Good Packs for an opener account?

[btolson]

Looking for suggestions on what packs would be best to pick up for an opener (dual-box) account.

Necro series seems like a good bet, any others?

[Connman]

Tangleroot kicks down 99 favor and all the box has to do is sit at the entrance to the quest.

[EllisDee37]

Start with low level packs and work your way up.

Avoid the four packs that come with MotU and grab Shadowfell+MotU during Black Friday sales.

[Thalone]

Tangleroot kicks down 99 favor and all the box has to do is sit at the entrance to the quest.

Actually, for the two-parters, you have to navigate the opener into the second part or it won't be flagged for the subsequent ones--at least that's the way it was last time I had to dualbox them.

On topic... Is the objective to open quests for XP farming or for grabbing favour on first-/second-lifers? If you just play one character, it might be better just to TR it twice and then you can just open elite by default, and do one-and-done lives (there's enough XP to cap this way if you've unlocked all content).

Alternatively, if you already have elites unlocked on your main account, and are only soloing alts when dualboxing, here's a little trick... You can step into the quest on your main account to start an elite instance. Your second account steps into any quest, pops a hireling, and invites your main. You log off your main, and log on the character that needs the elite completion. Your secondary account invites the main account, and since the hireling counts as in the original party, the instance doesn't get reset and you can step in with your new main. This'll work for anything where you don't need your original elite opener on your main to be flagged.

Or are you dualboxing to farm loot?

[btolson]

Wasn't really planning to farm loot.

Mostly looking to open quests for various first/second lifers (of which I still have several planned).

However I'd like to prioritize this account's packs for red-boxing certain quests to cherry-pick XP, hence why I mentioned necro series in the OP.


I guess I could rephrase/narrow this thread as "which content is best to red-box?"

[Connman]

Delera's Part two is a staple. On the necro, funny story, I grabbed one of my wife's alts while she was at work and got all three of the crypts opened. Yeah, she unlocked artificer and guess which toon got deleted. QQ

[Dreppo]

I would suggest the opener account have Necro I and Necro II, to be able to open Bloody Crypt and Shadow Crypt respectively. These are high xp levelling quests that have an annoying re-flag mechanic. You might also pick up Necro III for Cursed Crypt, but that's not as essential as the other two. The priority is actually II, then I, then III.

[Lonnbeimnech]

Wasn't really planning to farm loot.

Mostly looking to open quests for various first/second lifers (of which I still have several planned).

However I'd like to prioritize this account's packs for red-boxing certain quests to cherry-pick XP, hence why I mentioned necro series in the OP.


I guess I could rephrase/narrow this thread as "which content is best to red-box?"

Delera's 2 and 4, shadow crypt, bloody crypt.

3bc is really, really good xp, if you can window farm it. Running back and forth to turn in the quest really slows it down a lot. So park the dualbox with the quest so the main account can just go in and do elite then hard then norm

[slarden]

You probably want to focus on quests that have great xp but require reflagging like Necro 1-2.

For me, I would just find a way to fit $7.50/month into my budget for VIP so you don't have to worry about it. It might still be worth an opener account for some quests, but not to open on elite. Loosen up those purse strings a bit.

[morkahn82]

I never got the point why I would multibox.

[EllisDee37]

For me, I would just find a way to fit $7.50/month into my budget for VIP so you don't have to worry about it. It might still be worth an opener account for some quests, but not to open on elite. Loosen up those purse strings a bit.

I quite enjoy having my dual-box account, and it's nice beyond just opening elite. It also means I have a full trapper at all* levels I can dual-box in for whatever quest, as well as a second account to handle "stand on four plates" mechanics.

Plus, for me, I would never agree to a permanent, recurring charge. That concept is just foreign to me. If you add up all my costs since starting back in Feb 2011, I've spent what averages out to around $5.46 per month. I don't think the $2 savings is particularly great. What I do think is great is that I can stop paying money at any time and still have a largely complete game to play. By contrast, once your VIP lapses you're screwed.

*So far my dual-box account is only "complete" through level 12 quests, but I just bought Gianthold, Necro4, Harbinger and Reign and rolled up a new alt for handling 13-15.

[morkahn82]

I quite enjoy having my dual-box account, and it's nice beyond just opening elite. It also means I have a full trapper at all* levels I can dual-box in for whatever quest, as well as a second account to handle "stand on four plates" mechanics.

Plus, for me, I would never agree to a permanent, recurring charge. That concept is just foreign to me. If you add up all my costs since starting back in Feb 2011, I've spent what averages out to $5.46 per month. I don't think the $2 savings is particularly great. What I do think is great is that I can stop paying money at any time and still have a largely complete game to play. By contrast, once your VIP lapses you're screwed.

*So far my dual-box account is only "complete" through level 12 quests, but I just bought Gianthold, Necro4, Harbinger and Reign and rolled up a new alt for handling 13-15.

I use the lfm and hirelings for the same reasons.

[EllisDee37]

I use the lfm and hirelings for the same reasons.

I never understood why someone would spend TP on hirelings or would wait around for an LFM to fill.

Also, you missed the big point in the middle about how I can stop paying money at any time and still have a largely complete game to play.

[morkahn82]

I never understood why someone would spend TP on hirelings or would wait around for an LFM to fill.

Also, you missed the big point in the middle about how I can stop paying money at any time and still have a largely complete game to play.

I have a premium membership too and do not buy hirelings by tp.

ddo is a multiplayer game otherwise you wouldnt need those workaround to get the quests done. And grouping solved all those issues besides waiting for a party to fill. it is cool that dualboxing solved that issue for you. I strongly recommend turbine to encourage grouping by boni in near future so that more lfms will be available like in the bonus days.

[btolson]

Delera's 2 and 4, shadow crypt, bloody crypt.

3bc is really, really good xp, if you can window farm it. Running back and forth to turn in the quest really slows it down a lot. So park the dualbox with the quest so the main account can just go in and do elite then hard then norm

Good insight on 3BC.

Looks like I'll be spending my 1600 TP on Delera's, Necro 1 & 2, and 3BC. Thanks to all who offered suggestions.

[EllisDee37]

I have a premium membership too and do not buy hirelings by tp.

If you don't buy hirelings with TP, you're short two bodies for the "stand on four plates" mechanic. (Which is what you said you used hirelings for.)

As for solving all problems except waiting to fill, standing around waiting is my #1 most hated issue with multiplayer games. And it really doesn't matter what bonuses Turbine offers, nothing is going to help my Sharn Syndicate or Restless Isles groups fill in the middle of the night. Fortunately I am no longer at the mercy of random strangers to run quests.

[Tscheuss]

If you don't buy hirelings with TP, you're short two bodies for the "stand on four plates" mechanic. (Which is what you said you used hirelings for.)

As for solving all problems except waiting to fill, standing around waiting is my #1 most hated issue with multiplayer games. And it really doesn't matter what bonuses Turbine offers, nothing is going to help my Sharn Syndicate or Restless Isles groups fill in the middle of the night. Fortunately I am no longer at the mercy of random strangers to run quests.

[morkahn82]

If you don't buy hirelings with TP, you're short two bodies for the "stand on four plates" mechanic. (Which is what you said you used hirelings for.)

Grouping. Inviting other players into your party. use the lfm. You do not even have to wait a party to fill. Just one additional player with another hireling does the job. I am actually bored of running a quest alone, especially if I can not solve it alone (i.e. without hirelings, without workarounds). I know you cant determine from my posts, but ingame I got a strong social streak.

[Uidolon]

I never got the point why I would multibox.

You can use it to enter with Y character->enter with X -> leave with Y -> complete with only X.
You can then repeat that quest infinitely and it lets friends who tag along do the same also repeat it infinitely its not just you that benefit but your friends in party also.
Mostly it would be to make a TR smoother and faster, the benefits are obvious but its a very longterm thing but you seem to consider it just for people who want to solo that is not at all the case this is great for a team of TRs to have someone with a second account opener.