An updated path from 1-20 (non reaper; mostly)

[Selvera]

It is fun fiddling around with the game and I fully recommend it to new players. I also like the challenge of reaper (although some I know do not agree). But for a life or two I'd like to try a bit more of a max-xp run then I've been doing so far, especially since I used to be about 85 past-lives behind the vets, and now I'm closer to 100 past-lives behind. At a rate of 1-2 past-lives per month, that's more then 4 years to catch up to vets on a single character.

So I'm looking at doing a duo; I've been able to solo elite BB in heroics for 3-4 lives now, I'm hoping that he'll be able to as well. Which is good because a number of quests require splitting up. I've also been looking for an optimal route from 1-20 then TR. In the past I've worried about farming favor to get to specific favor marks, leaving quests for epic BB and more recently farming easy reaper XP quests. But this life is going to be purely about that heroic XP.

In terms of build, I'm looking at doing a dual-wielding fighter/monk using tieflings until 12, when I can switch to khopeshes and stay centered. Duo partner typically plays some build that's able to trap. I think he might be looking at a barbarian or a healing class next life (with trap skills like usual? I imagine so, knowing him).

Pretty much all lists I look up for this kind of thing are many many years out of date.
Any feedback on this list is appreciated, and I hope to update it when I see suggestions that I like.

(No XP pots, No VIP, MotU/Shadowfell XP tomes, 3rd life+ xp requirements)

Level 1: Cannith Crystal E, Storehouse Secret E+H, Heyton's Rest E, The Collaberator E
Level 2: Info is Key E, Haverdasher E, Durk's E, Butcher's E, Garrison's E, Lost Tome E
Level 3: Ringleader E, Bringing the Light E, Smuggler's Wearhouse E, Stealthy Repo E, Waterworks E, Sunken Sewer E, MIA E, STK E
Level 4: Ringleader R, Bringing the Light R, Where there's Smoke R, Captives R, Kobold Assault R, Info is Key R, Haverdasher R, Durks R, Butcher's R, Lost Tome R, Sunken Sewer R, Catacombs part 1-3 R
Level 5: Catacombs rest R, Tangleroot E, repeating part 7 (witch doctor) on H+N, Waterworks part 1-2 R
Level 6: Waterworks part 3-4 R, Irestone R, Proof is in the Poison E, Freshen the Air E, Depths chain R,
Level 7: Guard Duty R, Fire Caves (both) R, Garl's Tomb part 1 E, Prove your Worth R, 2 Toe R, Ghost of a Chance R, Small Problem E, Partycrashers E, Snitch R, Big Top R, Necro 1 E (not bloody Crypt)
Level 8: Bloody Crypt E, Scoundrel's Run R, Garl's Tomb part 2 R, Mirra's R, Haunted Library E, Redwillows E, Delaras E, The Bountyhunter E
Level 9: The Pit E, Gwylan's R+E, Tear R+E, Setinals of Stormreach chain on E (not spies), Stormcleave R, get Thunder Sea saga reward,
Level 10: Spies R+H+N, Necro 2 E (except Shadow Crypt), VoN 1-2 E
Level 11: VoN 3-4 E, Repeat VoN 3 R, Shadow Crypt R+R+E
Level 12: Tempest Spine R+E, VoN 5-6 E, Chamber of Rhamat R+E+H+N,
Level 13: OoB E, Wizking E+H+N, Chamber of Kourush E, Maraud the Mines R+E+H, Diplomatic Impunity E, Framework E, Eyes of Stone E, Assault on Summerfield E, Blockade Buster E+H, Invaders E+H, Undermine E, Seigebreaker E+H
Level 14: all Gianthold Quests E (except raid), repeat Tor on H, Gianthold saga reward
Level 15: all Gianthold Quests R (except raid), Gianthold saga reward
Level 16: Necro 4 E
Level 17: Litanny R+E+H+N, LoD Chain E, Disciples of Shar E, Escape Plan E, Shadow of a Doubt R+E,
Level 18: Wheloon (all) E, repeat Mirror H+N, Vale (outside quests) E, LoD chain H, Druid's Chain (all) E, High Roads (all) E, Murder by Night E, The Riddle E, Sane Asylum E+H, Reaver's Refuge (all except stealer) E, Tracker's Trap E
Level 19: Rest of Storm Horns E, Turn in both sagas

Total XP estimate: 3,805,138 = Level 20.

E means doing it once on elite
E+H+N means doing it on elite, then repeating it on hard, then repeating it on normal
R always means Reaper 1; this is a quest for heroic XP, not for reaper XP (this time).

So this is the plan, I'll have to see how it goes. Still subject to a lot of experimentation and criticism/feedback.

Is anything on this list painfully slow xp or much slower then I expect?
I found rats/wagons to be very doable at level 11, but getting 5k kills takes a while even so; is it a bad idea to do slayers at all?
Are there super XP/min quests that I forgot to put on this list and/or don't repeat as many times as they remain good xp/min quests?
How is the optimal route to 20 from here? Since I'm expecting to be able to solo elite I don't have to wait around for vale/lod groups to form, but are they still the best xp/min even after losing BB and first time bonuses on R/E/H? Is WGU so hard that I need to wait to level 19 to do it, or can we reasonably do it at level 18 (given the powerlevel I've expressed through the build/quest list). Perhaps repeating WGU is a good idea?

[acdcrocks]

It is fun fiddling around with the game and I fully recommend it to new players. I also like the challenge of reaper (although some I know do not agree). But for a life or two I'd like to try a bit more of a max-xp run then I've been doing so far, especially since I used to be about 85 past-lives behind the vets, and now I'm closer to 100 past-lives behind. At a rate of 1-2 past-lives per month, that's more then 4 years to catch up to vets on a single character.

So I'm looking at doing a duo; I've been able to solo elite BB in heroics for 3-4 lives now, I'm hoping that he'll be able to as well. Which is good because a number of quests require splitting up. I've also been looking for an optimal route from 1-20 then TR. In the past I've worried about farming favor to get to specific favor marks, leaving quests for epic BB and more recently farming easy reaper XP quests. But this life is going to be purely about that heroic XP.

In terms of build, I'm looking at doing a dual-wielding fighter/monk using tieflings until 12, when I can switch to khopeshes and stay centered. Duo partner typically plays some build that's able to trap. I think he might be looking at a barbarian or a healing class next life (with trap skills like usual? I imagine so, knowing him).

Pretty much all lists I look up for this kind of thing are many many years out of date.
Any feedback on this list is appreciated, and I hope to update it when I see suggestions that I like.

(No XP pots, No VIP, MotU/Shadowfell XP tomes, 3rd life+ xp requirements)

Level 1: Cannith Crystal E, Storehouse Secret E+H, Heyton's Rest E, The Collaberator E, Info is Key E
Level 2: Haverdasher E, Durk's E, Butcher's E, Garrison's E, Lost Tome E, Ringleader E
Level 3: Bringing the Light E, Smuggler's Wearhouse E, Stealthy Repo E, Waterworks E, Sunken Sewer E, MIA E, STK E
Level 4: Ringleader R, Bringing the Light R, Where there's Smoke R, Captives R, Kobold Assault R, Info is Key R, Haverdasher R, Durks R, Butcher's R, Lost Tome R, Sunken Sewer R, Catacombs part 1-3 R
Level 5: Catacombs rest R, Redfang R, Sacred Helm R, Tangleroot E, repeating part 7 (witch doctor) on H+N, Rest for the Restless R, Waterworks part 1-2 R
Level 6: Waterworks part 3-4 R, Irestone R, Proof is in the Poison E, Freshen the Air E, Depths chain R, Guard Duty R, Fire Caves (both) R, Garl's Tomb part 1 E
Level 7: Prove your Worth R, 2 Toe R, Ghost of a Chance R, Scoundrel's Run E, Garl's Tomb part 2 E, Small Problem E, Partycrashers E, Snitch R, Big Top R, Necro 1 E (not bloody Crypt)
Level 8: Bloody Crypt E, Mirra's R, Haunted Library E, Graverobber E, Redwillows E, Delaras (all on E, repeat part 2 on R, repeat part 4 on H), The Bountyhunter E, Stormcleave E
Level 9: The Pit E, Setinals of Stormreach chain on E, Repeat Spies on H+N, get Thunder Sea saga reward, Gwylan's R+E, Tear R+E+H
Level 10: VoN 1-4 E, Repeat VoN 3 H, Necro 2 E (except Shadow Crypt)
Level 11: Shadow Crypt R+E+H+N, Orchard s/r/e (5 rares, 5000 slayers, all explorers, once explorers are done rats/wagons to speed up slayers. Maybe a slayer pot)
Level 12: Tempest Spine E+H, VoN 5-6 E, OoB E, Chamber of Rhamat E, Wizking E+H+N, Chamber of Kourush E, Maraud the Mines E+H
Level 13: Diplomatic Impunity E, Framework E, Eyes of Stone E, Assault on Summerfield E, Blockade Buster E+H+N, Invaders E+H, Undermine E, Seigebreaker E+H+N, Relic of a sovereign Past E, From Beyond the Grave E
Level 14: all Gianthold Quests E (except raid), repeat Tor on H+N, Gianthold saga reward
Level 15: all Gianthold Quests R (except raid), Gianthold saga reward, Memoirs E, Trial of the Archons quests E, Temple of Vol E, Ghosts of Peridiction E
Level 16: Fleshmaker's E, Damned Inferno E, Temple of Vol R, Litanny R+E+H+N, LoD Chain E, Disciples of Shar E, Escape Plan E, Shadow of a Doubt R+E
Level 17: Wheloon (all) E, repeat Mirror H+N, Vale (outside quests) E, LoD chain H
Level 18: Druid's Chain (all) E, High Roads (all) E, repeat End of the Road on H

E means doing it once on elite
E+H+N means doing it on elite, then repeating it on hard, then repeating it on normal
R always means Reaper 1; this is a quest for heroic XP, not for reaper XP (this time).

And that's all I have so far; although I think it would be good to finish off both sagas (Honors of the Huntsilver and Perils of Corymir) for the 185K xp from that. I also hear inspired quarter is pretty decent for xp/min, but I've been waiting until at least 18 to do it because I remember a bunch of high-hp-high-damage mobs in those quests compared with everything lower level.

Is anything on this list painfully slow xp or much slower then I expect?
I found rats/wagons to be very doable at level 11, but getting 5k kills takes a while even so; is it a bad idea to do slayers at all?
Are there super XP/min quests that I forgot to put on this list and/or don't repeat as many times as they remain good xp/min quests?
How is the optimal route to 20 from here? Since I'm expecting to be able to solo elite I don't have to wait around for vale/lod groups to form, but are they still the best xp/min even after losing BB and first time bonuses on R/E/H? Is WGU so hard that I need to wait to level 19 to do it, or can we reasonably do it at level 18 (given the powerlevel I've expressed through the build/quest list). Perhaps repeating WGU is a good idea?

slayers suck cuz i cant afford a major pot every RTR, but great list overall

[Hutoth]

Level 11: Shadow Crypt R+E+H+N

What's the best way to repeat Shadow Crypt on different difficulties without re-flagging? Have four in flagging group, and then only one takes the quest from The Herald each run, while the others red-box?

[EllisDee37]

Pretty much all lists I look up for this kind of thing are many many years out of date.

The current TR quest list thread (from last month) is in Guides and Strategies.

Grynberg posted a pre-reaper quest list here, then updated it for reaper here.

[Selvera]

What's the best way to repeat Shadow Crypt on different difficulties without re-flagging? Have four in flagging group, and then only one takes the quest from The Herald each run, while the others red-box?

Have an alt who can open it and doesn’t do the quest.

The current TR quest list thread (from last month) is in Guides and Strategies.

Grynberg posted a pre-reaper quest list here, then updated it for reaper here.

Thanks, didn’t see that list in google or ddo forums search when I was looking for it. It looks like it’s for completionist warlocks using xp pots then my current situation, but it is still a very good + up to date reference for me to improve my list. Thanks.