The goal of this thread is to provide first-life Iconic builds which can take full advantage of the starter gear and hit the ground running. These builds are aimed at new players or those starting over on a new server and thus have little if any twink gear, tomes, etc. to start. I'll also try to keep them F2P friendly (i.e., no P2P multiclassing), at least at first.
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02-18-2016, 11:52 AM #1Build Constructionist
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Iconic Builds for New Players
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Bladeforged
Bladeforged paladin is pretty much Easy Mode for DDO: high DPS, high survivability, and a fairly straight-forward build. There are only a few question marks, like which Epic Destiny to use and what to do with your extra feats.
So let's look at a BF Knight using 2H swords aiming for Legendary Dreadnought:
Optional feats: I took Quicken Spell to reduce cast time on Reconstruct SLA; Cleave to unlock Momentum Swing / Lay Waste combo in LD; Stunning Blow for obvious reasons; Epic DR is just a filler feat, you can replace it with whatever you want. As for picking your Legendary / Scion feat: Arborea is the "no-brainer" DPS option (+2 Enhancement bonus, +20 Melee Power) which requires no extra effort on your part; OTOH, Plane of Water adds +20 MRR (more important nowadays since Turbine eliminated armor MRR) and the 2d20 Cold dmg is scaled with Spellpower, which can go a lot higher than MP, but the downside is needing to slot Glaciation somewhere.Code:BF KotC Paladin Paladin 20 Lawful Good Bladeforged Stats 28pt 32pt Level Up ---- ---- -------- Strength 16 16 4: STR Dexterity 6 6 8: STR Constitution 16 18 12: STR Intelligence 8 8 16: STR Wisdom 8 8 20: STR Charisma 16 16 24: STR 28: STR Skills 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 ------------------------------------------------------------ Intim 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 23 ------------------------------------------------------------ 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 Feats 1 : Adamantine Body 1 Deity : Follower of: Lord of Blades 3 : Power Attack 6 : Two Handed Fighting 6 Deity : Bladesworn Transformation 9 : Improved Critical: Slashing 12 : Improved Two Handed Fighting 15 : Greater Two Handed Fighting 18 : Quicken Spell 21 Epic : Overwhelming Critical 24 Epic : Cleave (required to unlock Momentum Swing) 26 Destiny: Holy Strike (can swap for Perfect Two Handed Fighting) 27 Epic : Stunning Blow 28 Destiny: Elusive Target OR First Blood OR Perfect Two Weapon Fighting 29 Destiny: Dire Charge OR Embodiment of Order 30 Epic : Epic Damage Reduction (filler) 30 Legend : Scion of: Arborea OR Plane of Water Spells- Bless, Divine Favor, <Any>, <Any>
- Angelskin, Resist Energy, <Any>, <Any>
- Prayer, Repair Serious Damage, Magic Circle Against Evil, Dispel Magic
- Holy Sword, Zeal, Repair Critical Damage, Death Ward
- Slayer of Evil, Courage of Heaven, Slayer of Evil II, Improved Courage of Heaven, Slayer of Evil III, Champion of Good
- Extra Turning II, Extra Smite II
- Divine Might III, Exalted Cleave III, Melee Power Boost III
- Improved Restoration III, Divine Sacrifice I, Exalted Smite I, Strength
- Censure Demons, Passion I, Empowered Smite
- Censure Outsiders, Holy Retribution III, Avenging Cleave III
- Holy Bastion, Sacred Defense, Divine Righteousness, Redemption
- Extra Lay On Hands III, Durable Defense III
- Bulwark Aura III, Resilient Defense II
- Resistance Aura III, Tenacious OR Strong Defense III
- Swift Defense
- Improved Fortification
- Mechanist III
- Communion of Scribing III
- Improved Power Attack I
- Weapon Attachment, Power of the Forge
- SD0 Holy Bastion; SD1 Extra Lay On Hands I, II, III
- SD1 Durable Defense I; KoC0 Slayer of Evil; Bld0 Improved Fortification
- Bld1 Mechanist I; SD0 Sacred Defense; Bld1 Mechanist II
- Bld1 Mechanist III; Bld2 Communion of Scribing I
- Bld2 Communion of Scribing II, III
- Bld3 Improved Power Attack I; Bld4 Power of the Forge; KoC1 Extra Smite I
- KoC1 Extra Smite II; KoC1 Extra Turning I, II; KoC0 Courage of Heaven
- KoC2 Exalted Cleave I, II, III
- KoC2 Divine Might I; KoC2 Melee Power Boost I, II, III
- KoC2 Divine Might II, III
- KoC0 Slayer of Evil II; KoC3 Divine Sacrifice I; KoC3 Exalted Smite I
- KoC4 Censure Demons; KoC4 Passion I; KoC4 Empowered Smite
- KoC0 Improved Courage of Heaven; KoC3 Improved Restoration I, II, III
- KoC5 Avenging Cleave I, II, III; KoC5 Censure Outsiders
- KoC5 Holy Retribution I, II, III; SD1 Durable Defense II
- SD1 Durable Defense III; SD2 Bulwark Aura I, II, III
- SD3 Tenacious Defense I, II, III; SD0 Divine Righteousness
- SD3 Resistance Aura I, II, III; SD2 Resilient Defense I
- SD2 Resilient Defense II; SD4 Swift Defense; SD0 Redemption; Bld4 Weapon Attachment
- KoC0 Slayer of Evil III; KoC3 Strength; KoC0 Champion of Good
- Legendary Tactics III, Extra Action Boost III
- Momentum Swing III, Imp. Power Attack
- Lay Waste, Critical Damage I, Haste Boost III
- Volcano's Edge
- Advancing Blows, Devastating Critical
- Master's Blitz
- Grim Precision (Tier 3 Shadowdancer) OR Endless Lay on Hands (Tier 3 Sentinel)
- Hail of Blows (Tier 2 Flowers)
- Brace for Impact (Tier 1 Sentinel)
Skills: normally I max out Use Magic Device (UMD) on every character, but there's not much a BF pally needs to UMD, unless you're dying to use, e.g., Stoneskin wands or alignment-restricted gear. So here I maxed Intim, but other options include Concentration, Repair, or even Spellcraft (would boost Cold Spellpower for Scion of Plane of Water).
Required extra gear to start:
- Any WIS +6 item (preferably neck slot) so you can use lvl 3 & 4 spells. [Alternatively: a +2 WIS tome or access to a guildship with +2 WIS buff.]
Recommended extra gear to start:
- Deadly & Seeker items to boost DPS; goggles slot is a good spot for it.
- Wizardry item for extra spellpoints; can be a swap item for ring slot.
- Forgeblade is kinda so-so DPS, IMO, so upgrading that should be an early priority too. Falchions are usually best for 2H pallies; Whirlwind is good too. Ideally you acquire a SOS, but...not exactly what I would call a "first-life friendly" option.
Eldritch Knight (non-lousy DPS edition) - this is an update on a build I've been using off & on for the last couple of years. Basically, it trades the extra melee DPS from the last two KotC cores for extra survivability from Eldritch Knight PrE plus two bonus wizard feats. In particular, I like Arcane Barrier: both a handy defensive buff and a visual reminder you forgot to Reconstruct yourself.
- Loses: +10 Melee Power, +4d6 light dmg, +4 CHA (-> +2 STR -> +1.5 dmg mod), good-aligned weapons
- Gains: +10% AC, +10 PRR, Arcane Barrier, +1d6 cold dmg, 23 ranks of Spellcraft (boosts Cold Spellpower)
Skills: you can see I maxed out Spellcraft for extra Spellpower and Concentration. If you'd rather max out UMD, Intim, or Repair - hey, knock yourself out.Code:BF Eldritch KotC 15/5 Paladin/Wizard Lawful Good Bladeforged Level Order 1. Paladin 6. Paladin 11. Paladin 16. Paladin 2. Wizard 7. Paladin 12. Paladin 17. Wizard 3. Paladin 8. Paladin 13. Paladin 18. Wizard 4. Paladin 9. Paladin 14. Paladin 19. Wizard 5. Paladin 10. Paladin 15. Paladin 20. Wizard Stats 28pt 32pt Level Up ---- ---- -------- Strength 16 16 4: STR Dexterity 6 6 8: STR Constitution 16 16 12: STR Intelligence 12 12 16: STR Wisdom 8 8 20: STR Charisma 14 16 24: STR 28: STR Skills P W P P P P P P P P P P P P P P W W W W 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 ------------------------------------------------------------ Concent 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 23 Spellcr 2 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 1 1 1 23 Repair 1 1 1 3 Balance 1 1 Tumble 1 1 ------------------------------------------------------------ 12 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 Feats 1 : Adamantine Body 1 Deity : Follower of: Lord of Blades 2 Wizard : Quicken Spell 3 : Power Attack 6 : Two Handed Fighting 7 Deity : Bladesworn Transformation 9 : Improved Critical: Slashing 12 : Improved Two Handed Fighting 15 : Greater Two Handed Fighting 18 : Stunning Blow 20 Wizard : Extend Spell 21 Epic : Overwhelming Critical 24 Epic : Cleave 26 Destiny: Perfect Two Handed Fighting 27 Epic : Maximize Spell 28 Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting OR First Blood 29 Destiny: Dire Charge 30 Epic : Epic Damage Reduction 30 Legend : Scion of: Plane of Water Enhancements (80 AP) Knight of the Chalice (34 AP)- Slayer of Evil, Courage of Heaven, Slayer of Evil II, Improved Courage of Heaven
- Extra Turning II, Extra Smite II
- Divine Might III, Exalted Cleave III, Melee Power Boost III
- Improved Restoration III, Divine Sacrifice I, Exalted Smite I
- Censure Demons, Passion I, Empowered Smite
- Censure Outsiders, Avenging Cleave III
- Improved Fortification
- Mechanist III
- Communion of Scribing III
- Improved Power Attack I
- Communion of Handling, Weapon Attachment, Power of the Forge
- Holy Bastion, Sacred Defense, Divine Righteousness
- Extra Lay On Hands III, Durable Defense III
- Resilient Defense II
- Tenacious Defense III
- Eldritch Strike, Spellsword: Frost
- Improved Mage Armor III, Item Defense I
- Improved Shield III, Martial Training
- Arcane Barrier III
- Bld0 Improved Fortification; Bld1 Mechanist I
- Bld1 Mechanist II; Bld2 Communion of Scribing I
- Bld2 Communion of Scribing II, III; SD0 Holy Bastion
- SD1 Extra Lay On Hands I, II, III; SD1 Durable Defense I
- SD0 Sacred Defense; SD1 Durable Defense II, III; SD2 Resilient Defense I
- SD2 Resilient Defense II; SD3 Tenacious Defense I, II, III
- KoC0 Slayer of Evil; KoC1 Extra Smite I, II; KoC1 Extra Turning I
- KoC1 Extra Turning II; KoC0 Courage of Heaven; KoC2 Divine Might I
- KoC2 Divine Might II, III
- KoC0 Slayer of Evil II; KoC2 Exalted Cleave I, II, III
- KoC2 Melee Power Boost I, II, III; KoC3 Divine Sacrifice I
- (Bank AP)
- KoC0 Improved Courage of Heaven; KoC4 Passion I; KoC4 Censure Demons; KoC3 Exalted Smite I; KoC4 Empowered Smite; KoC3 Improved Restoration I
- KoC3 Improved Restoration II, III; KoC5 Avenging Cleave I, II
- KoC5 Avenging Cleave III; KoC5 Censure Outsiders; Bld3 Improved Power Attack I
- Bld1 Mechanist III; Bld4 Power of the Forge; Bld4 Weapon Attachment
- Bld4 Communion of Handling; EKw0 Eldritch Strike; EKw1 Improved Mage Armor I, II
- EKw1 Improved Mage Armor III; EKw1 Item Defense I; EKw2 Martial Training
- EKw2 Improved Shield I, II, III; EKw3 Arcane Barrier I
- EKw3 Arcane Barrier II, III; EKw0 Spellsword: Frost; SD0 Divine Righteousness
- Legendary Tactics III, Extra Action Boost II
- Momentum Swing III, Imp. Power Attack
- Lay Waste, Haste Boost III
- Volcano's Edge
- Advancing Blows, Devastating Critical
- Master's Blitz, Headman's Chop
- Grim Precision (Tier 3 Shadowdancer)
- Hail of Blows (Tier 2 Flowers)
- Brace for Impact (Tier 1 Sentinel)
- Endless Faith (Tier 1 Exalted)
Cold dmg: 1d6 Spellsword + 2d20 Scion of Water = 24.5 dmg per hit. Presuming 500 Spellpower, that becomes 24.5 * 6 = 147 dmg per hit. So that actually compares favorably to the +4d6 light dmg I lose by dropping KotC 18/20 cores.
In this configuration, I don't invest in ASF reduction; that's because Displacement has no somatic component (and thus is immune to ASF) and Haste can be replicated thru gear. That lets me focus APs elsewhere. But if you'd rather be able to cast Haste, you'll need to shift some APs into Inscribed Armor (-15%) and pick up a -15% ASF blue augment; Spellsword also provides -5% ASF, so that gets it down to zero.Last edited by unbongwah; 03-01-2016 at 07:03 PM.
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Morninglord
Our first build is a WIS-based DPS caster focused on light spells, with heavy investment into the racial tree for extra Light spellpower and Sunburst SLA; with just enough invested in Radiant Servant for bursts.
Stats: max WIS, of course, with 6 to 10 pts into CON. I bumped up INT for more skill pts and higher Spellcraft. Alternatively, you could go less INT and more CHA for extra TUs to power Radiant Bursts.Code:Lightbringer Cleric 20 True Neutral Morninglord Stats 28pt 32pt Level Up ---- ---- -------- Strength 8 8 4: WIS Dexterity 8 8 8: WIS Constitution 12 14 12: WIS Intelligence 16 16 16: WIS Wisdom 18 18 20: WIS Charisma 8 8 24: WIS 28: WIS Skills 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 ------------------------------------------------------------ Concent 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 23 Heal 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 23 Spellcr 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 23 Balance 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 11 UMD 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 11 Tumble 1 1 ------------------------------------------------------------ 20 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 Feats 1 : Maximize Spell 1 Deity : Follower of: Amaunator 3 : Empower Spell 6 : Empower Healing Spell 6 Deity : Amaunator's Brilliance 9 : Quicken Spell 12 : Heighten Spell 15 : Spell Focus: Evocation 18 : Greater Spell Focus: Evocation OR Enlarge Spell OR Insightful Reflexes 21 Epic : Epic Spell Focus: Evocation OR Wellspring of Power 24 Epic : Master of: Light OR Intensify Spell 26 Destiny: Epic Spell Power: Light 27 Epic : Ruin 28 Destiny: Mass Frog OR Epic Spell Power: Positive 29 Destiny: Arcane Pulse 30 Epic : Greater Ruin OR Embolden Spell 30 Legend : Scion of: Celestia Enhancements (80 AP) Divine Disciple (45 AP)- Emissary: Light, Sacred Defense, Sun Bolt, Sunbeam, Sunburst, Transcend: Light
- Nimbus of Light III, Spellpower: Light III, Spell Critical: Light
- Spellpower: Universal III, Spell Critical: Light
- Searing Light III, Spellpower: Light III, Spell Critical: Light, Wisdom
- Holy Smite III, Evocation DC, Spell Critical: Light, Wisdom
- Flame Strike III, Light Spellpower, Divine Empowerment
- Elven Accuracy
- Rejuvenation of Dawn II
- Blessing of Amaunator III
- Light of the Sun God III
- Amaunator's Brilliance III, Aura of Radiance III
- Healing Domain, Pacifism, Positive Energy Burst
- Extra Turning III, Wand Mastery III, Altruism III
- Rad0 Healing Domain; Rad1 Altruism I, II, III
- DD0 Emissary: Light; DD1 Nimbus of Light I, II, III
- DD1 Spell Critical: Light; DD0 Sacred Defense
- DD2 Spell Critical: Light; DD1 Spellpower: Light I, II, III
- DD3 Searing Light I, II, III
- DD3 Spell Critical: Light; DD0 Sun Bolt; DD3 Spellpower: Light I, II
- DD4 Holy Smite I, II, III
- DD4 Spell Critical: Light; DD4 Evocation DC; DD3 Spellpower: Light III
- DD3 Wisdom; DD4 Wisdom
- Rad1 Extra Turning I; Rad0 Pacifism; Rad1 Wand Mastery I, II
- Rad1 Wand Mastery III; Rad1 Extra Turning II; Rad0 Positive Energy Burst; DD2 Spellpower: Universal I
- DD0 Sunbeam; DD5 Flame Strike I, II, III
- DD5 Divine Empowerment; DD5 Light Spellpower
- Sun0 Elven Accuracy; Sun1 Rejuvenation of Dawn I
- Sun1 Rejuvenation of Dawn II; DD2 Spellpower: Universal II, III; Rad1 Extra Turning III
- Sun2 Blessing of Amaunator I, II
- Sun2 Blessing of Amaunator III; Sun3 Light of the Sun God I
- Sun3 Light of the Sun God II, III
- DD0 Sunburst; Sun4 Aura of Radiance I, II, III
- Sun4 Amaunator's Brilliance I, II, III; DD0 Transcend: Light
- Avenging Light, Radiant Power III, Endless Faith II, Healing Power II
- Soundburst III
- (none)
- Rebuke Foe, Blood and Radiance III, Excoriate
- Leap of Faith
- Divine Wrath (or Sunbolt SLA), Reborn in Light
- Empyrean Magic (Tier 3 Crusader)
- School Specialist: Evocation (Tier 2 Magister)
- Precise: Evocation (Tier 2 Draconic)
Feats: for me the must-have heroic caster feats are usually Maximize, Empower, Empower Heal, Quicken, Heighten, and at least one Spell Focus (usually Evocation) to unlock the DC Twists in Magister and Draconic. This leaves just the lvl 18 feat open; options include Gtr Spell Focus, Enlarge (increases the range of many of your spells), or Insightful Reflexes (in which case you can dump DEX gear entirely). The epic caster feats are the ones which are tough to pick, IMO: too many decent options, not enough slots.
Required extra gear to start:
- None
Recommended extra gear to start:
- Sage's Locket for +4 Evocation DCs, though it also means you'll want to find a different Speed / Striding item.
- Wizardry item for extra SPs: ring makes a good swap slot, or farm a Sage's Sash.
- Blade Barrier is boosted by Impulse Spellpower. If you have access to a Cannith crafter, an Impulse of Kinetic Lore item would be great. Or you could try your luck farming a Rod of Mythant, which can also be your Wizardry item. Otherwise, save up your plat and shop for random lootgen, I suppose...
Implosioneer - this variant invests heavily into Spell Penetration in order to boost its chances of landing Implosion on high-SR mobs (hence the name): +8 from feats, +3 from elven Arcanum, +3 from DiDi, +3 from Exalted Angel, and +3 from Piercing Spellcraft twist for +20 Spell Pen total. [Boosting Spell Pen also helps with Necro spells and Gtr Command if you use them too.] It's a little more of a specialized / flavor build, IMO, but it still has strong caster DPS. Not bothering to list all the optional feats or leveling guide this time.
Code:Implosioneer Cleric 20 True Neutral Morninglord Stats 28pt 32pt Level Up ---- ---- -------- Strength 8 8 4: WIS Dexterity 8 8 8: WIS Constitution 12 14 12: WIS Intelligence 16 16 16: WIS Wisdom 18 18 20: WIS Charisma 8 8 24: WIS 28: WIS Skills 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 ------------------------------------------------------------ Concent 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 23 Heal 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 23 Spellcr 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 23 Balance 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 11 UMD 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 11 Tumble 1 1 ------------------------------------------------------------ 20 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 Feats 1 : Maximize Spell 1 Deity : Follower of: Amaunator 3 : Empower Spell 6 : Quicken Spell 6 Deity : Amaunator's Brilliance 9 : Heighten Spell 12 : Spell Focus: Evocation 15 : Spell Penetration 18 : Greater Spell Penetration 21 Epic : Epic Spell Penetration 24 Epic : Master of: Light 26 Destiny: Epic Spell Power: Light 27 Epic : Ruin 28 Destiny: Mass Frog 29 Destiny: Arcane Pulse 30 Epic : Greater Ruin 30 Legend : Scion of: Celestia Enhancements (80 AP) Divine Disciple (46 AP)- Emissary: Light, Sacred Defense, Sun Bolt, Sunbeam, Sunburst, Transcend: Light
- Nimbus of Light III, Spellpower: Light III, Spell Critical: Light
- Spell Penetration III, Spell Critical: Light
- Searing Light III, Spellpower: Light III, Spell Critical: Light, Wisdom
- Holy Smite III, Evocation DC, Spell Critical: Light
- Flame Strike III, Light Spellpower, Divine Empowerment
- Elven Accuracy
- Rejuvenation of Dawn II
- Arcanum III
- Light of the Sun God III
- Amaunator's Brilliance III, Aura of Radiance III
- Healing Domain, Pacifism, Positive Energy Burst
- Extra Turning II, Wand Mastery III, Altruism III
- Empyrean Magic (Tier 3 Crusader)
- Piercing Spellcraft (Tier 3 Magister)
- School Specialist: Evocation (Tier 2 Magister)
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Purple Dragon Knight
PDK Vanguard: Turbine finally got around to buffing fighters in U31, so let's add a proper S&B tank at long last.
You have a lot of flexibility with feats; I tried to find a good compromise between DPS, tactics, and survivability. Likewise with EDs: I think Div Crusader offers the best tradeoff between DPS and healing for a tank; but Dreadnought and Sentinel are viable alternatives, depending on whether you wish to boost DPS or tankability more. The +2 and +5 tomes are from Favor; the +1s are from loot drops or bought from Auction House. I designed this to use PDK starter gear, including the longsword until you obtain a bastard sword, like Charoush, First Blood, or Retribution. I went CG for Blessed Blades' alignment bypass; plus just to be different from paladins.Code:PDK Vanguard Fighter 20 Chaotic Good Purple Dragon Knight Stats 28pt 32pt Tome Level Up ---- ---- ---- -------- Strength 16 16 +2 4: STR Dexterity 12 12 +1 8: STR Constitution 16 16 +5 12: STR Intelligence 12 12 +1 16: STR Wisdom 8 8 20: STR Charisma 8 12 24: STR 28: STR Skills 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 ------------------------------------------------------------ Intim 3 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 23 Heal 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 11 Balance 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 11 UMD 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 11 Jump 1 1 Tumble 1 1 ------------------------------------------------------------ 16 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 Feats 1 : Shield Mastery 1 PDK : Power Attack 1 Fighter: Cleave 2 Fighter: Two Handed Fighting 3 : Exotic Weapon: Bastard Sword 4 Fighter: Great Cleave 6 : Stunning Blow 6 Fighter: Improved Two Handed Fighting 8 Fighter: Improved Shield Mastery 9 : Improved Critical: Slashing 10 Fighter: Improved Shield Bash 12 : Tactical Mastery OR Improved Sunder 12 Fighter: Greater Two Handed Fighting 14 Fighter: Heavy Armor Champion 15 : Toughness 16 Fighter: Tactical Supremacy 18 : Improved Trip OR Magical Training 18 Fighter: Combat Expertise 20 Fighter: Precision 21 Epic : Overwhelming Critical 24 Epic : Bulwark of Defense 26 Destiny: Perfect Two Handed Fighting 27 Epic : Blinding Speed 28 Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting OR Elusive Target 29 Destiny: Dire Charge OR Embodiment of Law 30 Epic : Epic Damage Reduction 30 Swap : Epic Toughness replaces Bulwark of Defense 30 Legend : Scion of: Arborea OR Feywild OR Plane of Earth Enhancements (80 AP) Vanguard (41 AP)- To the Fore!, Shield Combat I, Vicious Shield I, Shield Combat II, Vicious Shield II, Shield Champion
- Shield Specialization, Shield Smash III
- Shield Specialization, Brutality III, Stunning Shield III, Missile Shield III
- Shield Specialization, Follow Up III, Fatal Bulwark, Shield Riposte III
- (none)
- Shield to the Face, Disorienting Smash II, Shield Charge III, Armored Strength
- Kensei Focus: Heavy Blades, Spiritual Bond, Strike with No Thought, Power Surge
- Extra Action Boost III, Weapon Group Specialization, Exotic Weapon Mastery, Haste Boost III
- Ascetic Training: Conditioning III
- Shattering Strike I
- Strike at the Heart
- Toughness, Stalwart Defense
- Item Defense I, Durable Defense III
- Resilient Defense III, Instinctive Defense I
- Tenacious Defense III
- Damage Boost
- Improved Recovery
- PDK0 Damage Boost; PDK1 Improved Recovery; Van0 To the Fore!
- Van1 Shield Specialization; Van1 Shield Smash I, II
- Van1 Shield Smash III; Van0 Shield Combat I; Van2 Stunning Shield I, II
- Van2 Stunning Shield III; Van3 Fatal Bulwark; Van3 Follow Up I
- Van3 Follow Up II, III; Van2 Shield Specialization
- Van0 Vicious Shield I; Van3 Shield Specialization; Van2 Missile Shield I
- Van2 Missile Shield II, III; Van3 Shield Riposte I, II
- Van3 Shield Riposte III; Van2 Brutality I, II, III
- SD0 Toughness; SD1 Durable Defense I, II, III
- SD1 Item Defense I; SD0 Stalwart Defense; Ken0 Kensei Focus: Heavy Blades
- Ken1 Exotic Weapon Mastery; Ken1 Weapon Group Specialization; Ken0 Spiritual Bond
- Ken1 Haste Boost I, II, III; Ken2 Ascetic Training: Conditioning I
- Ken0 Strike with No Thought; Van0 Shield Combat II; Van5 Shield to the Face
- Van5 Armored Strength; Van5 Disorienting Smash I, II
- Van5 Shield Charge I, II, III; SD2 Resilient Defense I
- SD2 Resilient Defense II, III; SD2 Instinctive Defense I; SD3 Tenacious Defense I
- SD3 Tenacious Defense II, III; Ken2 Ascetic Training: Conditioning II, III
- Van0 Vicious Shield II; Ken3 Shattering Strike I; Ken1 Extra Action Boost I
- Ken1 Extra Action Boost II, III
- Van0 Shield Champion; Ken0 Power Surge; Ken4 Strike at the Heart
- Bane of Undeath, Interrogation, Purge the Wicked, Strength
- Consecration III
- Sacred Ground, Empyrean Magic, Blessed Blades
- No Regret, Crusade
- Castigation, Celestial Champion
- Strike Down
- Legendary Shield Mastery (Tier 2 Sentinel)
- Momentum Swing OR Improved Combat Expertise (Tier 2 Dreadnought)
- Rejuvenation Cocoon (Tier 1 Primal)
- Brace for Impact (Tier 1 Sentinel)
PD Kensei variant: Based on conversations in this thread and elsewhere, I've been wondering about S&B ftrs who go for T5 Kensei + capstone, rather than Vanguard. Downside is you give up the extra atk speed & shield bashes from higher-lvl VG abilities; upsides are a big boost to Melee Power, +1 crit range, up to +14 dmg from feats & Weapon Master, One Cut's clickie, extra action boosts, and higher doublestrike (which basically offsets the lost atk speed). I'm pretty sure this build has higher AoE DPS and might even have higher single-target DPS, at least under certain circumstances. The only downsides so far are losing the free stun attempts on shield bashes and needing to invest feats into the Weapon Focus / Spec line if you want to Weapon Master.
I'm only going to list the parts which are different from the build above, namely the feats & Enhancements.
PD Kensei Knight: Inspired by this thread, this build takes advantage of the recent buffs to Kensei to revive the ftr / pal hybrid. This is a SWF build designed to use khopeshes, but this build can play right out of the gate; use the default PDK longsword until you can farm something better, like a water khopesh or Bleeding Edge. You will eventually need a +6 WIS item, but not until lvl 20 when you take Zeal.Code:PDK Kensei VG Fighter 20 Chaotic Good Purple Dragon Knight Feats 1 : Shield Mastery 1 PDK : Power Attack 1 Fighter: Cleave 2 Fighter: Two Handed Fighting 3 : Exotic Weapon: Bastard Sword 4 Fighter: Great Cleave 6 : Stunning Blow 6 Fighter: Improved Two Handed Fighting 8 Fighter: Improved Shield Mastery 9 : Improved Critical: Slashing 10 Fighter: Weapon Focus: Slashing 12 : Weapon Specialization: Slashing 12 Fighter: Greater Two Handed Fighting 14 Fighter: Heavy Armor Champion OR Improved Shield Bash 15 : Greater Weapon Focus: Slashing 16 Fighter: Tactical Supremacy 18 : Toughness 18 Fighter: Combat Expertise 20 Fighter: Precision 21 Epic : Overwhelming Critical 24 Epic : Bulwark of Defense 26 Destiny: Perfect Two Handed Fighting 27 Epic : Blinding Speed 28 Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting OR Elusive Target 29 Destiny: Dire Charge 30 Epic : Heavy Armor Master OR Tactical Mastery 30 Swap : Epic Toughness replaces Bulwark of Defense 30 Legend : Scion of: Arborea OR Feywild OR Plane of Earth Enhancements (80 AP) Kensei (41 AP)
- Kensei Focus: Heavy Blades, Spiritual Bond, Strike with No Thought, Power Surge, One Cut, Alacrity
- Extra Action Boost III, Weapon Group Specialization, Exotic Weapon Mastery, Haste Boost III
- Weapon Group Specialization, Ascetic Training: Conditioning II
- Weapon Group Specialization, Shattering Strike III, Strength
- Weapon Group Specialization, Strike at the Heart, Strength
- A Good Death: Melee, Weapon Master, One with the Blade, Deadly Strike, Keen Edge
- To the Fore!, Shield Combat I, Vicious Shield I, Shield Combat II
- Shield Specialization, Shield Smash III
- Brutality III, Stunning Shield I, Missile Shield III
- Follow Up III, Fatal Bulwark
- Shield Charge I
- Toughness, Stalwart Defense, Overbalance
- Item Defense I, Durable Defense III
- Resilient Defense III, Instinctive Defense I
- Tenacious Defense III
- Damage Boost
- Improved Recovery
- PDK0 Damage Boost; Ken0 Kensei Focus: Heavy Blades; Ken1 Weapon Group Specialization
- Ken1 Exotic Weapon Mastery; Ken1 Haste Boost I, II
- Ken1 Haste Boost III; Ken0 Spiritual Bond; Ken1 Extra Action Boost I
- Ken1 Extra Action Boost II, III
- Ken3 Strength; Ken3 Shattering Strike I, II
- Ken3 Shattering Strike III; Ken0 Strike with No Thought; Ken2 Ascetic Training: Conditioning I, II
- Ken4 Strike at the Heart; Ken4 Strength
- Van0 To the Fore!; Van1 Shield Specialization; Van1 Shield Smash I
- Van1 Shield Smash II, III; Van0 Shield Combat I; Van2 Stunning Shield I
- Van2 Brutality I, II, III; Van0 Vicious Shield I
- SD0 Toughness; SD1 Durable Defense I, II, III
- SD1 Item Defense I; SD0 Stalwart Defense; Ken0 Power Surge
- Ken2 Weapon Group Specialization; Ken5 One with the Blade; Ken5 Keen Edge
- Van3 Fatal Bulwark; Van3 Follow Up I, II, III
- Van2 Missile Shield I, II, III; Van0 Shield Combat II
- Van4 Shield Charge I; Ken3 Weapon Group Specialization
- Ken4 Weapon Group Specialization; Ken5 Weapon Master; Ken5 A Good Death: Melee; Ken5 Deadly Strike
- Ken0 One Cut; SD2 Resilient Defense I, II, III
- SD2 Instinctive Defense I; SD3 Tenacious Defense I, II, III
- Ken0 Alacrity; SD0 Overbalance; PDK1 Improved Recovery
Code:PD Kensei Knight 14/6 Paladin/Fighter Lawful Good Purple Dragon Knight Level Order 1. Fighter 6. Fighter 11. Paladin 16. Paladin 2. Fighter 7. Paladin 12. Paladin 17. Paladin 3. Fighter 8. Paladin 13. Paladin 18. Paladin 4. Fighter 9. Paladin 14. Paladin 19. Paladin 5. Fighter 10. Paladin 15. Paladin 20. Paladin Stats 28pt 32pt Level Up ---- ---- -------- Strength 16 16 4: STR Dexterity 8 8 8: STR Constitution 14 16 12: STR Intelligence 10 10 16: STR Wisdom 8 8 20: STR Charisma 16 16 24: STR 28: STR Skills F F F F F F P P P P P P P P P P P P P P 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 ------------------------------------------------------------ Intim 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 23 UMD 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 11 Heal 2 2 2 2 8 Balance 2 1 1 1 1 1 7 Tumble 1 1 ------------------------------------------------------------ 12 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 Feats 1 : Single Weapon Fighting 1 PDK : Exotic Weapon: Khopesh 1 Fighter: Power Attack 2 Fighter: Cleave 3 : Weapon Focus: Slashing 4 Fighter: Great Cleave 6 : Improved Single Weapon Fighting 6 Fighter: Weapon Specialization: Slashing 7 Deity : Follower of: Amaunator 9 : Improved Critical: Slashing 12 : Greater Single Weapon Fighting 12 Deity : Amaunator's Brilliance 15 : Stunning Blow 18 : Quicken Spell 21 Epic : Empower Healing Spell 24 Epic : Overwhelming Critical 26 Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting 27 Epic : Blinding Speed 28 Destiny: Perfect Single Weapon Fighting OR Elusive Target 29 Destiny: Dire Charge 30 Epic : Epic Damage Reduction 30 Legend : Scion of: Arborea Enhancements (80 AP) Kensei (32 AP)- Kensei Focus: Heavy Blades, Spiritual Bond, Strike with No Thought
- Extra Action Boost III, Weapon Group Specialization, Exotic Weapon Mastery, Haste Boost III
- Tactics I, Weapon Group Specialization
- Weapon Group Specialization, Shattering Strike II, Strength
- Strike at the Heart, Strength
- One with the Blade, Keen Edge
- Holy Bastion, Sacred Defense
- Extra Lay On Hands III, Durable Defense III
- Bulwark Aura III, Resilient Defense III
- Resistance Aura III, Tenacious Defense III
- Swift Defense, Strong Defense III
- Slayer of Evil, Courage of Heaven, Slayer of Evil II, Improved Courage of Heaven
- Extra Turning II, Extra Smite II
- Divine Might III, Exalted Cleave III
- Divine Sacrifice II, Exalted Smite I
- Empowered Smite
- Damage Boost
- PDK0 Damage Boost; Ken0 Kensei Focus: Heavy Blades; Ken1 Weapon Group Specialization
- Ken1 Exotic Weapon Mastery; Ken1 Haste Boost I, II
- Ken1 Haste Boost III; Ken0 Spiritual Bond; Ken2 Weapon Group Specialization
- Ken1 Extra Action Boost I, II
- Ken1 Extra Action Boost III; Ken3 Strength
- Ken0 Strike with No Thought; Ken3 Weapon Group Specialization
- Ken4 Strike at the Heart; Ken4 Strength; Ken3 Shattering Strike I
- Ken3 Shattering Strike II; Ken2 Tactics I; SaD0 Holy Bastion
- SaD1 Extra Lay On Hands I, II, III; SaD1 Durable Defense I
- SaD0 Sacred Defense; SaD1 Durable Defense II, III; SaD2 Resilient Defense I
- SaD2 Resilient Defense II; SaD3 Tenacious Defense I, II, III
- Ken5 One with the Blade; Ken5 Keen Edge; KoC0 Slayer of Evil; KoC1 Extra Smite I
- KoC1 Extra Smite II; KoC1 Extra Turning I, II
- KoC2 Divine Might I, II
- KoC2 Divine Might III; KoC2 Exalted Cleave I, II, III
- KoC0 Courage of Heaven; KoC0 Slayer of Evil II; KoC3 Exalted Smite I
- KoC3 Divine Sacrifice I, II; KoC4 Empowered Smite
- KoC0 Improved Courage of Heaven; SaD2 Resilient Defense III; SaD2 Bulwark Aura I, II
- SaD2 Bulwark Aura III; SaD3 Resistance Aura I, II, III
- SaD4 Swift Defense; SaD4 Strong Defense I, II, III
- Legendary Tactics III, Extra Action Boost III, Strength
- Momentum Swing III, Imp. Power Attack, Strength
- Lay Waste
- Volcano's Edge
- Advancing Blows, Devastating Critical
- Master's Blitz
- Grim Precision (Tier 3 Shadowdancer)
- Endless Lay On Hands (Tier 3 Sentinel)
- Rejuvenation Cocoon (Tier 1 Primal)
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What is wrong with the gear already for starter gear on simple builds around what they race starts as? Or is the goal for more class builds to fit into it.
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DEX-based TWF Assassin builds are also pretty straight-forward. Mine is very similar to slarden's halfling DEX build.
(EDIT 8/22/21) The biggest change is Update 50 buffed Shadar-kai's racial tree, in particular the chain attacks are actually useful now and address one of pure Assassin's shortcomings, namely no AoE DPS. you need to learn to use Improved Feint to take full advantage of sneak attacks vs mobs while using the chains. See Strimtom's SWF SDK Assassin thread.
Sneak attacks (SA): 10d6 rogue levels + 8d6 Assassin + 2d6 SDK + 3d6 Improved Sneak Attack feat + 6d6 Shadowdancer + 6d6 Scion of Ethereal Plane = 35d6 SA (122.5 avg dmg per hit).Code:SDK Assassin (U50) Rogue 20 True Neutral Shadar-kai Stats 32pt Level Up ---- -------- Strength 8 4: DEX Dexterity 20 8: DEX Constitution 14 12: DEX Intelligence 16 16: DEX Wisdom 8 20: DEX Charisma 6 24: DEX 28: DEX Skills 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 ------------------------------------------------------------ Disable 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 23 Open Lo 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 23 Search 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 23 Spot 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 23 Bluff 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 23 Balance 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 23 Hide 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 23 Move Si 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 23 Tumble 3 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 23 UMD 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 23 Concent 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 11 Swim 1 1 ------------------------------------------------------------ 44 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 Feats 1 : Two Weapon Fighting 3 : Precision 6 : Improved Feint 9 : Improved Two Weapon Fighting 12 : Improved Critical: Piercing 15 : Greater Two Weapon Fighting 18 : Two Weapon Defense OR Weapon Finesse 21 Epic : Improved Sneak Attack 24 Epic : Overwhelming Critical 26 Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting 27 Epic : Epic Damage Reduction 28 Destiny: First Blood OR Elusive Target 29 Destiny: Dire Charge OR Deific Warding 30 Epic : Epic Reflexes OR Watchful Eye 30 Legend : Scion of: Ethereal Plane 10 Rogue : Opportunist 13 Rogue : Crippling Strike 16 Rogue : Improved Evasion 19 Rogue : Defensive Roll OR Skill Mastery Enhancements (Spent: 80 +0r +0u / Max: 80 +0r +0u AP) Assassin (43 AP)- Knife in the Darkness, Dagger in the Back, Assassin's Trick, Nimbleness, Lethality, Deadly Shadow
- Poison Strikes: Heartseeker, Sneak Attack Training, Stealthy III
- Venomed Blades III, Sneak Attack Training, Damage Boost III
- Sneak Attack Training
- Execute, Killer III, Weakening Strikes, Sneak Attack Training
- Assassinate, Measure the Foe III, Deadly Strikes, Knife Specialization, Light Armor Mastery III
- Shadar-kai Grit, Dexterity, Shadow Phase, Shadow Jaunt, Empowered Jaunt
- Vicious Chain
- Forceful Chain, Ghostly Essence III, Guile
- Ghastly Chain, Displacement, Guile
- Greater Spiked Chain Attack, Assassin's Mark, Gloom Stalker
- Staff Control, Stick Fighting, Tumbler
- Sly Flourish III, Fast Movement
- Haste Boost III
- Shadow Dodge III
- Thief-Acrobat: Staff Control
- Fast Movement
- Assassin: Knife in the Darkness, Dagger in the Back, Assassin's Trick, Nimbleness
- Poison Strikes: Heartseeker, Sneak Attack Training, Stealthy III
- Venomed Blades III, Sneak Attack Training, Damage Boost III
- Sneak Attack Training
- Execute, Killer III, Weakening Strikes, Sneak Attack Training
- Assassinate, Deadly Strikes, Knife Specialization
- Shadar-kai: Shadar-kai Grit, Dexterity, Shadow Phase, Shadow Jaunt
- Vicious Chain
- Forceful Chain, Ghostly Essence III, Guile
- Ghastly Chain, Displacement
- Greater Spiked Chain Attack, Assassin's Mark
- Stealthy III, Technician I
- Lithe III, Skill Mastery
- Shrouding Strike I, Meld into Darkness III, Grim Precision III
- Improved Invisibility I
- Untouchable, Executioner's Strike I, Sealed Soul
- Shadow Form, Dark Imbuement
- Balanced Attacks (Tier 3 Primal)
- Extra Action Boost (Tier 1 Dreadnought)
- Unearthly Reactions (Tier 1 Magister)
Required extra gear to start:
- None, though a lot more healing potions certainly wouldn't go amiss...
Recommended extra gear to start:
- +6 INT swap item for trapping. Until then, you can use Fox's Cunning potions.
- Deadly & Seeker items: helm and goggles can be used as swap slots.
- Deception gear: Backstabber's Gloves are the obvious choice, though it means giving up your initial doublestrike bonus. At level 17, Golden Guile is a good option, since it also adds Dusk and boosts your Bluff & Diplomacy.
SDK Mechanic: This build requires a repeater or great xbow to start; Divine Artillery or Fatal Flaw would be ideal, but even a HN Trapsmith or a decent lootgen repeater would suffice. You'll also want +INT gear ASAP to boost DPS & trap skills; and Deception gear for extra ranged SAs. [EDIT: Backstabber's Gloves are a good choice, b/c Doublestrike does nothing for Mechanics and +2 to-hit isn't that important.] It requires a +2 DEX tome from Favor, but not until lvl 24 when you take Imp Sneak Atk. For a 28pt build, start DEX 18 INT 16 CON 14 CHA 8, I think, and drop either Concentration or Heal.
At some point, you'll probably find that Mechanic traps are no longer effective, at which point you'll ditch them and put your APs elsewhere. So enjoy them while they're useful!Code:SDK Mechanic Rogue 20 True Neutral Shadar-kai Stats 32pt Tome Level Up ---- ---- -------- Strength 8 4: INT Dexterity 18 +2 8: INT Constitution 14 12: DEX Intelligence 18 16: INT Wisdom 8 20: INT Charisma 6 24: INT 28: INT Skills 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 ------------------------------------------------------------ Disable 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 23 Open Lo 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 23 Search 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 23 Spot 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 23 Bluff 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 23 Diplo 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 23 Hide 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 23 Move Si 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 23 Tumble 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 23 UMD 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 23 Balance 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 15 Concent 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 11 Heal 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 11 Jump 1 1 ------------------------------------------------------------ 48 12 12 12 12 12 12 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 14 Feats 1 : Point Blank Shot 3 : Rapid Shot 6 : Rapid Reload 9 : Precise Shot 10 Rogue : Improved Evasion 12 : Improved Critical: Ranged 13 Rogue : Opportunist 15 : Improved Precise Shot 16 Rogue : Crippling Strike OR Skill Mastery 18 : Precision 19 Rogue : Defensive Roll OR Skill Mastery 21 Epic : Overwhelming Critical 24 Epic : Improved Sneak Attack 26 Destiny: Holy Strike OR Pierce Damage Reduction: Cold Iron 27 Epic : Combat Archery 28 Destiny: Doubleshot 29 Destiny: Embodiment of Law OR Deific Warding 30 Epic : Blinding Speed OR Epic Damage Reduction OR Insightful Reflexes 30 Legend : Scion of: Ethereal Plane Enhancements (80 AP) Mechanic (44 AP)- Arbalester, Tanglefoot, Targeting Sights, Improved Detection, Expert Builder, Hip Flask
- Sharpshooter, Thunderstone III
- Sharpshooter, Improved Traps III, Wand and Scroll Mastery III
- Sharpshooter, Wracking Shot I, Ooze Flask III
- Sharpshooter, Fletching III, Leg Shot
- Sharpshooter, Rapid Fire III, Time Bomb III, Sniper, Mechanical Reloader
- Knife in the Darkness, Dagger in the Back, Assassin's Trick
- Sneak Attack Training, Stealthy III
- Venomed Blades III, Sneak Attack Training, Damage Boost III
- Sneak Attack Training, Intelligence
- Killer III, Sneak Attack Training
- Shadar-kai Grit, Intelligence, Shadow Phase, Shadow Jaunt
- (none)
- Guile
- Staff Control
- Fast Movement
- TA0 Staff Control; TA1 Fast Movement; Mec0 Arbalester
- Mec1 Sharpshooter; Mec1 Thunderstone I, II
- Mec1 Thunderstone III; Mec0 Tanglefoot; Mec2 Sharpshooter
- Mec2 Improved Traps I, II, III
- Mec3 Sharpshooter; Mec3 Ooze Flask I, II, III
- Mec0 Targeting Sights; Mec2 Wand and Scroll Mastery I, II, III
- Mec4 Sharpshooter; Mec4 Fletching I, II
- Mec4 Fletching III; Mec4 Leg Shot; Mec3 Wracking Shot I
- Ass0 Knife in the Darkness; Ass1 Sneak Attack Training; Ass1 Stealthy I
- Ass1 Stealthy II, III; Ass0 Dagger in the Back; Ass2 Damage Boost I
- Ass2 Damage Boost II, III; Ass2 Sneak Attack Training
- Mec0 Improved Detection; Mec5 Sharpshooter; Mec5 Rapid Fire I
- Mec5 Rapid Fire II, III; Mec5 Sniper
- Mec5 Mechanical Reloader; Mec5 Time Bomb I, II
- Mec5 Time Bomb III; Ass0 Assassin's Trick; Ass2 Venomed Blades I, II
- Ass2 Venomed Blades III; Ass3 Sneak Attack Training
- Ass3 Intelligence; Ass4 Killer I, II, III
- Mec0 Expert Builder; Ass4 Sneak Attack Training; SK0 Shadar-kai Grit
- SK0 Intelligence; SK0 Shadow Phase
- Mec0 Hip Flask; SK2 Guile; SK0 Shadow Jaunt
- Extra Action Boost III, Constitution
- Damage Boost III, Constitution
- Critical Damage III, Haste Boost III
- (none)
- Advancing Blows, Devastating Critical
- Master's Blitz, Pulverizer
- Grim Precision (Tier 3 Shadowdancer)
- Pin (Tier 2 Shiradi)
- Rejuvenation Cocoon (Tier 1 Primal)
EDIT: while you can use any crossbow with this build to start, here are the named xbows I recommend for this build.
http://ddowiki.com/page/Item
ivine_Artillery
http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:The_Fatal_Flaw
http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Light_Boltslinger
SDK Daggerdruid: This is a fairly straight-forward flavor build: DEX-based TWF druid 15 / rogue 5 using daggers (hence the less-than-spectacular name). Requires druid, obviously, and a WIS item to start to cast spells; you'll need WIS 18 by lvl 20 from whatever combo of gear, tome, shipbuff, etc. you can manage. Decent melee DPS, a little bit of caster DPS (partly for flavor, partly for Arcane Warrior stacks), plus plenty of heal & buffs from druid spells + Sacred Ground, ofc.
I delayed the last rogue level to lvl 20 in order to squeeze out more skill pts; but the downside is you don't get tier-5 Assassin enhancements until then, so your heroic leveling will be slower / more of a PITA due to lower melee DPS. If you have a +2 INT tome to start, divide the extra skill pts between Open Lock and Heal. If you have Harper, you can ditch SDK enhancements for Know the Angles.Code:SDK Daggerdruid 15/5 Druid/Rogue Neutral Good Shadar-kai Level Order 1. Rogue 6. Druid 11. Druid 16. Druid 2. Druid 7. Druid 12. Rogue 17. Druid 3. Druid 8. Rogue 13. Druid 18. Druid 4. Druid 9. Druid 14. Druid 19. Druid 5. Druid 10. Druid 15. Rogue 20. Rogue Stats 32pt Level Up ---- -------- Strength 8 4: DEX Dexterity 20 8: DEX Constitution 14 12: DEX Intelligence 16 16: DEX Wisdom 8 20: DEX Charisma 6 24: DEX 28: DEX Skills R D D D D D D R D D D R D D R D D D D R 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 ------------------------------------------------------------ Spellcr 2 2 2 1 1 1 1 2 1 1 2 1 2 1 1 1 1 23 Disable 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 23 Search 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 23 Spot 4 1 1 2 2 1 2 1 1 2 1 2 1 1 1 23 UMD 4 7 4 3 5 23 Open Lo 4 1 2 5 6 1 19 Heal 2 2 1 1 1 7 Balance 4 4 Jump 4 4 Swim 4 4 Tumble 4 4 ------------------------------------------------------------ 44 7 7 7 7 7 7 11 7 7 7 11 7 7 11 7 7 7 7 11 Feats 1 : Two Weapon Fighting 3 : Precision 3 Druid : Wild Shape 1: Wolf 6 : Quicken Spell 6 Druid : Wild Shape 1: Bear 9 : Improved Two Weapon Fighting 10 Druid : Wild Shape 2: Winter Wolf 12 : Improved Critical: Piercing 14 Druid : Wild Shape 2: Dire Bear 15 : Greater Two Weapon Fighting 17 Druid : Wild Shape 3: Fire Elemental 18 : Empower Healing Spell 21 Epic : Overwhelming Critical 24 Epic : Two Weapon Defense OR Hamstring 26 Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting 27 Epic : Epic Damage Reduction 28 Destiny: First Blood OR Elusive Target 29 Destiny: Arcane Warrior OR Dire Charge 30 Epic : Blinding Speed OR Epic Reflexes 30 Legend : Scion of: Plane of Fire Spells Druid- Ram's Might, <Any>, <Any>, <Any>, <Any>
- Barkskin, <Any>, <Any>, <Any>, <Any>
- Sleet Storm, <Any>, <Any>, <Any>, <Any>
- Freedom of Movement, Cure Serious Wounds, <Any>, <Any>, <Any>
- Death Ward, Greater Vigor, Stoneskin, Cure Critical Wounds, Panacea
- <Any>, <Any>, <Any>, <Any>
- Regenerate, Mass Greater Vigor, Body of the Sun
- <Any>, <Any>
- Knife in the Darkness, Dagger in the Back
- Poison Strikes: Heartseeker, Shiv III, Sneak Attack Training
- Venomed Blades III, Sneak Attack Training, Damage Boost III
- Sneak Attack Training, Dexterity
- Execute, Killer III, Sneak Attack Training, Dexterity
- Measure the Foe III, Deadly Strikes, Knife Specialization
- Staff Control, Stick Fighting
- Thief Acrobatics III, Sly Flourish II, Fast Movement
- Haste Boost III
- Shadow Dodge III, Dexterity
- No Mercy III
- Nature's Warrior
- Extra Wild Empathy III, Shifting Rake I
- Flight III, Vengeful Hunter II
- Fatal Harrier III
- Shadar-kai Grit, Dexterity, Shadow Phase, Shadow Jaunt
- Bane of Undeath, Interrogation, Purge the Wicked
- Consecration III, Flames of Purity II
- Sacred Ground, Empyrean Magic, Blessed Blades
- No Regret, Crusade
- Castigation, Celestial Champion
- Strike Down
- Sense Weakness (Tier 4 Fury)
- Grim Precision (Tier 3 Shadowdancer)
- Balanced Attacks (Tier 3 Primal)
- Rejuvenation Cocoon (Tier 1 Primal)
EDIT: due to low DCs, fire spells like Body of the Sun and firewall are just there to help build stacks of Arcane Warrior and Empyrean Magic, which in turn help melee DPS and Consecration, respectively.Last edited by unbongwah; 08-22-2021 at 04:18 PM.
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EDIT: turns out I have Deep Gnomes after all, which surprises me since I know I didn't purchase them yet and I thought VIPs had to pay to unlock, same as other Iconics. Oh well, gift horses, mouths, etc.
So first let's try Illusion Archmage, which is clearly the intent behind DDO gnomes, with heavy investment in the Deep Gnome racial tree for good measure. This build has both the racial & PrE Phantasmal Killer SLAs, for double the killing powah. Remaining APs spread between Eldritch Knight (light armor prof, -5% ASF) and Pale Master.
Q: Hey, why'd you make a gnome vampire?Code:Svirfneblin Illusionist Wizard 20 True Neutral Deep Gnome Stats 28pt 32pt Level Up ---- ---- -------- Strength 8 6 4: INT Dexterity 8 8 8: INT Constitution 16 18 12: INT Intelligence 20 20 16: INT Wisdom 10 10 20: INT Charisma 6 6 24: INT 28: INT Skills 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 ------------------------------------------------------------ Concent 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 23 Spellcr 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 23 Perform 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 11 Heal 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 11 Search 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 11 Diplo 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 11 UMD 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 11 Spot 2 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 8 Repair 1 1 1 3 Balance 1 1 Tumble 1 1 ------------------------------------------------------------ 28 7 7 7 7 7 7 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 9 9 9 9 9 Feats 1 : Insightful Reflexes 1 Wizard : Maximize Spell 3 : Extend Spell 5 Wizard : Empower Spell 6 : Heighten Spell 9 : Enlarge Spell 10 Wizard : Spell Focus: Illusion 12 : Greater Spell Focus: Illusion 15 : Spell Penetration 15 Wizard : Quicken Spell 18 : Greater Spell Penetration 20 Wizard : Spell Focus: Conjuration OR Necromancy 21 Epic : Epic Spell Penetration 24 Epic : Master of: Knowledge 26 Destiny: Epic Spell Power: Force 27 Epic : Ruin 28 Destiny: Hellball 29 Destiny: Arcane Pulse 30 Epic : Intensify Spell OR Greater Ruin 30 Legend : Scion of: Plane of Fire Enhancements (80 AP) Archmage (41 AP)- Invisibility, Blur, Displacement, Phantasmal Killer, Shadow Walk, Master of Magic
- Subtle Spellcasting I, Traditionalist Caster III, Spell Critical
- Spell Critical
- Arcane Bolt III, Spell Penetration III, Spell Critical, Intelligence
- School Mastery: Illusion, Spell Critical
- Arcane Blast III, Arcane Supremacy, School Mastery: Illusion
- Wariness, Intelligence, Wariness II, Intelligence, Retain Scroll Essence
- (none)
- Color Spray III
- Spellcraft III, Illusion Focus III
- Phantasmal Killer III
- Dark Reaping, Zombie Form, Vampire Form
- Spell Critical, Negative Energy Conduit III
- Spell Critical, Bone Armor III
- Eldritch Strike
- Improved Mage Armor III, Item Defense I
- Light Armor Proficiency
- PM0 Dark Reaping; PM1 Negative Energy Conduit I, II, III
- PM1 Spell Critical; PM2 Bone Armor I, II
- PM2 Bone Armor III; PM0 Zombie Form; PM2 Spell Critical
- AM0 Invisibility; AM1 Subtle Spellcasting I; AM1 Traditionalist Caster I, II
- AM1 Traditionalist Caster III; AM0 Blur; AM1 Spell Critical
- AM2 Spell Critical; AM0 Displacement
- AM3 Arcane Bolt I, II
- AM3 Arcane Bolt III; AM3 Spell Critical
- AM3 Intelligence; AM4 School Mastery: Illusion
- AM4 Spell Critical; AM3 Spell Penetration I
- AM3 Spell Penetration II; (Bank 3 AP)
- PM0 Vampire Form; AM0 Phantasmal Killer; AM5 Arcane Blast I, II, III; AM5 Arcane Supremacy
- AM5 School Mastery: Illusion; DPG0 Wariness
- DPG0 Intelligence; DPG0 Wariness II; DPG0 Intelligence
- DPG2 Color Spray I, II, III; (Bank 1 AP)
- DPG0 Retain Scroll Essence; DPG3 Spellcraft I, II, III; DPG3 Illusion Focus I
- DPG3 Illusion Focus II; DPG4 Phantasmal Killer I, II, III
- AM0 Shadow Walk; DPG3 Illusion Focus III; EKw0 Eldritch Strike; EKw1 Improved Mage Armor I
- EKw1 Improved Mage Armor II, III; AM3 Spell Penetration III
- AM0 Master of Magic; EKw1 Item Defense I; EKw2 Light Armor Proficiency
- Healing Spring III, Illusion of Well Being I
- Prism, Fey Spring III, Fey Form III
- Rainbow
- Double Rainbow, Elemental Absorption I
- Nerve Venom III
- Audience with the Queen, Rain of Arrows
- Piercing Spellcraft (Tier 3 Magister)
- School Specialist: Illusion (Tier 2 Magister)
- Precise: Conjuration (Tier 2 Draconic)
A: ...I don't understand the question. It's a vampire who is also a gnome. Why wouldn't you make one?!
Also I discovered once I took everything I wanted from Archmage and racial trees, I didn't have enough APs left for wraith form, so decided to stop at vampire form and put leftover APs into EK for lt armor prof.
But mostly because gnome vampire.
Required extra gear to start:
- None.
Recommended extra gear to start:
- Negative Spellpower to boost Necro spells; Madstone Skull is a good option, since Deep Gnomes don't start with orbs and equipping it will also enable the +10 Spellpower bonus from Traditionalist Caster.
- Since DGs start with a Corrosion hammer, a Conjuration Focus item would be good for acid spells. Unfortunately, I don't see a named option for ML:15 or below; but later you can use Wizard's Ward, Nether Orb, or Sage's Shoes. [One possible variant: Conjuration Archmage for Web / Stinking Cloud / Cloudkill SLAs with Illusion as secondary school.]
- If you intend to use Necro spells for DPS (rather than just self-unhealing), you'll also want Necro Spell Focus item.
- The starter robe is okay, but you might want to consider acquiring an Frozen Tunic for Glaciation + Ice Lore. Actually any of the Cannith caster gear is worth considering, though naturally it means rearranging your other gear bonuses to make room.
- ...finally noticed DGs don't start with a Potency or Impulse item, either. Impulse spellpower boosts Arcane Bolt / Blast plus the Missile spells, so it's definitely worth picking up. As with the Morninglord, Rod of Mythant is a good option if you can acquire it.
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02-18-2016, 01:05 PM #8Community Member
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You forgot one!
Svirfneblin Illusionist Archmage!
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02-18-2016, 01:20 PM #9Build Constructionist
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Originally Posted by lifestaker
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02-18-2016, 01:50 PM #10Intergalactic Space Crusader
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For the teens I like this falchion, http://ddowiki.com/page/Vampiric_Cleaver Originally Posted by unbongwah
Later on I upgrade to a poor man's SOS, http://i.imgur.com/kH7PR5B.jpg . I'm still looking to see if I can find some new loot-gen to replace it with. I've been stuck on the SOS for years now. Have shard but not the other 2 pieces of the 3 piece meal deal.
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02-18-2016, 08:59 PM #11
Awesome thread.
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02-18-2016, 09:08 PM #12
I wouldn't recommend to new players to start with an iconic at level 15. I think they should hit Korthos and learn the ropes, start at low levels and get to know the basics.
I think it is a nice idea like you mention for experienced players on new servers.Wiki dashboard with some useful stealthplay links. LONG LIVE STEALTH!
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02-19-2016, 11:57 AM #13Build Constructionist
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Posted two ML builds: one focused purely on light-based DPS, the other with heavy emphasis on Spell Pen to land Implosion et al on high-SR mobs.
To be honest, I'm on the fence about what to do with the PDK build(s). Clearly the starter gear and base class suggest it's meant for a S&B toon; but we all know ftrs are well behind pallies in both DPS and survivability (and have been for the last year and a half). OTOH, I don't just want to post another pally Vanguard build (e.g. pal 19 / ftr 1 or 18/2) on top of BF pally. Then again, should I post a pure ftr VG with the caveat "Don't play this until after the fighter pass!"? But I almost feel like it would be better to tell newbies to ditch the S&B, grab a decent 2H weapon, and play a PDK barb, since even without barb capstone it's gonna out-DPS any ftr I can come up with right now. Decisions, decisions...
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02-19-2016, 12:30 PM #14Intergalactic Space Crusader
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PDK/Sorc and PDK/Bard
I have several of each, PDK/Sorc and PDK/Bard. Originally Posted by unbongwah
The one PDK/Sorc I'm playing right now is an ice based savant. Likewise the PDK/Bard I'm running can Disco and is swash. I went with orb on the swash.
EDIT ~ I forgot to mention I'm also playing one of these, but probably not new player friendly per se since Im using a collection of rune arms, https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...=salad+shooterLast edited by Livmo; 02-19-2016 at 12:34 PM.
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02-25-2016, 09:31 PM #15Community Member
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Perhaps put together the best of a bad situation? A 30 fighter PDK that is designed to get to 30 for an Iconic Reincarnation? Originally Posted by unbongwah
Sure, other classes could do it way easier, but some people are purists. What is the least painful way to get to 30 on a pure PDK fighter?
<.< Totally not for selfish reasons, or anything.
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02-26-2016, 09:20 AM #16Build Constructionist
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I will probably just take my latest Dwarven Defender and convert it to PDK using bastard swords. I've got a couple of flavor build ideas using CKT+Know the Angles for a CHA+INT-based Vanguard, but they're not really suitable for a first-life build.
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I'm currently running a PDK Vanguard life, so I'd be interested to see where we diverge on build ideas (though I'd be happy to post it if you'd rather fix that than come up with a full build)
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02-26-2016, 12:50 PM #18Intergalactic Space Crusader
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This sounds interesting. Are you going TWF or S&B? Originally Posted by unbongwah
Also are gonna splash some rouge or arty for any INT synergy?
I haven't tried PDK w/bastard sword yet.
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Not sure how viable it is for first life/tomeless, but I imagine a good fit for a go-to PDK build (given the current state of fighter) is Swashbuckler with 3 levels of fighter to get stalwart stance with HP/con bonuses. 15bard/3fight/2rogue seems popular. It doesn't have any serious stat requirements (just 13 dex for precision) so it should be ok. Originally Posted by unbongwah
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03-01-2016, 03:22 PM #20Build Constructionist
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I've posted a Deep Gnome Illusionist. I could've just gone with a conventional Pale Master, of course, but that didn't seem to play to their racial bonuses.
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