Collectable drop rate

[Bonulino]

Developers, PLEASE, increase the drop rate for T4 Cultural collectables!!! I just spent 3 hours farming the first section of Lords of Dust over and over again to get the 5 Polished Ores I need to make a Dexterity shard for an equipment upgrade on one of my toons. Multiply that by the 5 toons I have and the number of required equipment upgrades for each as they level, and the process becomes practically sadistic.

[Jasparion]

Developers, PLEASE, increase the drop rate for T4 Cultural collectables!!! I just spent 3 hours farming the first section of Lords of Dust over and over again to get the 5 Polished Ores I need to make a Dexterity shard for an equipment upgrade on one of my toons. Multiply that by the 5 toons I have and the number of required equipment upgrades for each as they level, and the process becomes practically sadistic.

Your 3 hours to get the items needed to craft something vs the minimum 40 runs I did of Raven at the Door to get the Bracers.

Sometimes it takes a while to get the gear you want. Im okay with it. Though maybe 20 runs would have been better...

BTW: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...em-Efficiently

This comment may be handy:
Something else I just noticed is that heroic wheloon (slayers) is giving T4 collectables even though it says it's a level 15 wilderness area when you enter. I'd expect that it's a typo and that heroic wheloon is really L16, since the quests there are all base level 16, but epic wheloon is dropping T5 collectables, so who knows? You can get 14 adventurer packs in just a few minutes, so it's a pretty good farm, especially for T4/5 cultural.

Another option to try is TOEE on Elite and killing Gargoyles (from the final page of that link above).

[Qhualor]

I farm Baudry's first quest for Research Notebooks almost daily and I know Khyber Prayer Pamphlets are not uncommon. one time I farmed that cabinet about 35 times for 15 Research Notebooks and ended up with about 13 Pamphlets and few of each of that purple prophecy collectables and small Eberrons. I've looted around 75 smalls from that cabinet in the past few months. the ratio seems to be about 15 notebooks to 6 pamphlets for me. its not uncommon for me to do 25-30 runs each day. the fewest runs I ever did was 16.

I actually got a Polished Ore tonight running the first quest in the last part of the Threnal chain, the level 9 quests, killing a Gargoyle at the beginning of the quest. my reaction was, "unicorn"! didn't realize LOD drop Polished Ore. guess I need to check that one out now.

[Jasparion]

I farm Baudry's first quest for Research Notebooks almost daily and I know Khyber Prayer Pamphlets are not uncommon. one time I farmed that cabinet about 35 times for 15 Research Notebooks and ended up with about 13 Pamphlets and few of each of that purple prophecy collectables and small Eberrons. I've looted around 75 smalls from that cabinet in the past few months. the ratio seems to be about 15 notebooks to 6 pamphlets for me. its not uncommon for me to do 25-30 runs each day. the fewest runs I ever did was 16.

I actually got a Polished Ore tonight running the first quest in the last part of the Threnal chain, the level 9 quests, killing a Gargoyle at the beginning of the quest. my reaction was, "unicorn"! didn't realize LOD drop Polished Ore. guess I need to check that one out now.

I need to check out how many Polished Ore I have and maybe start listing them on the AS !

[EllisDee37]

Lords of Dust is a poor farm for polished ore. Switch to Wheloon Prison backpack runs instead.

[Jasparion]

Lords of Dust is a poor farm for polished ore. Switch to Wheloon Prison backpack runs instead.

I think about listing my T4 Culturals for $$$ Profit and within the hour someone comes along and destroys my devious plan !

[Spadedragon]

Developers, PLEASE, increase the drop rate for T4 Cultural collectables!!! I just spent 3 hours farming the first section of Lords of Dust over and over again to get the 5 Polished Ores I need to make a Dexterity shard for an equipment upgrade on one of my toons. Multiply that by the 5 toons I have and the number of required equipment upgrades for each as they level, and the process becomes practically sadistic.

I agree, rare drops rates on collectables needs to be increased.

[mikarddo]

If everything was instant gratification nothing would be rare. I certainly cannot craft everything I want right when I want to - but I dont think it would be good for the game if I could, so thats fine. Either farm or wait till you have the parts through playing normally.

[EllisDee37]

I think about listing my T4 Culturals for $$$ Profit and within the hour someone comes along and destroys my devious plan !

It takes 5 solid minutes (fully 300 seconds) to farm up a single polished ore, so they're still super valuable.

(By my calculations, 1 polished ore is worth 750 cannith essences.)

[Darius1680]

If everything was instant gratification nothing would be rare. I certainly cannot craft everything I want right when I want to - but I dont think it would be good for the game if I could, so thats fine. Either farm or wait till you have the parts through playing normally.

No one is expecting instant gratification. However farming rare ingredients can take a massive amount of time. When farming rare ingredients takes longer than farming a rare named drop then something is wrong.

[EllisDee37]

No one is expecting instant gratification. However farming rare ingredients can take a massive amount of time. When farming rare ingredients takes longer than farming a rare named drop then something is wrong.

Well, you don't need rare ingredients unless you're crafting unbound. In that case, I agree that unbound crafting is a dead system.

If you mean uncommon, the longest uncommon farm is 7:30 for Tier 3 Lore. Meaning if you need 5 Silver Flame Hymnals, you're looking at 37:30. I'm skeptical you can get a rare named drop in 37 minutes.

[Spadedragon]

Well, you don't need rare ingredients unless you're crafting unbound. In that case, I agree that unbound crafting is a dead system.

If you mean uncommon, the longest uncommon farm is 7:30 for Tier 3 Lore. Meaning if you need 5 Silver Flame Hymnals, you're looking at 37:30. I'm skeptical you can get a rare named drop in 37 minutes.

Unbound crafting is definitely a dead system. If I had to provide the mats for a high level unbound insightful item, I would have to charge 1,0000 shards for it to justify the cost and time it took to get the mats. That's a shame considering most named items with more power would sell for much less.

Also you can't compare the farming time of uncommon ingredients with rare ingredients. There's a huge difference in farming time.

[mikarddo]

No one is expecting instant gratification. However farming rare ingredients can take a massive amount of time. When farming rare ingredients takes longer than farming a rare named drop then something is wrong.

I dont see that anywhere though. Please be specific. Which rare ings are you farming thats taking you 20+ hours (massive amount) for a single (bta) item?

[Ulfo]

unbound crafting is a dead system.

When your unbound crafted stuff will be buyout from ASAH for 1500 AS, you will think different. 8)

[Captain_Wizbang]

NO.

Drop rates are fine, just because it takes longer for getting X to make Y doesnt validate the request.

Sorry OP, can't get onboard w/ this.

[changelingamuck]

I don't think that tweaking the specific drop rates of individual collectibles is an efficient answer to the problem.

I've always been for adding an NPC collector who would trade you a particular collectible when you give them X number of collectibles of the same type and rarity.
That would mean you would be giving up more collectibles and, in return, receive a specific collectible.

I suspect that some players don't like suggestions for removing some of the egregious, mind-numbing farming from the system because they have more of an abundance of free time on their hands and they benefit from the current system by exchanging some of their abundance of free time by farming out certain collectibles that they can then price-gouge other players for on the shard exchange...

Other than that, I don't see how having the eye-bleeding tedium of 'Enter Quest, Run to Collectible Node, Click, Recall, Reset, Rinse and Repeat many, many times' adds any 'fun value' to the all-level, fundamental crafting system of this game.

[Bonulino]

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BTW:

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...em-Efficiently
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I am well aware of this thread and I consult it whenever I am farming. That is how I got the idea to try Lords of Dust to farm the Polished Ores. The 3 Adventurers' Packs come early in the quest, so you don't have to run very far into it to get the chances at drops of T4 Cultural Collectables. The problem, as the thread points out, is that, unlike other level Cultural collectables, there are no specific monsters that drop treasure bags bearing T4 Cultural collectables. So, you end up farming rubbish piles and adventurers' packs. Because those nodes can drop any T4 collectable, the chance for pulling Cultural ones goes way down. I know in the past I have gotten Chipped Bone Talisman's and Ivory Scorpion Icons (both T4 Cultural) from Gargoyle treasure bags. However, I have never gotten Polished Ores from Gargoyle treasure bags.

I would also point out that none of the collectables I am after are the rare ones. Since I only craft for myself, I only need common and uncommon ones. I don't complain about the drops of rares, because I expect them to be rare. Also, except for the collectables I get hundreds of, I don't sell them. The ones I do sell are for small amounts of plat, so that people who actually want to craft can afford them.

I really don't think this is a hard problem to solve. Just designate a specific monster whose treasure bags drop T4 Cultural collectables. If someone who actually spends time farming for these things has a better suggestion for where to farm them, I would appreciate hearing about it.

[Matuse]

I'm so glad I spent years stacking up collectables. 140 polished ore sitting in a bag

[Miow]

What server are you on?

[mikarddo]

Other than that, I don't see how having the eye-bleeding tedium of 'Enter Quest, Run to Collectible Node, Click, Recall, Reset, Rinse and Repeat many, many times' adds any 'fun value' to the all-level, fundamental crafting system of this game.

If its not fun for you then dont do it. Just play the game in a fun way and eventually you will have the ings needed. The rinse-repeat strategy fortunately is not the only way to get those ings - unless you want them NOW aka instant gratification.

Personally, I play a mix. I farm some and when it gets too boring I make do with what I have. I havent sold a single ing nor do I expect to.