Forum Pool on the next DDO producer

[Hobgoblin]

Look we're all participating in a forum about something trivial, when you pretend you are not doing that, and that your time is somehow important, so you can passive aggressively insinuate insulting things about me; whats that say about you? This was a light hearted thread poking fun at the the past of DDO (producer merrygo round) along with an thinly veiled (basically unveiled) attempt to goad Sev to post due to curiosity about what happened to our current producer. If you don't feel this is worth your time or is not serious enough for you just move along, that's what people who ACTUALLY don't care would have done.

exactly!


i think it was voltaire "i may not like what you have to say, but i will defend to the death your right to say it."


i think it was the passive aggressive attempt from full bleed to be condescending that got me to post lol.

[Assassination]

A post of reassurance from you or other devs would go a long way to bandaging the open wound that is the server move. Right now all we have to go on is how the lotro move went - which doesn't bode well for ddo.

This! Those of us who have read about the Lotro experience, on there public forum, know that they are still having serious issues 2 months after the move!!!

[Holymunchkin]

Not trying to tell you how to do your job BUT I think you (all) should be much more vocal about the data center move. The game is dying - I already know of several people who have canceled subs / quit. You guys need to do damage control quick and get the servers fixed. A post of reassurance from you or other devs would go a long way to bandaging the open wound that is the server move. Right now all we have to go on is how the lotro move went - which doesn't bode well for ddo. I'm hanging in here for now...waiting a few more days but that's all. I need you guys to throw me a bone - some info at the VERY least. Most of us have been loyal customers for 8-10 years... that's a long time.

+1

[Captain_Wizbang]

Wait, give me time and I can come up with a snarky addition to this thread. I am coming up blank at the moment.

Sev~

As the executive producer, you don't have to think about it. Just let it fly, throw caution to the wind.
And in the event of an epic fail, you can blame it on your staff, or better yet, say your post was ninja'd as a practical office prank.

I say keep you as EP, you're doing a great job, *but I'm kind of biased, I'm still reeling from Fernando (Tarrant) era* OMG

[mikarddo]

WB I'm glad we could goad you into posting... naturally enough when producers go silent in DDO it tends to mean they finished their cup of coffee on the DDO side of the cubicles.

My bid is still in. Just because Sev decided to finally post after having ignored the entire 10th doesnt mean we wont have a new Producer soon... Now, if he were to actually post something real - say about the lag caused by the data center move...

[knobaroo]

Not trying to tell you how to do your job BUT I think you (all) should be much more vocal about the data center move. The game is dying - I already know of several people who have canceled subs / quit. You guys need to do damage control quick and get the servers fixed. A post of reassurance from you or other devs would go a long way to bandaging the open wound that is the server move. Right now all we have to go on is how the lotro move went - which doesn't bode well for ddo. I'm hanging in here for now...waiting a few more days but that's all. I need you guys to throw me a bone - some info at the VERY least. Most of us have been loyal customers for 8-10 years... that's a long time.

This!.
You really don't need feedback. Join/create a raid and you will understand that these are not isolated instances. raids are simply unplayable. Press any button, make any action (switching from weapon to raise dead scroll to revive lag dead party and see for yourselves.
I invite any dev to come join us on Thelanis for a fun filled night of raiding.

[Blivit]

You could go with "Reports of my death are greatly exaggerated." But that's old school. Something from Dead Pool (given that this thread is the online equivalent to a dead pool) would be more contemporaneous.

Contemporaneous? The Dead Pool was so 1988 ;-P Sorry if I can't remember any quotes from that one. I haven't seen it in almost 30 years ;-P

[Memnir]

A pool, you say...

[Mindos]

You could go with "Reports of my death are greatly exaggerated." But that's old school. Something from Dead Pool (given that this thread is the online equivalent to a dead pool) would be more contemporaneous.

Captain Severlin?

[cave_diver]

I admit I have been quiet and somewhat consumed with the anniversary and data move stuff. We are currently discussing Kensai changes with the Player's Council.

Sev~

How about a producers letter with a peak of what is going to happen in the next 9 months, and not a recap of what you did.

[Beethoven]

Look we're all participating in a forum about something trivial, when you pretend you are not doing that, and that your time is somehow important, so you can passive aggressively insinuate insulting things about me; whats that say about you?

What does it say about him? I am not trying to goad or bait you into an argument or something. Seeing how many of your own eight thousand posts are spent doing exactly that: passive aggressively insinuating things about other people, you have me honestly and genuinely curious what you think that behavior says about a person.

[Zebedar]

Wait, give me time and I can come up with a snarky addition to this thread. I am coming up blank at the moment.

Sev~

Great you're posting again, glad to have you back. Now would you please address the issue of 'throwing expertise' I.E. making versions of shuriken expertise for other throwing weapons?

[HastyPudding]

I admit I have been quiet and somewhat consumed with the anniversary and data move stuff. We are currently discussing Kensai changes with the Player's Council.

Sev~

Might it not be prudent to say, in basic terms, what the council is talking about? I mean, in terms of the topic of discussion in a sort of "This week, the council is discussing XXX and XXX. That is all, carry on." sort of way. There's no information leaked, the general populace knows what's going on and it gets their creative juices going which can help influence and inspire both the council and developers. It's almost like a public opinion/councilman/senator sort of thing on CNN.

[RoberttheBard]

Might it not be prudent to say, in basic terms, what the council is talking about? I mean, in terms of the topic of discussion in a sort of "This week, the council is discussing XXX and XXX. That is all, carry on." sort of way. There's no information leaked, the general populace knows what's going on and it gets their creative juices going which can help influence and inspire both the council and developers. It's almost like a public opinion/councilman/senator sort of thing on CNN.

Take a look at what happened with the posts Sev did make, and ask yourself, what would the end result be of this action. In case your imagination isn't vivid enough for this scenario, allow me to paint you a picture:

Every single post would be dissected and twisted to mean whatever a specific poster wanted him to have said, instead of what he actually said. This will be rapidly, and quite probably rabidly followed by taking things out of context to further fuel whatever it is the poster wanted to be "known", no matter what was said.

But Rob, are you a psychic? How could you possibly know this would happen? It's quite simple, I've seen it happen hundreds of times before, on many different game forums. In this thread alone there was already at least one ultimatum post, with the appropriate amount of hyperbole thrown in. I'm frankly surprised that devs on any game's forums post any more, after the BW fiasco of death threats over an off the cuff remark about an option to turn off combat in RPGS, if a player wanted it.

[Grace_ana]

Wait, give me time and I can come up with a snarky addition to this thread. I am coming up blank at the moment.

Sev~

Wit lag.

[Elsbet]

Wit lag.

Moved his sense of humor to a new data center, eh?

[IronClan]

This!.
You really don't need feedback. Join/create a raid and you will understand that these are not isolated instances. raids are simply unplayable. Press any button, make any action (switching from weapon to raise dead scroll to revive lag dead party and see for yourselves.
I invite any dev to come join us on Thelanis for a fun filled night of raiding.

I agree this is whats needed for them to overcome the idea that this is isolated or unusual problems.

[Cleanincubus]

I admit I have been quiet and somewhat consumed with the anniversary and data move stuff. We are currently discussing Kensai changes with the Player's Council.

Sev~

So U31 will be called "Rise of the Kensai", and there will be no other content? I suppose it shouldn't be too surprising since we've gotten 2 Updates in the past year, that were nothing more than either a new Class or Race. Seems like that is the next logical progression.

In all seriousness though. I would assume new content would sell more, if customers are told information about it sooner, over them only finding out details a few weeks before release, on Lamannia. Has Turbine done research on this, and found differently? Is that why we've been kept in the dark so much, for every release, for the past year (and apparently more extensively in the coming year with "quarterly" Producers Letters)?

We see the writing on the wall, we're not stupid. Every Producer/Director is the same. They get quieter as they go along, and then *poof* a new Producer/Director pops up in the Letter.

So thank you for all you've done for the game Sir. Thank you for taking extra time to get extra stuff done, like the crossbow animations and getting the character copy fixed immediately, when we were told not to expect it to work again in the near future.

[IronClan]

What does it say about him? I am not trying to goad or bait you into an argument or something. Seeing how many of your own eight thousand posts are spent doing exactly that: passive aggressively insinuating things about other people, you have me honestly and genuinely curious what you think that behavior says about a person.

Bah it says humorless pretensions since you asked.

[Full_Bleed]

Look we're all participating in a forum about something trivial, when you pretend you are not doing that, and that your time is somehow important, so you can passive aggressively insinuate insulting things about me; whats that say about you? This was a light hearted thread poking fun at the the past of DDO (producer merrygo round) along with an thinly veiled (basically unveiled) attempt to goad Sev to post due to curiosity about what happened to our current producer. If you don't feel this is worth your time or is not serious enough for you just move along, that's what people who ACTUALLY don't care would have done.

Nothing passive aggressive about what I asked at all.

I genuinely wonder how turning someone's potential misfortune into a forum game and leading people to believe that DDO might be imminently switching producers again is considered "light-hearted fun". I know the devs are open-season on these forums, especially with Lagapoloza '16 underway, but if anything is passive aggressive it would be the insinuation that because one of them isn't participating on the forums that they are out job hunting or packing up their locker.

Sure, you managed to goad Sev into responding (I think there is a word for that) but you didn't exactly get the substantive response you were hoping to get from him did you? He obviously felt like he needed to say something (probably to quell the rumor of his demise)... but it's not what most of us actually want to hear from him (i.e. "What's up with the new sources of lag?" or "When are we getting a producer letter?"-- of which there are already threads for those topics that he could be responding to.)