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    Quote Originally Posted by unbongwah View Post
    Light-based Evoker FvS in Exalted Angel should be okay with new epic caster feats to play with; either human for extra feat or Deep Gnome / ML w/+1 LR for capstone & extra spellpower. Main downside to FvS since U19 is lack of SLAs, IMHO; AoV really should've gotten more than just the capstone.
    Yeah,.. I think if they had sorc cast speed they could get away with not having slas...

    Quote Originally Posted by CThruTheEgo View Post
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    Thank you for the insight. I haven't had such luck with artificers but I don't mesh well with the playstle even though I love hybrids.

    I HAVE noticed the power drop in my bard, and am doing active testing to try and optimize him a bit more- if you'd like I can keep you updated on this testing. Took me a while after returning to remember why bards are my favorite class but I'm back at it now.

    I think discussing class power is also appropriate for this thread as it is attempting to help players build their characters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maelodic View Post
    I HAVE noticed the power drop in my bard, and am doing active testing to try and optimize him a bit more- if you'd like I can keep you updated on this testing. Took me a while after returning to remember why bards are my favorite class but I'm back at it now.
    I discuss some options in The Count's thread, but didn't update the OP because I wasn't completely happy with any of them. Each option would have altered the build further from its original concept than I would have liked. That's certainly not to say that any of those options would be bad, just that they weren't for me. As can be seen from the numerous builds linked under the bard section in this thread, there are a variety of ways to build and play one.

    I actually TRed my Count about a week ago into an acrobat. I've always wanted to play an acrobat and started several, but never finished one. I figured if I TR one of my multilife characters into one, then I'd have to finish it lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maelodic View Post
    I think discussing class power is also appropriate for this thread as it is attempting to help players build their characters.
    I tend to agree. Plus, I'm of the opinion that discussions evolve and going off topic (to some degree) isn't necessarily something to be avoided, but I know not everyone agrees with that perspective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CThruTheEgo View Post
    Sorry if this is off-topic EllisDee. Hopefully it serves as a bump to expose people to this awesome resource.
    Not at all.

    As far as I'm concerned, comparing various builds, discussing playstyles, and comparing class balance are all exactly on topic for this thread.

    Other posts I would hope/expect to see would be quick drive-by "Include build _____ in the lists when you get a chance" type deals.

    Quote Originally Posted by CThruTheEgo View Post
    I tend to agree. Plus, I'm of the opinion that discussions evolve and going off topic (to some degree) isn't necessarily something to be avoided, but I know not everyone agrees with that perspective.
    I'm generally pretty firm about specific build threads staying on topic for that build, but otherwise I'm a big fan of thread drift.

    In a thread like this, I already reserved and have used all the "critical" posts on the first page, so any discussion is gravy if only just to keep the thread on the first page.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EllisDee37 View Post
    In a thread like this, I already reserved and have used all the "critical" posts on the first page, so any discussion is gravy if only just to keep the thread on the first page.
    At this point this thread should probably be stickied.
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    Added the following two Warlock builds:

    Voodu Warlock: A Pure Warlock Enlightened Spirit Tank by Nachomammashouse
    Warlock 20, Drow
    Warlock, Drow

    Kirtz - The Enlightened Scholar - Damage, Crowd Control, Chaos, New Player Friendly by Maelodic
    Warlock 20, Drow
    Warlock, Drow

    At some point I need to sit down and assign descriptions to warlock builds like I do with the other classes. (THF Melee, DC Caster, Nuker, etc...) I just don't know anything about Warlocks, and laziness is winning out over curiosity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EllisDee37 View Post
    At some point I need to sit down and assign descriptions to warlock builds like I do with the other classes. (THF Melee, DC Caster, Nuker, etc...) I just don't know anything about Warlocks, and laziness is winning out over curiosity.
    The vast majority of builds are basically variants of enlightened spirit's aura+bursts combo with high survivability.

    Pure Casting Warlock DC Eld Blast Build by slarden
    Nuker (Light), Aura+Bursts, Evards CC

    The Gladys Knight - A tanky, swashbuckling warlock with soul! by Gnarkh
    SWF Melee, Aura+Bursts

    Porcupine - Bladeforged Warlock 18/ Paladin 2 by JOTMON
    Aura+Bursts

    Basic GOO by Tilomere
    CON Tank, Aura+Burst+Soul Eater

    Voodu Warlock: A Pure Warlock Enlightened Spirit Tank by Nachomammashouse
    Tank, Aura+Bursts

    Kirtz - The Enlightened Scholar - Damage, Crowd Control, Chaos, New Player Friendly by Maelodic
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maelodic View Post
    At this point this thread should probably be stickied.
    Agreed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordovan View Post
    Agreed.
    And there was much rejoicing.
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    Added the following two builds:

    11 Cleric / 6 Monk / 3 Paladin - Good Monkey, now Heal by Theolin
    Clonk (unarmed melee), 11/6/3 Cleric/Monk/Paladin Purple Dragon Knight
    Monk, Purple Dragon Knight, +1 Dex tome

    15 Paladin / 3 wiz / 2 Fighter - CleavinBoard by Theolin
    S&B Melee, 15/3/2 Paladin/Wizard/Fighter, Purple Dragon Knight
    Purple Dragon Knight, either past lives or a +1 Strength tome


    I also added category headings to the monk post to differentiate between shuricannons, monkchers and unarmed. I actually did this in preparation for adding the clonk but then realized that a clonk is a cleric, not a monk.


    EDIT: And finally, I just noticed that the OP preamble included this:
    Premium Builds include pay features (premium races/classes, iconics, tomes, harper agent, 32pt builds) or past lives. A brand new player can start with a premium build if they already have the listed premium features unlocked. For example, if the only premium features listed are Drow and Warlock, a VIP can roll it up immediately.
    Which, of course, isn't true. Drow aren't part of VIP, so I changed it to Gnome.

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    Also added:

    Self-Healing Halfling Mechanic For New Players by Jiirix
    Mechanic, 18/1/1 Rogue/Cleric/Fighter
    Uses a +2 Dex tome in epics from 1750 favor reward

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    Wow what a great resource, thanks for putting this together and for including a couple of my builds! I added this link to our guild's website resource page

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    Quote Originally Posted by EllisDee37 View Post
    Also added:

    Self-Healing Halfling Mechanic For New Players by Jiirix
    Mechanic, 18/1/1 Rogue/Cleric/Fighter
    Uses a +2 Dex tome in epics from 1750 favor reward
    Thanks. I will fix the formating and add some hints like "one level of cleric lets you use cure serious wands".
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    Quote Originally Posted by EllisDee37 View Post
    Forum / Wiki


    New Player Builds

    Pure Casting Warlock DC Eld Blast Build by slarden
    Warlock 20, Drow or Human
    Warlock
    You are free to classify the build how you wish, but truth is while the build is very new-player friendly it certainly shouldn't be pigeon-holed as a new player build. This build was made specifically to beat EE and now LE content and the fact that it worked well without past lifes was just pure luck.

    The other warlock build on the forums I would consider playing on a completionist for top level content is sergod's build which you don't have listed. Sergod's build is an insta-kill build partially going against will saves suitable for LE Shroud where fort saves are off the charts since one of the patches. I don't think you go into an LE shroud without at least one warlock spec'd this way so it should definitely be on your list.

    https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...for-LE-Content

    I will probably make a character like this specifically for LE Shroud now that they raised fort saves so much. It's a niche build for LE raids, but it's amazing for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slarden View Post
    You are free to classify the build how you wish, but truth is while the build is very new-player friendly it certainly shouldn't be pigeon-holed as a new player build. This build was made specifically to beat EE and now LE content and the fact that it worked well without past lifes was just pure luck.
    For the purposes of this thread, new player builds are defined as builds that don't require premium features, tomes, or past lives. (Other than the primary class.)

    Several of the new player builds are endgame worthy. In addition to your warlock, there's Zoda's barbarian, Erkid's paladin, Eth's NoYellowbar (I think?), and Gingerspyce's druid. I do see I explicitly stated this for the druid; I'll go through and tag the other new player builds that are endgame viable.

    The other warlock build on the forums I would consider playing on a completionist for top level content is sergod's build which you don't have listed. Sergod's build is an insta-kill build partially going against will saves suitable for LE Shroud where fort saves are off the charts since one of the patches. I don't think you go into an LE shroud without at least one warlock spec'd this way so it should definitely be on your list.

    https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...for-LE-Content

    I will probably make a character like this specifically for LE Shroud now that they raised fort saves so much. It's a niche build for LE raids, but it's amazing for that.
    Cool, I'll add it. Probably tomorrow, and at the same time I'll toss in those endgame tags.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EllisDee37 View Post
    For the purposes of this thread, new player builds are defined as builds that don't require premium features, tomes, or past lives. (Other than the primary class.)

    Several of the new player builds are endgame worthy. In addition to your warlock, there's Zoda's barbarian, Erkid's paladin, Eth's NoYellowbar (I think?), and Gingerspyce's druid. I do see I explicitly stated this for the druid; I'll go through and tag the other new player builds that are endgame viable.

    Cool, I'll add it. Probably tomorrow, and at the same time I'll toss in those endgame tags.
    Thank you for the explanation. Also, great thread!
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    I went through and added "(Also Endgame viable)" tags to the New Player builds. Premium builds are all assumed to be viable in endgame, but it's reasonable to think that people might see a build in a New Player section and assume it's NOT endgame viable. Hopefully the tags will clear up any confusion.

    Added a new Warlock build:

    Zergod - DC/Instakill Soul Eater Fiend Warlock for LE Content - 90 CHA with Ruins by kalaka
    Warlock 20, Human
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    Quote Originally Posted by slarden View Post
    The other warlock build on the forums I would consider playing on a completionist for top level content is sergod's build which you don't have listed. Sergod's build is an insta-kill build partially going against will saves suitable for LE Shroud where fort saves are off the charts since one of the patches. I don't think you go into an LE shroud without at least one warlock spec'd this way so it should definitely be on your list.

    https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...for-LE-Content

    I will probably make a character like this specifically for LE Shroud now that they raised fort saves so much. It's a niche build for LE raids, but it's amazing for that.
    The reason I didn't originally include Zergod (I remember considering it) is because there is no information about starting stats. The build is now included, with the mystery stats tagged as a premium feature. That kind of appeals to me, actually.

    It's worth pointing out that the OP of the Zergod thread explicitly states that the build isn't viable for LE Shroud:

    Quote Originally Posted by kalaka View Post
    I want to be clear that this build is NOT viable for LE shroud end game. It is very powerful everywhere else but NOT in LE Shroud, even maxed out. LE Shroud it is relegated to CC duty, which it is only mediocre at, as mass hold and web is its only CC. It doesn't have mind fog, irr dance, or disco ball. On that note it is a very powerful character, and very fun to play. You NEED 6 past lives though. 12 is best (3clr 3 sorc also). You don't need completionist. Other feats work.

    I ended up switching to a build very similar to the Enlightened Scholar (a few threads down). My comments as to how I differed from the Enlightened Scholar are in his thread,

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    Very useful thread.

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    I just noticed that you have a Paladin build (Steel Shrine) listed in the fighter section.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dream_Marauder View Post
    I just noticed that you have a Paladin build (Steel Shrine) listed in the fighter section.
    Nice catch, thanks much. It's moved over to Paladin now.

    (It doesn't even have ANY fighters levels at all! Not sure what happened there.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by EllisDee37 View Post
    Revisiting the Dwarven Defender by unbongwah
    S&B melee tank, Fighter 20, Dwarf
    FYI, I've started a new thread so it can replace this old one.
    Quote Originally Posted by EllisDee37 View Post
    Revisiting the Halfling Acrobat for New Players by unbongwah
    Acrobat (THF Melee), Rogue 20, Halfling, Dex-based
    This build, OTOH, I would consider obsolete; I never got around to updating it since the U25 rogue overhaul. And while I have posted other Acrobat builds here & there, all of them rely on at least +3 or 4 STR tome to hit THF feat pre-reqs, so not exactly newbie-friendly.

    Also there aren't enough gimpy flavor builds listed, so I nominate this DEX-based elf rogue AA.
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