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    Default precision broken?

    i have feat 3 of my toons, when i turn it off or on i see no difference to hit bonus, i even closed and reopened sheet, but there is absolutly no difference, so probly fort pypass is broken to?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nolifer1 View Post
    i have feat 3 of my toons, when i turn it off or on i see no difference to hit bonus, i even closed and reopened sheet, but there is absolutly no difference, so probly fort pypass is broken to?
    Well, Precision doesn't affect your attack bonus, it gives a +5% chance to hit. Attack bonus is used in a formula to determine your % chance to hit, and then Precision adds on to that.

    From http://ddowiki.com/page/Armor_Class:

    Player's chance to hit: (Player's Attack Bonus + 10.5) / (Target's Armor Class * 2) + 20% proficiency bonus, rounded to nearest 5%
    So Precision's 5% bonus would get added in there along with the 20% proficiency bonus. The final computed % chance to hit won't exceed 95%, to maintain a 5% chance to miss.

    In short the only way to verify at Precision is working is to conduct combat tests and tally your hit rate over a large number of trials with and without Precision.

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    Precision also states it doesn't worked when raged, so make sure no one is casting rage on you.

    Does anyone know if Relentless Fury from Legendary Executioner's Helm counts as being raged?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrudh View Post
    Precision also states it doesn't worked when raged, so make sure no one is casting rage on you.

    Does anyone know if Relentless Fury from Legendary Executioner's Helm counts as being raged?
    Good question, what about Primal Scream?

    I'm pretty sure it's just barbarian rage, can a Dev comment please?

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    Offensive Combat Stance: While using Precision mode, you gain +5% to hit and reduce the target's fortification against your attacks by 25%.
    Cannot be used while raged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaboom2112 View Post
    Good question, what about Primal Scream?

    I'm pretty sure it's just barbarian rage, can a Dev comment please?

    Description

    Offensive Combat Stance: While using Precision mode, you gain +5% to hit and reduce the target's fortification against your attacks by 25%.
    Cannot be used while raged.
    Anyone know? Devs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrudh View Post
    Precision also states it doesn't worked when raged, so make sure no one is casting rage on you.

    Does anyone know if Relentless Fury from Legendary Executioner's Helm counts as being raged?
    My rogue's precision stance stays on when he uses a rage potion, when the spell or primal scream is cast on him, and when relentless fury from the helm procs.

    Switching it on and off doesn't seem to affect the visible to hit bonus on the inventory tab or combat rolls. I think that is by design, not because it isn't working.

    Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nolifer1 View Post
    i have feat 3 of my toons, when i turn it off or on i see no difference to hit bonus, i even closed and reopened sheet, but there is absolutly no difference, so probly fort pypass is broken to?
    Fort bypass is definitely working, as Precision is allowing me to score critical hits on undead monsters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blerkington View Post
    Switching it on and off doesn't seem to affect the visible to hit bonus on the inventory tab or combat rolls. I think that is by design, not because it isn't working.
    Correct.

    Precision doesn't technically add to your attack bonus; it's a flat bonus on the other side of the equation:

    To-Hit Chance = (AttackBonus + 10.5) / (EnemyAC * 2) + 20% proficiency + 5% precision

    Because of this, it's not mathematically possible to reflect the precision bonus in the to-hit numbers on your weapon display in inventory. You can solve the equation for how much AttackBonus the +5% precision bonus works out to, but that value changes (drastically) depending on what AC you're attacking.

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