Devs please fix Creeping Cold and Creeping Doom to not overwrite other druids'

[Vooduspyce]

As it stands, if there are multiple druids in the party, they will erase each other's Creeping Cold, Greater Creeping Cold and Creeping Doom when cast on the same mob. I believe these are the only dots in the game that behave this way. It is especially problematic for Creeping Cold and Greater Creeping Cold since they are backloaded spells and therefore if overwritten, the biggest damage is lost. Please change so that multiple druids aren't competing against each other for dotting.

It would also be nice if druids didn't overwrite their own dots, but at very least should not overwrite other druids' dots.

[Michele]

I agree.
I'm very disappointed when I'm landing a greater creeping cold with 900 spell power, and another druid overwrites it with his 400 spell power greater creeping cold.

Lucky for me, the only druids I see are wolf melee dps builds (it's very rare to see caster druids in Cannith).

[NoZerg]

I am actually trying something unusual with my druid, have been told never seen it before.
Elven arcane archer.
I take very little out of the druid trees and as an archer it allows me to stay back and play healer and cast spells. I build my wolf to pull agro and most healers do not think of the pets.
It also works well for soloing, I can peg mobs one at a time before they know I am there.
In elemental form I can still use a bow, so just gotta get lvl to take it.

[CThruTheEgo]

/signed

[Caprice]

Also /signed. This is very annoying.

[Silverleafeon]

/signed

It used to knock off Niac's Dots too.
So, its definately bugged.

[silinteresting]

please do as op asks

your friend sil

[burlicconi]

I agree.
I'm very disappointed when I'm landing a greater creeping cold with 900 spell power, and another druid overwrites it with his 400 spell power greater creeping cold.

Lucky for me, the only druids I see are wolf melee dps builds (it's very rare to see caster druids in Cannith).

I play in Cannith with pure druid caster, but I always play with my 2 friends...
And yes, it is very annoying when I override my own Creeeping Cold spells.
At least, higher damage should not be overriden- highest damage takes place insted of old one...

[Caprice]

And yes, it is very annoying when I override my own Creeeping Cold spells.

I have a slight disagreement there - I think we should still be able to override our own DoTs and potentially lose DPS that way. My complaint is limited to multiple Druids overwriting each others' DoTs. It significantly limits the DPS done by a multi-Druid party/raid. Niac's and Eladar's were fixed for much the same reason, since having them overwrite each other made it undesirable to have more than 1 Wiz/Sorc in a party. The current situation also makes it much harder for Druids to tank bosses, since the DoTs are an important contribution to our threat generation (or at least mine, when I try).

[Vooduspyce]

I have a slight disagreement there - I think we should still be able to override our own DoTs and potentially lose DPS that way. My complaint is limited to multiple Druids overwriting each others' DoTs. It significantly limits the DPS done by a multi-Druid party/raid. Niac's and Eladar's were fixed for much the same reason, since having them overwrite each other made it undesirable to have more than 1 Wiz/Sorc in a party. The current situation also makes it much harder for Druids to tank bosses, since the DoTs are an important contribution to our threat generation (or at least mine, when I try).

It's kind of a pain to keep an examine window open to make sure we don't overwrite our own dots, but it's what I do to make sure

I just learned only about 4 months ago that you can hotkey examine, lolz.

[EllisDee37]

It used to knock off Niac's Dots too.

It still does.

Druid dots suppress everyone else's dots in the party, including wizards/sorcs.

Additionally, the Crushing Wave weapon proc has the same issue. It suppresses everyone's dots.

[Vooduspyce]

It still does.

Druid dots suppress everyone else's dots in the party, including wizards/sorcs.

I just had this conversation with someone last week and we tested and both niac's and creeping cold were working on mobs simultaneously. I know it was broken quite a while ago. Are you sure you have seen this recently? I will investigate further and update soon.

Update: ack!! I just tested and Creeping Cold and Greater Creeping Cold are removing Niac's Biting Cold!! I thought this was fixed. Creeping Cold and Greater Creeping Cold had no affect on Eladar's Electric Surge though.

Creeping Doom did not affect Niac's or Eladar's.

[Silverleafeon]

Wow, I thought they would have fixed the Niac's by now.

[EllisDee37]

I just had this conversation with someone last week and we tested and both niac's and creeping cold were working on mobs simultaneously. I know it was broken quite a while ago. Are you sure you have seen this recently? I will investigate further and update soon.

Update: ack!! I just tested and Creeping Cold and Greater Creeping Cold are removing Niac's Biting Cold!! I thought this was fixed. Creeping Cold and Greater Creeping Cold had no affect on Eladar's Electric Surge though.

Creeping Doom did not affect Niac's or Eladar's.

Yeah, sorry, I meant all cold-based dots.

[Vooduspyce]

I just had this conversation with someone last week and we tested and both niac's and creeping cold were working on mobs simultaneously. I know it was broken quite a while ago. Are you sure you have seen this recently? I will investigate further and update soon.

Update: ack!! I just tested and Creeping Cold and Greater Creeping Cold are removing Niac's Biting Cold!! I thought this was fixed. Creeping Cold and Greater Creeping Cold had no affect on Eladar's Electric Surge though.

Creeping Doom did not affect Niac's or Eladar's.

Did some additional testing. Part of the confusion in thinking that it was fixed is that it appears that Niac's can be successfully cast on a mob that has Creeping Cold/Greater Creeping Cold on it and it'll be fine. But when a mob already has Niac's on it, Creeping Cold/Greater Creeping Cold remove it

[Lerincho]

And while fixing druids allow pet enhancements that are supposed to be able to be on hotbar to actually.... appear on hotbar. Examples currently not able to be placed on pet hotbar Howl and Feed, but intimated, rage and hamstring all are able to be placed.

[General_Gronker]

Lucky for me, the only druids I see are wolf melee dps builds (it's very rare to see caster druids in Cannith).

This is what I play, but I also use the heck out of creeping cold. Glad I looked at this thread, since I didn't know there were issues with it.