content and noticed that sometimes i get and sometimes i dont, i went with the "spawn when xx triggers" as that seemed very possible.

Just a theory, could be entirely false and probably is

this is really sharp! I ran EE Unquiet Graves & Lost thread. I had the zombies and villagers spawn as champs & they are post-entry spawns. This concords with my experience in LoD too with the end skeletons as the only champs

[cdbd3rd]

...Personally I feel champions should be in reaper 1-10 not in [hard]-elite but thats my opinion.

*minor fix for accuracy. No champs in "norm".*

Ditto!

We're digressing here, but I have to politely disagree with that^.

[cpw_acc]

I should have paid more attention to exactly what quests I was doing the other day and what difficulty (though they were definitely Elite or Reaper 1 skull). But I remember thinking "where have all the champions gone?

Only had about 1 or 2 champion in all three quests (I think the quests were Black and Blue, Memoirs and Acid Wit).

[Aelonwy]

Ran Delera's Chain on HE back-to-back twice today with my son, (trying to get most of his characters a voice before his VIP runs out), first time in all 4 quests got 26 champs, 2nd run through we got 27. While we did get champions that does seem incredibly low for 4 quests with huge amounts of mobs.

[Kebtid]

Ran Delera's Chain on HE back-to-back twice today with my son, (trying to get most of his characters a voice before his VIP runs out), first time in all 4 quests got 26 champs, 2nd run through we got 27. While we did get champions that does seem incredibly low for 4 quests with huge amounts of mobs.

Deleras chain has the exact issue i assumed.
Mobs are not pre spawned but spawn at time of breaking coffins.
That way they can spawn as champions

[Mr_Helmet]

. . hamsTR . . .

Oh, that is SO becoming a Meme . . .

[FranOhmsford]

*minor fix for accuracy. No champs in "norm".*



We're digressing here, but I have to politely disagree with that^.

1) Digressing how?

2) What exactly are you disagreeing with?
I stated "ditto", one word that basically means I agree with what the other person said.
Now you haven't disagreed with the other person although you did correct their wording {tbf you still missed out Casual} so why would you disagree with me - UNLESS you were simply making a personal attack? Well?

[Vhayre]

Noticed the lack of champions as well, and the few that I did run into were all in the same place for some reason. They were in the first drow encounter in Servants of the Overlord.

In my experience the amount of reapers hasn't decreased, though when running Shadow of a Doubt on reaper today every single spawn of shadows came with exactly one reaper to accompany them.