Character Builder Lite

[EllisDee37]

Character Builder Lite is designed with a minimalist philosophy -- thus the "Lite" -- and is intended to be useful for any DDO player, from new players to seasoned vets.

This thread was created early in the development of the utility, soliciting feedback and suggestions. Discussion of the most recent major version (3.0) begins in post 779.

Two companion programs are included the the download zip, as well as complete source code for all the tools in the SourceCode zip:
- Cannith Crafting Builder Lite
- Compendium Lite


Downloads

Files are hosted on Google Drive. When you open one of these download links you'll see a list of the zip file contents. There's a little down-arrow button at the top of the screen for downloading.

DDO Lite Tools 2019-05-25

Source Code 2019-05-25 (VB6)

All Downloads

NOTE: For some reason, my Windows 10 is no longer letting these programs open web links unless I set them to Run as Administrator, so if you click a link and nothing happens, try running as admin. (Right-click the exe files, choose Properties, click the Compatibility tab, then check the box at the bottom that says Run as Administrator.)


New Installation

Unzip the "DDO Lite Tools" zip anywhere under your Documents folder.

NOTE: If you save them anywhere else, you must right-click the exe files and set them to Run as Administrator, even if you're using an administrator account. Otherwise the character builder will crash when it tries to auto-save backup copies of the active build whenever you change screens.


Updating

Copy the "DDO Lite Tools" zip into the same folder where the exe files are. Then right-click the zip file and choose "Extract Here." Answer Yes to All when asked to overwrite. That's all you need to do.


Compatibility

Written in pure VB6 native code, all programs should run on any version of Windows, no installation required.

Mac and Linux users have reportedly been able to run it using Wine with the following tweaks:

winetricks vb6run
winetricks native_oleaut32
winetricks allfonts


Source Code

There are no dependencies (references and components) of any kind used in any of the programs; just pure native VB6. if you can run VB6 you should be able to compile all programs without issue.

The source code zip also contains the many hundreds of bitmaps and icons used in all programs. (Most of them are for the crafting planner.)

[EllisDee37]

Updated May 25th, 2019



Character Builder Lite v3.1.5 complete release notes:

• NEW: Tiefling
• NEW: Tiefling Scoundrel
• NEW: Inquisitive global tree

Compendium v1.3.1 complete release notes:

• NEW: Masterminds of Sharn
  • Quests, Sagas, and Wilderness area
• Added Schism Shard Crafting links to context menus for WPM, ToEE, and Tethyamar (quests and packs)
• Added Named Items link to context menu for Lost at Sea
• NEW: Abbreviate columns (Tools => Options)
  • Tools screen is a development version, not polished
  • Changing the font for the quests list works but is not saved

Cannith Crafting Builder Lite v3.0 release notes:

• (no changes)

Descriptions updated by wiki crawler:

• Aasimar Scourge Tier 3: Strike Down
• Angel of Vengeance Tier 4: Intense Faith
• Divine Disciple Tier 4: Prophetic Zenith
• Divine Disciple Tier 5: Prophetic Zenith
• Drow Tier 0: Spell Resistance
• Eldritch Knight (Sorcerer) Tier 0: Eldritch Strike
• Eldritch Knight (Sorcerer) Tier 0: Spellsword
• Eldritch Knight (Sorcerer) Tier 2: Improved Shield
• Eldritch Knight (Sorcerer) Tier 4: Force's Point
• Eldritch Knight (Wizard) Tier 0: Eldritch Strike
• Eldritch Knight (Wizard) Tier 1: Arcane Siphon
• Eldritch Knight (Wizard) Tier 2: Improved Shield
• Enlightened Spirit Tier 0: Eldritch Aura
• Enlightened Spirit Tier 0: Celestial Spirit
• Enlightened Spirit Tier 3: Eldritch Burst
• Enlightened Spirit Tier 5: Spirit Blast
• Falconry Tier 4: Deadly Instinct
• Falconry Tier 5: Death from Above
• Half-Orc Tier 2: Lock Bash
• Harper Agent Tier 2: Know the Angles
• Kensei Tier 0: Power Surge
• Kensei Tier 0: One Cut
• Kensei Tier 0: Alacrity
• Kensei Tier 5: Deadly Strike
• Knight of the Chalice Tier 0: Slayer of Evil III
• Knight of the Chalice Tier 3: Vigor of Life
• Knight of the Chalice Tier 4: Vigor of Life
• Knight of the Chalice Tier 5: Vigor of Life
• Nature's Protector Tier 5: Force of Nature
• Nature's Warrior Tier 4: Ferocity
• Ninja Spy Tier 0: Diversion
• Occult Slayer Tier 5: Vampiric Bond
• Pale Master Tier 3: Cloak of Night
• Radiant Servant Tier 5: Positive Energy Aura
• Renegade Mastermaker Tier 2: Converter
• Sacred Defender Tier 4: Reinforced Defense
• Sacred Defender Tier 4: Swift Defense
• Spellsinger Tier 4: Sustaining Song
• Spellsinger Tier 4: Frolic
• Spellsinger Tier 4: Song of Arcane Might
• Stalwart Defender Tier 0: Stalwart Defense
• Stalwart Defender Tier 4: Swift Defense
• Tainted Scholar Tier 1: Feigned Health
• Thief-Acrobat Tier 0: Cartwheel Charge
• War Soul Tier 5: Divine Vessel
• War Soul Tier 5: Divine Intervention
• Warchanter Tier 0: Skaldic
• Warchanter Tier 0: Weapon Training
• Warchanter Tier 0: Song of Heroism
• Warchanter Tier 0: Fighting Spirit
• Warchanter Tier 0: Victory Song
• Warchanter Tier 0: Warmaster
• Warchanter Tier 2: Boast
• Warchanter Tier 2: Words of Encouragement
• Warchanter Tier 2: Arcane Shield Chant
• Warchanter Tier 3: Ironskin Chant
• Warchanter Tier 3: High Spirits
• Warchanter Tier 3: Frozen Fury
• Warchanter Tier 4: Reckless Chant
• Warchanter Tier 5: Movement Booster
• Warchanter Tier 5: Chant of Power
• Warchanter Tier 5: Spinning Ice
• Warchanter Tier 5: Kingly Recovery
• Warpriest Tier 5: Divine Vessel
• Warpriest Tier 5: Divine Intervention
• Water Savant Tier 0: Hypothermia
• Exalted Angel Tier 4: Blood and Radiance
• Exalted Angel Tier 6: Divine Wrath
• Fatesinger Tier 6: Turn of the Tide
• Fury of the Wild Tier 3: Ward Against Weird
• Legendary Dreadnought Tier 1: Attack Boost
• Legendary Dreadnought Tier 2: Damage Boost

[EllisDee37]

Here's a quick demo of both programs, essentially just showing the main screens. Forgive my cheapo freeware screen capture program; it leaves artifacts in several places, and freaks out (artifact armageddon) whenever any scrolling happens.




Here's sample output for both a character build and a gearset:


Kensei Warpriest
12/8 Fighter/Cleric
Human


Level Order

1. Fighter. . . . .6. Fighter. . . . 11. Cleric. . . . .16. Fighter
2. Fighter. . . . .7. Cleric. . . . .12. Fighter . . . .17. Fighter
3. Cleric. . . . . 8. Fighter . . . .13. Cleric . . . . 18. Fighter
4. Fighter. . . . .9. Cleric. . . . .14. Fighter . . . .19. Fighter
5. Cleric. . . . .10. Fighter . . . .15. Cleric . . . . 20. Cleric


Stats
. . . . . . . .28pt . . 32pt . . 34pt . . 36pt . . Level Up
. . . . . . . .---- . . ---- . . ---- . . ---- . . --------
Strength. . . . 16. . . .18. . . .18. . . .18. . . .4: STR
Dexterity . . . .8. . . . 8. . . . 8. . . . 8. . . .8: STR
Constitution. . 14. . . .14. . . .14. . . .16. . . 12: STR
Intelligence. . 12. . . .12. . . .12. . . .12. . . 16: STR
Wisdom. . . . . 10. . . . 8. . . .10. . . . 8. . . 20: STR
Charisma. . . . 14. . . .14. . . .14. . . .14. . . 24: STR
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .28: STR

Skills
. . . . . F. F. C .F .C. F. C .F .C. F. C .F .C. F. C .F .F .F .F .C
. . . . . 1. 2. 3 .4 .5. 6. 7 .8 .9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
. . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
Concent . . .1 .4. . .3. 1. 1 .1 .1. 1. 1 .1 .1. 1. 1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1. 23
Heal. . . 2. . . . . .1. . .3. . .3. . .3. . .3. . .3. . . . 1. . .3. 22
UMD . . . 2. . . . 1. . .1 . . 1. . .1 . . 1. . .1 . . 1. 1. . .1 . . 11
Jump. . . 4. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4
Balance . 1. 1. . .1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3
Tumble. . 1. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1
. . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
. . . . .16. 4. 4 .4 .4. 4. 4 .4 .4. 4. 4 .4 .4. 4. 4 .4 .4 .4 .4 .4


Feats

.1. . . . : Power Attack
.1 Human. : Least Dragonmark: Passage
.1 Fighter: Cleave
.2 Fighter: Stunning Blow
.3. . . . : Weapon Focus: Slashing
.3 Deity. : Follower of: Sovereign Host
.6. . . . : Great Cleave
.6 Fighter: Weapon Specialization: Slashing
.9. . . . : Empower Healing Spell
10 Fighter: Improved Critical: Slashing
12. . . . : Extend Spell
13 Deity. : Unyielding Sovereignty
14 Fighter: Greater Weapon Focus: Slashing
15. . . . : Two Handed Fighting
17 Fighter: Improved Two Handed Fighting
18. . . . : Greater Two Handed Fighting
19 Fighter: Greater Weapon Specialization: Slashing
21 Epic . : Tactical Mastery
24 Epic . : Overwhelming Critical
26 Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
27 Epic . : Heavy Armor Master
28 Destiny: Perfect Two Handed Fighting
29 Destiny: Dire Charge
30 Epic . : Tactical Combatant
30 Legend : Scion of: Arborea OR Astral Plane


Spells

Cleric

1. Cure Light Wounds, Nightshield, Remove Fear, Protection from Evil, Divine Favor, <Any>
2. Cure Moderate Wounds, Resist Energy, Eagle's Splendor, <Any>, <Any>
3. Cure Serious Wounds, Magic Circle Against Evil, Protection from Energy, Prayer, <Any>
4. Cure Critical Wounds, Death Ward, Freedom of Movement, <Any>

Enhancements (80 AP)

Kensei (35 AP)

• Kensei Focus: Axes, Spiritual Bond, Strike with No Thought, Power Surge
  1. Extra Action Boost III, Weapon Group Specialization, Haste Boost III
  2. Tactics III, Weapon Group Specialization, Ascetic Training: Conditioning I
  3. Weapon Group Specialization
  4. Opportunity Attack, Weapon Group Specialization
  5. A Good Death: Melee, Weapon Master, One with the Blade, Deadly Strike, Keen Edge

Warpriest (22 AP)

• Smite Foe
  1. Divine Might III, Toughness III
  2. Smite Weakness, Wall of Steel III, Inflame III
  3. Inflame: Energy Absorption III, Strength
  4. Ameliorating Strike

Stalwart Defender (14 AP)

• Toughness, Stalwart Defense
  1. Durable Defense III, Stalwart Defensive Mastery III
  2. Resilient Defense III
  3. Strong Defense III

Human (9 AP)

• Damage Boost
  1. Dragonmark Focus: Orien I, Action Surge: Strength III, Improved Recovery
  2. Lesser Dragonmark: Dimension Door

Leveling Guide

1. Hum0 Damage Boost; Hum1 Dragonmark Focus: Orien I; Hum1 Improved Recovery
2. Ken0 Kensei Focus: Axes; Ken1 Haste Boost I, II, III
3. Hum1 Action Surge: Strength I; Hum2 Lesser Dragonmark: Dimension Door; War0 Smite Foe
4. War1 Toughness I, II; Ken1 Weapon Group Specialization
5. War1 Toughness III; War1 Divine Might I, II, III
6. War2 Smite Weakness; War2 Wall of Steel I, II
7. War0 Resilience of Battle; War2 Wall of Steel III; War2 Inflame I, II
8. War3 Strength; War2 Inflame III; War3 Inflame: Energy Absorption I
9. War3 Inflame: Energy Absorption II; War4 Ameliorating Strike; Ken0 Spiritual Bond
10. Ken2 Weapon Group Specialization; Ken2 Ascetic Training: Conditioning I; Ken0 Strike with No Thought
11. Ken3 Weapon Group Specialization; Ken2 Tactics I
12. Ken2 Tactics II, III
13. Ken1 Extra Action Boost I, II
14. Ken4 Weapon Group Specialization; Ken1 Extra Action Boost III
15. Ken4 Opportunity Attack; Ken2 Ascetic Training: Conditioning II; Ken5 One with the Blade
16. Ken5 Keen Edge; Ken5 A Good Death: Melee; Ken5 Weapon Master; Ken5 Deadly Strike
17. SD0 Toughness; SD1 Item Defense I; SD1 Durable Defense I, II
18. SD1 Durable Defense III; SD0 Stalwart Defense; SD2 Resilient Defense I, II
19. (Bank 4 AP)
20. Reset All Trees

Destiny (24 AP)

Legendary Dreadnought

1. Legendary Tactics III, Extra Action Boost III, Strength
2. Momentum Swing III, Imp. Power Attack, Strength
3. Lay Waste, Critical Damage I
4. (none)
5. Devastating Critical
6. Master's Blitz, Headman's Chop

Twists of Fate (15 fate points)

1. Sense Weakness (Tier 4 Fury)
2. Rejuvenation Cocoon (Tier 1 Primal)
3. Boulder Toss (Tier 1 Fury)

Gear

Head: ML34 Sheltering 38 Helmet of Accuracy 23 w/Ins. Fortification 79
Eyes: ML34 Wisdom 15 Goggles of True Seeing w/Ins. Seeker 7
Neck: ML34 Constitution 15 Necklace of Devotion 159 w/Ins. MRR 18
Back: ML34 Charisma 15 Cloak of Dodge Bonus 15 w/Ins. Charisma 7
Wrist: Greensteel Smoke
Hand: ML34 Melee Alacrity 15 Gloves of Deadly 12 w/Ins. Accuracy 11
Waist: ML34 Doublestrike 17 Belt of Stunning 17 w/Ins. Constitution 7
Feet: ML34 Seeker 15 Boots of Strength 15 w/Ins. Combat Mastery 6
Ring: Epic Ring of the Stalker
Ring: ML34 Wizardry 310 Ring of False Life 57 w/Ins. PRR 18
Trinket: ML34 Resistance 12 Trinket of Armor Piercing 23 w/Ins. Devotion 79
Body: ML34 Combat Mastery 12 Armor of Healing Amp 61 w/Parrying 7

[Impaqt]

I am a big fan of less is more.

This seems like a great interface and output for the more advanced ddo player/character builder.

I wish I had some good suggestions on enhancements as I'm sure that will be very difficult to get squared away. Feel free to contact me though if you need someone to do some testing.

[Stoner81]

I really like what you got going in post #3 dude and I am really liking the idea of having the levelling order as an optional thing so you can just list the final build AP distribution. I have no idea about how to do the enhancements the only idea I can think of is why do it something similar to how the output in post #3 is like? Other than that not a clue

Stoner81.

[Munkenmo]

I like how quick n easy this is to use over Ron's current version.

I know you said you wouldn't distribute it, but should you change your mind I'd love to get my mits on it (even without enhancements), it's a lot quicker than the manual spreadsheet layout I work with.

[EllisDee37]

Updated April 21st, 2018



Character Builder Lite v3.0.2 complete release notes:

Artificer Pass

• NEW: Renegade Mastermaker tree added
• Combat Expertise now available as an artificer bonus feat
• Empower Healing Spell now available as a regular or bonus feat
• Admixture: Cure Critical Wounds added as a level 5 spell
• Arcanotechnician Tier 1: Uncaring Master replaced with Arcane Skills
• Arcanotechnician ML18 Core (Critical Admixture) replaced with Runic Efficacy

Druid Pass

• NEW: Nature's Protector tree added
• Nature's Warrior tree updated
• Season's Herald tree updated
• Stat templates updated (Caster, Wolf, Bear)
• Natural Fighting Feats updated, and now require Druid 3 instead of 9
• Spell descriptions updated (spell descriptions aren't crawled)
• Jaws of Winter moves from spell level 7 to 6

Stats Screen

• NEW: Stat templates can be manually customized
  
  • See Help on Stats screen for detailed information

Data Changes

• Feats
  • Improved Construct Essence now does what Construct Exemplar used to
  • Construct Exemplar now grants +20 repair amp and +10 MRR, no prereqs except ML21
  • Master of the Wilds now includes Salt Ray
• Spells
  • Camouflage and Mass Camouflage bonus type changed from Circumstance to Determination
• Enhancements
  • Air Savant Tier 5: Wind Dance costs 1 AP, not 2
  • Vistani Tier 2: Haste Boost has 3 ranks, not 1
  • Half-Elf Tier 2: Dilettante Special Ability: Improved Recovery is anti-req for Shintao tree

Compendium v1.1.4 release notes:

• NEW: Disciples of Rage adventure pack added
• "Skip this Quest" now works again
• Stat tomes on the Character screen now go to 8
• Riding the Storm Out is base favor 10, not 9
• Added Ravenloft saga xp totals
• Corrected Epic Barovia level range and wilderness xp

Cannith Crafting Builder Lite v2.1 release notes: (data changes only)

• Parrying goes on Shield Extra

Descriptions updated by wiki crawler:

• Aasimar Tier 4: Divine Form
• Angel of Vengeance Tier 0: Ascendancy
• Arcanotechnician Tier 0: Palliative Admixture
• Arcanotechnician Tier 1: Arcane Skills
• Assassin Tier 0: Lethality
• Assassin Tier 1: Poison Strikes
• Battle Engineer Tier 3: Shatter Defenses
• Battle Engineer Tier 4: Battle Mastery
• Battle Engineer Tier 5: Thunder-Shock
• Dragonborn Tier 4: Memory of Flight
• Frenzied Berserker Tier 3: Blood Trail
• Gnome Tier 2: Lesser Dragonmark of Scribing
• Gnome Tier 3: Greater Dragonmark of Scribing
• Half-Elf Tier 2: Improved Dilettante
• Half-Orc Tier 4: Brutality
• Henshin Mystic Tier 0: Riddle of Fire
• Henshin Mystic Tier 0: Ki Bolt
• Henshin Mystic Tier 0: Sounding Staff
• Henshin Mystic Tier 0: Incinerating Wave
• Henshin Mystic Tier 0: Cauldron of Flame
• Henshin Mystic Tier 0: Serenity
• Human Tier 1: Action Surge
• Kensei Tier 0: Spiritual Bond
• Radiant Servant Tier 2: Divine Healing
• Sacred Defender Tier 0: Glorious Stand
• Sacred Defender Tier 4: Spellshield Aura
• Shintao Tier 0: Touch the Void Dragon
• Shintao Tier 0: To Seek Perfection
• Vanguard Tier 5: Shield Charge
• Vistani Knife Fighter Tier 2: Bleeding Cuts
• Vistani Knife Fighter Tier 2: Weapon Versatility
• Vistani Knife Fighter Tier 3: Deadly Blades
• Vistani Knife Fighter Tier 4: Double Daggers
• Warforged Tier 4: Warforged Resolve
• Warpriest Tier 5: Divine Vessel
• Divine Crusader Tier 5: Celestial Champion
• Fury of the Wild Tier 4: Gird Against Demons
• Fury of the Wild Tier 6: Unbridled Fury
• Legendary Dreadnought Tier 5: Advancing Blows

[EllisDee37]

New version is up, release notes in previous post.

This is mostly a bare-bones update for the druid and artie passes and adding the new pack to the compendium, plus data corrections that have been pointed out since the previous update. No real feature changes other than adding in some support for customizing stat templates in the character builder.

[jayboss1]

Mastermaker and Converter have only 1 rank and cost 1AP

The builder has them at 3 ranks and Mastermaker costing 2AP per rank

[EllisDee37]

Mastermaker and Converter have only 1 rank and cost 1AP

The builder has them at 3 ranks and Mastermaker costing 2AP per rank

Thanks much for the quick heads-up. I've fixed those and re-uploaded both the programs and source code.

[LightBear]

I've been working on a character builder since Christmas, and it's coming along pretty well so far. Adopting a minimalist philosophy -- thus the "Lite" -- it's geared toward people with a decent working knowledge of the game. Truth be told, I envision using it with ddowiki open in another window.

Right now at this moment I'm still a week away from being able to let anyone else play around with it, but in the meantime here's a couple demo videos showing how it works:

Part 1 (Classes, Stats, Skills and Feats)

Part 2 (Spells and Destiny)

Both videos are 1920x1080. You may have to manually increase the resolution if youtube defaults to lower than 1080.

Suggestions and ideas welcome. Particularly regarding enhancements, since I do not yet have a clear vision of how to implement that screen. One thing I know for sure is that I want to support enhancement resets in the middle of leveling.

Looks very slick so far.
Could use some icons of the classes to make it a bit more clear, a single letter can be confusing.
(Barbarian vs Bard, Ranger vs Rogue, Favored Soul vs Fighter)

[Stoner81]

Looks very slick so far.
Could use some icons of the classes to make it a bit more clear, a single letter can be confusing.
(Barbarian vs Bard, Ranger vs Rogue, Favored Soul vs Fighter)

That's not a bad idea at all

Bb = Barb
Ba = Bard
F = Fighter
FvS = Favored Soul
Ra = Ranger
Ro = Rogue
A = Artificer

I think most of the others don't have clashes that I can think of off the top of my head.

Stoner81.

[EllisDee37]

Looks very slick so far.
Could use some icons of the classes to make it a bit more clear, a single letter can be confusing.
(Barbarian vs Bard, Ranger vs Rogue, Favored Soul vs Fighter)

Each class is assigned 3 letters. When you pick your classes, the primary class always gets its first choice letter. (The first letter of its name.) The second class then goes through its three letters looking for a unique one. Then the third class does the same, looking for something not picked by the first two. Here's the lists for all the classes:

Artificer: A, T, I
Barbarian: B, R, N
Bard: B, D, R
Cleric: C, E, L
Druid: D, U, R
Favored Soul: F, V, S (heh)
Fighter: F, G, T
Monk: M, O, K
Paladin: P, D, N
Ranger: R, N, G
Rogue: R, O, G
Sorcerer: S, O, C
Wizard: W, Z, I

Note that images aren't a viable solution because the forum output is formatted the same way, and can only use letters.

EDIT: I'm currently adding data integrity checks, which (attempts to) resolve all "pointers" in the data files. (Granted feats, enhancement prereqs, etc...) This is super helpful for data entry, but adding this logic is slowing me down. The logic isn't overly tough, but keeping track of all the relevant info to display to the user when errors are found is tricky.

[EllisDee37]

Not easily testable, can anyone tell me definitively:

Does Superior Weapon Focus require Greater Weapon Specialization?

Here it says it only requires Greater Focus. Here it says it requires Greater Focus and Greater Specialization.

[Failedlegend]

Each class is assigned 3 letters. When you pick your classes, the primary class always gets its first choice letter. (The first letter of its name.) The second class then goes through its three letters looking for a unique one. Then the third class does the same, looking for something not picked by the first two. Here's the lists for all the classes:

Artificer: A, T, I
Barbarian: B, R, N
Bard: B, D, R
Cleric: C, E, L
Druid: D, U, R
Favored Soul: F, V, S (heh)
Fighter: F, G, T
Monk: M, O, K
Paladin: P, D, N
Ranger: R, N, G
Rogue: R, O, G
Sorcerer: S, O, C
Wizard: W, Z, I

Is it possible to change it to 2-3 letters as this way seems to be quite confusing...so like lthis

Artficer: Ar or Art
Barbarian: Bb or Brb
Bard: Bd, Brd
Cleric: Cl. Clr
Druid: Dr. Drd
Favored Soul: FS, FvS
Fighter: Fi, Fgt
Monk: Mo, Mnk
Paladin: Pl, Pal
Ranger: Ra, Rng
Rogue: Rg, Rog
Sorcerer: Sr, Sor
Wiz: Wz, Wiz

Obviously 3 letters is far more recognizable but might not fit into your design.

[EllisDee37]

Is it possible to change it to 2-3 letters as this way seems to be quite confusing...so like lthis

Two-letters is a possibility; three would make the skills output too wide.

But could you give me an example of an actual build where the one-letter technique described might be confusing? Remember that you're not interpreting the letter in terms of all classes. Only in terms of the classes that are actually part of the build.

[Failedlegend]

Two-letters is a possibility; three would make the skills output too wide.

But could you give me an example of an actual build where the one-letter technique described might be confusing? Remember that you're not interpreting the letter in terms of all classes. Only in terms of the classes that are actually part of the build.

Well mainly trying to remember which letters represent the 2nd and 3rd class would be hard especially for people reading the output in the forums who are not familiar with the system (making giving feedback or reproducing the build hard)

The other issue is despite the 3 different letters some could still conflict ie. Rogue/Barbarian/Bard would be R R R if I'm not mistaken

There's no need to have a weird system like you have suggested just have the class show up with 2 letters, much easier to notice.

[Seikojin]

Yay! Congrats! I can't wait to try it!

[EllisDee37]

First bug identified for 1.0, but I don't think it's severe enough to warrant a new version. Instead, I've added a "Known Issues" section to the OP. The bug:

In the destiny screen, entering twists before choosing a main destiny will usually crash the program when you click away from twists back to the destiny tab. The bug is triggered when the destiny dropdown is blank on the destiny tab and not blank on the twist tab. To avoid the bug, always choose a destiny before doing twists. (You don't need to apply points to it.)

[Seikojin]

I really love the skill section and love the overall flow. Hopefully as you work on it more, you can expand some data it provides. Like the melee power, attack speed, etc. There seems to be plenty of real estate in the background window for it.