Quote Originally Posted by bbqzor View Post
T5 especially needs some work: not that I assume you havent looked at other T5s, but this one just doesnt hold up well, and worse isnt too appealing in its own right either. Where as someone might read air sorc and think "wow, lightning bolt and wind dance" or assassin and think "wow, assassinate and knife specialization" or arcane archer and think "wow, slayer arrow and runebow and moonbow" ... no one is going to read kotc and think "wow, a great cleave clone, a randomly triggered 3s stun vs one mob type, and a vorpal that allows a save". Its not that the tree (and paladin class, by extension) arent better. Its just still not there yet.
When you put it like that, there's no denying it.

Rework Holy Retribution to not cost turn undead at all, but instead give it a 15/12/10 second cooldown. And make it something simple, like a +?[W] bonus and some light damage. No save. That would at least be something.

Change the censure line to work on all evil mobs at tier 5. (The tier 4 can stay the same.)