Exalted Cleave requires Paladin level 3 - bug or WAI?

[Frogger1234]

I just leveled a character to Paladin level 2. Exalted Cleave is a Knight of the Chalice level 2 enhancement. The in-game text in the Enhancements panel mouseover says it requires Paladin level 3. I have verified that this is true and not a typo. My level 2 Paladin cannot take this enhancement.


https://imgur.com/a/uYdgn

And Imgur doesn't seem to support embedding with BBCodes any more. Well, you might be able to see the screen shot using the links. Looks like I need to change to another photo sharing site.

[the_one_dwarfforged]

never noticed this before.

my guess is its intentional likely due to turbines probable assumption that in most cases cleave is effectively a level 3 feat and exalted cleave is supposed to be a roughly equivalent thing.

kind of annoying i suppose but is waiting til lvl 3 really such a big deal?

[AbyssalMage]

never noticed this before.

my guess is its intentional likely due to turbines probable assumption that in most cases cleave is effectively a level 3 feat and exalted cleave is supposed to be a roughly equivalent thing.

kind of annoying i suppose but is waiting til lvl 3 really such a big deal?

Major annoyance really because you don't get G-cleave until character level 12 so throwing a bone to Paladins at level 2 would have been nice. But I do agree, it was probably done for thematic reasons.

[Saekee]

I just leveled a character to Paladin level 2. Exalted Cleave is a Knight of the Chalice level 2 enhancement. The in-game text in the Enhancements panel mouseover says it requires Paladin level 3. I have verified that this is true and not a typo. My level 2 Paladin cannot take this enhancement.


https://imgur.com/a/uYdgn

And Imgur doesn't seem to support embedding with BBCodes any more. Well, you might be able to see the screen shot using the links. Looks like I need to change to another photo sharing site.

It says that on the wiki too. Weird. Should be swapped with the tier 3 smite one.

For posting images from imgur, you need the address with.jpg in it.

[the_one_dwarfforged]

Major annoyance really because you don't get G-cleave until character level 12 so throwing a bone to Paladins at level 2 would have been nice. But I do agree, it was probably done for thematic reasons.

how is exalted cleave a major annoyance and what does avenging cleave have to do with it?

not having the second cleave until level 12 is indeed a major pita but it doesnt influence the issue in this thread. i personally dont feel there is any reason/need to make exalted cleave an exception to the normal rules of the enhancement system but at the same time, it takes 5 minutes to go from level 2 to 3.

i mean, i guess that is only the pure perspective and because the req is 3 pally not 3 character level it can potentially cause an issue but meh.

[Memnir]

Imgur doesn't seem to support embedding with BBCodes any more. Well, you might be able to see the screen shot using the links. Looks like I need to change to another photo sharing site.

Imgur works just fine.




Hover on the image when you upload it, and hit Get Share Links. Followed by hitting Copy on the link in the bottom left corner for BBCode.



(bonus picture of my dog)

[EllisDee37]

at the same time, it takes 5 minutes to go from level 2 to 3.

Not if you're staying level 2 to run all base level 2 quests on reaper for reaper xp.

[Frogger1234]

never noticed this before.

my guess is its intentional likely due to turbines probable assumption that in most cases cleave is effectively a level 3 feat and exalted cleave is supposed to be a roughly equivalent thing.

kind of annoying i suppose but is waiting til lvl 3 really such a big deal?

Humans and Fighters can take Cleave at Level 1.

The annoying part is that a Tier 2 Enhancement explicitly requires Level 3.

[unbongwah]

It's just one of a few annoyances about the KotC tree. There's also Enhancements you can take before you acquire the feats / abilities which make them useful: e.g., you can take Extra Turning and Extra Remove Disease at lvl 1, but you don't get Turn Undead and Remove Disease feats until pal lvls 4 & 6, respectively.

SSG should clean up the bugs and maybe make KotC a bit more front-loaded, IMO, but I seriously doubt it's a high priority.