Level 30 and your Epic TRs

[Severlin]

~ Just a reminder that epic levels are increasing to level 30 with Update 29, so if you are working on an Epic character for the purpose of a true reincarnation you might want to level before update 29 as it will be take more XP when you can go to level 30.

~ Yes, we have read the question about what happens when a level 28 character starts a reincarnation and then the level is increased. We are discussing that internally.

Sev~

[Thrudh]

When is Update 29 coming out? Roughly, I mean.

[PermaBanned]

That's your second ominous statement today. Kinda concerning when even a Dev says (in essence) "hurry up and get done before the cap increase!"

[Basura_Grande]

When is Update 29 coming out? Roughly, I mean.

Soon

[Steve_Howe]

When is Update 29 coming out? Roughly, I mean.

Before the end of the year...roughly.

[maddong]

Why don't we just let people still epic TR at level 28?

[gwonbush]

There was talk of lowering the epic xp curve when the cap was increased to 30 (while still requiring more xp, not as much more as it would have been). Is this still a thing?

[Qhualor]

~ Just a reminder that epic levels are increasing to level 30 with Update 29, so if you are working on an Epic character for the purpose of a true reincarnation you might want to level before update 29 as it will be take more XP when you can go to level 30.

~ Yes, we have read the question about what happens when a level 28 character starts a reincarnation and then the level is increased. We are discussing that internally.

Sev~

can we get some advanced notice what the xp curve will look like in epics as soon as possible?

[EllisDee37]

Mabar runs through Sunday, November 8th.

Any chance we could get an Epic XP Bonus Weekend for November 13th-15th?

[Enderoc]

Should have made a third tier of reincarnation which would have eventually taken you to level 35 but players could begin working on them now.

[Uska]

Why don't we just let people still epic TR at level 28?

because its suppose to be cap if you want 28 then you dont want 30

[Uska]

Should have made a third tier of reincarnation which would have eventually taken you to level 35 but players could begin working on them now.

30 is supose to be it

[Sgt_Hart]

~ Just a reminder that epic levels are increasing to level 30 with Update 29, so if you are working on an Epic character for the purpose of a true reincarnation you might want to level before update 29 as it will be take more XP when you can go to level 30.

~ Yes, we have read the question about what happens when a level 28 character starts a reincarnation and then the level is increased. We are discussing that internally.

Sev~

If this is your plan to be reassuring, you need a bigger drawing board.

Also, if the plan is another "Here's stuff we're considering internally for future updates(You're getting it in two weeks.)" It might not have the desired effect.

[Seikojin]

~ Just a reminder that epic levels are increasing to level 30 with Update 29, so if you are working on an Epic character for the purpose of a true reincarnation you might want to level before update 29 as it will be take more XP when you can go to level 30.

~ Yes, we have read the question about what happens when a level 28 character starts a reincarnation and then the level is increased. We are discussing that internally.

Sev~

Thanks for the reminder, and I am glad you are looking into that case.

So it looks like 29 and 30 will just cost more. Does this mean additional exp earned at cap now will put us towards 29 and 30? I am guessing not since it says max epic exp achieved. So in my mind, when the new max is added to the game, then existing lvl 28's will need 1 exp to hit 29.

When is Update 29 coming out? Roughly, I mean.

Probably the week before Christmas.

[GeoffWatson]

~ Just a reminder that epic levels are increasing to level 30 with Update 29, so if you are working on an Epic character for the purpose of a true reincarnation you might want to level before update 29 as it will be take more XP when you can go to level 30.

Sev~

How much more?
Levels 26-28 are already a grind on an ER, though IRs aren't as bad with the first time bonuses.
If the original plan of 3 million extra XP needed is still happening, that will be enough for me to quit DDO.

[Powerhungry]

If the original plan of 3 million extra XP needed is still happening, that will be enough for me to quit DDO.

A character at cap 28 would need 1.5M to 29 and 1.65M to 30 (3.15M additional exp). Is there any reason to expect this progression to change?

[Aletys]

How much more?
Levels 26-28 are already a grind on an ER, though IRs aren't as bad with the first time bonuses.
If the original plan of 3 million extra XP needed is still happening, that will be enough for me to quit DDO.

/signed.
This.

A character at cap 28 would need 1.5M to 29 and 1.65M to 30 (3.15M additional exp). Is there any reason to expect this progression to change?

Sanity?

I don't know that I'll quit, but I'll certainly consider if it's worth the pain to continue with this. I may just decide to do what alot of my guildies are already doing: They show up once a week for the guild runs, and that's about the only time they play.

A whole bunch of players have gotten many ER's done on their toons, and they only needed 6 million xp to do it. It seems rather unfair to now require more xp to achieve the same goal. The fact that it's been known for some time that the cap would go up does not change this. 6 million has been the status quo for a very long time now.

If it goes up significantly, it will be a miserable grind. Instead of increasing the XP required, you should seriously consider leaving it at 6 million. That way we'd have the option of playing different content with each ER, and that would keep it fresh. I'd be far more interested in continuing to play & ER if I didn't have to grind the same stuff forever, over & over.

[EllisDee37]

If it goes up significantly, it will be a miserable grind. Instead of increasing the XP required, you should seriously consider leaving it at 6 million. That way we'd have the option of playing different content with each ER, and that would keep it fresh. I'd be far more interested in continuing to play & ER if I didn't have to grind the same stuff forever, over & over.

I think rebalancing the curve so that it takes 7.5 million xp to get to 30 would be a reasonable compromise. (Right now it's 6.6 million to get to 28.)

Raising it significantly -- which IMO is anything above 8 million to get to 30 -- does nothing except punish newer players. That seems counterproductive to me.

[FranOhmsford]

/signed.
This.



Sanity?

I don't know that I'll quit, but I'll certainly consider if it's worth the pain to continue with this. I may just decide to do what alot of my guildies are already doing: They show up once a week for the guild runs, and that's about the only time they play.

A whole bunch of players have gotten many ER's done on their toons, and they only needed 6 million xp to do it. It seems rather unfair to now require more xp to achieve the same goal. The fact that it's been known for some time that the cap would go up does not change this. 6 million has been the status quo for a very long time now.

If it goes up significantly, it will be a miserable grind. Instead of increasing the XP required, you should seriously consider leaving it at 6 million. That way we'd have the option of playing different content with each ER, and that would keep it fresh. I'd be far more interested in continuing to play & ER if I didn't have to grind the same stuff forever, over & over.

I think rebalancing the curve so that it takes 7.5 million xp to get to 30 would be a reasonable compromise.

(Right now it's 6.6 million to get to 28.)

OK well there's gonna be 10 Epic levels instead of 8.

So why not simply change the xp per level from 21-30 to be 660,000 per level.

That would make 20-21 not so silly quick and make 27-28 or 28-29 or 29-30 not so long!

It would also remove the issue of latecomers requiring a much worse grind than those who've already completed all destinies and at least half their E-TRs!


Also - When the Cap goes up to 30 players who've earned enough XP to be 29 will be able to level instantly - Those who've earned enough XP to be 30 {are capped 28} will be 1xp away from being able to take 30.
Lvl 21/22 players obviously shouldn't be de-levelled though.

[Uska]

A character at cap 28 would need 1.5M to 29 and 1.65M to 30 (3.15M additional exp). Is there any reason to expect this progression to change?

They mentioned that they might reduce the curve