Low server population?

[Nayus]

When the card event started I created a character on Argo to get my daily roll, ended up making a build I had been wanting to play for a while and leveling it, it was a comfortable ride up to level 8.

Then I gave up... the only groups I could ever join for that level were Bloody Crypt (and farmed it a lot) and Delera's. Checking the social panel there's like... a giantish gap from level 5~6 to 13 onwards and then even those mid-level pugs consist of a single person waiting for minutes before taking it down or going in the quest solo. Checked just now, there were 10 Level 9s online (I'm capped at 8, could just skip level 6s), 5 in a group (or solo with hires, who knows) meaning that if I could fill a full party I would be playing with all players available in the entire server for my level range, unless some level 8s decided to skip content as well and joined me, then I would be playing with half the total population for my level range.

Back to Thelanis. Is Argonnessen a newcomer server filled with new players playing Low-Level Content and Vets in Epics-only?

[waryJerry]

I wish people would stop judging server population based on the LFG queue alone. There are plenty of players who just don't use it, who enjoy leveling solo. It just seems to me that people who claim they can't level a toon without a group are either creating weak builds or are somewhat parasitic on the efforts of others, I would guess many players would disagree with me.

[Nayus]

I wish people would stop judging server population based on the LFG queue alone. There are plenty of players who just don't use it, who enjoy leveling solo. It just seems to me that people who claim they can't level a toon without a group are either creating weak builds or are somewhat parasitic on the efforts of others, I would guess many players would disagree with me.

Ya know, this is an online game, if I wanted to play alone I would open my Chess engine.

Maybe this link will be useful for you:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mmorpg.

[waryJerry]

You're being simplistic. Even soloists appreciate commentary and advice from others, a dynamic economy and an evolving game world.

[Nayus]

You're being simplistic. Even soloists appreciate commentary and advice from others, a dynamic economy and an evolving game world.

Yes yes, I appreciate your input...

[EllisDee37]

I wish people would stop judging server population based on the LFG queue alone. There are plenty of players who just don't use it, who enjoy leveling solo.

The OP did not judge the server population on the LFM panel. As stated in the OP, he opened up the Who tab and searched the entire server population, only to find a grand total of 10 level 9 players on the entire server.

To the OP, I'm on Argo and I mostly solo, and (ironically?) most of the in-game friends I have also mostly solo, so we largely don't even notice.

But very much agreed that even as a soloist I much prefer a thriving population to drive the auction house.

[TheLegendOfAra]

I'm playing on Argo(always have) and though I have noticed a dip in player population(mostly from friends leaving the game) It's not that bad.

Working on my TR right now in the past 3 days I've went from 13 to 17 with PUGs. Pugged Elite GH, Elite Necro IV, Elite Madness chain(Harbor), Elite underlevel LOD chain, and 3 or 4 full slayer runs for orchard and vale. Most of these were Pugged multiple times as well. I pugged 4 full elite GH sagas. Didn't have a problem filling any of these except getting an Elite GOP/Inferno done. Had to wait 15 minutes to fill those groups.

[toaftoaf]

khyber's population is down, fact. it is a shame thesee online game companies dont have the nads to show server population

[redspecter23]

I play on Argo and I solo nearly all the time when I'm xp'ing. It's faster, easier and less stressful for me to just jump into whatever I happen to need. I can afk whenever I want for as long as I want. If I have to leave the room while in the middle of the dungeon, I have nobody upset with me except me.

Yes, I could put up an LFM, but I'm just not seeing the point. All my needs are met by soloing. When I hit level 15-16 I'll start putting up some LFM's for Fleshmakers or GoP mostly because they are a bit trickier to solo on elite and I can actually use the help as I'm sure others can as well.

I totally understand that there are others that unlike myself enjoy the company of others while gaming. I can understand your position as someone that needs others in order to maximize your enjoyment of the game. Unfortunately the game has evolved over time to one that is just plain more efficient for many to solo. I'm playing for speed, efficiency and also have to consider time constraints and the need to drop at a moments notice to deal with family issues. I don't have time to put up an LFM and I don't have time to wait on anyone. If I'm running 2 minute harbor quests, I can't see the point in putting up an LFM if it's going to take longer than 30 seconds to fill. In, out, next quest.

At level 9, I'm running once and done level 7 quests. What I need will differ greatly from what other people need. I don't want to get an LFM going with people dropping in and out between quests. Selling, repairing, rebuffing, etc. I just want to go in the quest and run it. I have the freedom to do that when I'm on my own. When others are around, I'm a nice guy. I'll wait for them, but at the end of the day, I get less accomplished that way.

[EllisDee37]

Well said, redspecter.

I'm sort of the opposite of you; when I solo (which is most of the time) I'm running slow and savoring the quest, breaking all the barrels, doing all the optionals, uncovering every last inch of fog of war, and even occasionally reading the NPC dialogue. I like playing lazily slow, but sometimes the mood strikes me and I PUG or run with guildies/friends, and those runs are invariably very fast compared to my solo speed. Which is fun in its own way, but not really what I want to do that much of.

I particularly liked this bit you wrote:

I totally understand that there are others that unlike myself enjoy the company of others while gaming. I can understand your position as someone that needs others in order to maximize your enjoyment of the game.

I understand it as well, and do not begrudge people running in groups. What bothers me is that many who prefer groups take every chance they get to denigrate soloists, as well as the game itself. eg: "If I wanted to play a solo game, there are way better games than DDO." After seeing this attitude expressed enough times, I have lost all sympathy for people who prefer grouping and have no desire to give them any concessions that might impact my solo experience. If they want to group, there better games for that than DDO. heh.

[noble_pirate]

most probably Navus just tried to look for groups in wrong time.

i think any server have such dead windows - when no one online

[Sokól]

In the desert you can remember your name
'Cause there ain't no one for to give you no pain

[lyrecono]

When the card event started I created a character on Argo to get my daily roll, ended up making a build I had been wanting to play for a while and leveling it, it was a comfortable ride up to level 8.

Then I gave up... the only groups I could ever join for that level were Bloody Crypt (and farmed it a lot) and Delera's. Checking the social panel there's like... a giantish gap from level 5~6 to 13 onwards and then even those mid-level pugs consist of a single person waiting for minutes before taking it down or going in the quest solo. Checked just now, there were 10 Level 9s online (I'm capped at 8, could just skip level 6s), 5 in a group (or solo with hires, who knows) meaning that if I could fill a full party I would be playing with all players available in the entire server for my level range, unless some level 8s decided to skip content as well and joined me, then I would be playing with half the total population for my level range.

Back to Thelanis. Is Argonnessen a newcomer server filled with new players playing Low-Level Content and Vets in Epics-only?

Many vets are stuck in epics, farming past lives, they will return soon enough to their heroic lives once they are finnished , level cap gets raised or they get sick of the sub par eveningstar content.
Altough that won't increasy lfm's per say, many hide behind private channels, i'm in 3 that are very wel populateted, rather easy to fill groups. They are usualy by invite only though.

[LOOON375]

ESO just launched, and Im sure that has a ton to do with things.

[Noctus]

I solo all the single-digit levels, because the quests are so terribly easy. Pugging only means going slower, and often paying for the kindness of allowing someone into your group with 10% XP.

[Seikojin]

When the card event started I created a character on Argo to get my daily roll, ended up making a build I had been wanting to play for a while and leveling it, it was a comfortable ride up to level 8.

Then I gave up... the only groups I could ever join for that level were Bloody Crypt (and farmed it a lot) and Delera's. Checking the social panel there's like... a giantish gap from level 5~6 to 13 onwards and then even those mid-level pugs consist of a single person waiting for minutes before taking it down or going in the quest solo. Checked just now, there were 10 Level 9s online (I'm capped at 8, could just skip level 6s), 5 in a group (or solo with hires, who knows) meaning that if I could fill a full party I would be playing with all players available in the entire server for my level range, unless some level 8s decided to skip content as well and joined me, then I would be playing with half the total population for my level range.

Back to Thelanis. Is Argonnessen a newcomer server filled with new players playing Low-Level Content and Vets in Epics-only?

It really boils down to play time. There is enough population on all servers for all levels to have LFM's. However the bulk may not be in your time zone for play. I run into that on Sarlona a lot.

[Jasparion]

I wish people would stop judging server population based on the LFG queue alone. There are plenty of players who just don't use it, who enjoy leveling solo. It just seems to me that people who claim they can't level a toon without a group are either creating weak builds or are somewhat parasitic on the efforts of others, I would guess many players would disagree with me.

Of course what you are describing here is why we all play MMOs... to play on our own and mock others !

Was saying to a friend the other day, DDO is much more of an MSO than a MMO. If we didnt have a static group of 5 or 6 players, we would be playing a different game which was designed for individuals.

[Zoda]

Of course what you are describing here is why we all play MMOs... to play on our own and mock others !

Was saying to a friend the other day, DDO is much more of an MSO than a MMO. If we didnt have a static group of 5 or 6 players, we would be playing a different game which was designed for individuals.

I wouldn't be surprised if I were you, you just basically asked ppl to apply to join your playgroup with a complete DDO CV in your thread lol...

If you don't already have a big enough playgroup, I'd suggest not being so picky about who you play with and you will eventually get noticed by someone and get an invitation into one or another of the many private channels. Don't get me wrong, I mean no offense, it's nothing but a friendly suggestion.

I agree though that pugging became harder these recent patches. The gap between new players and vets just keeps tightening every patch, and by now they are barely mixing for that reason (at least on Argo). The way dungeon scaling works atm doesn't help either.

[TrinityTurtle]

I wish people would stop judging server population based on the LFG queue alone. There are plenty of players who just don't use it, who enjoy leveling solo. It just seems to me that people who claim they can't level a toon without a group are either creating weak builds or are somewhat parasitic on the efforts of others, I would guess many players would disagree with me.

Well, in my opinion you got it partially right. Judging by the lfm panel IS a bad idea, but soloists aren't really the only (or most likely even main problem). Friends are. Seriously, a large bulk of the populations on all the servers are people who have made friends, and tend to run with that static group/guild/channel/whathave you. I'm not 100% sure and don't have actual math statistics but I can see the grouped up icon on the who list and it's usually on most of the people, but I honestly believe that there are far more players engaged in this friend grouping vs. stranger grouping than there are soloists out there. Add the two together and it shows why looking at the who list shows a LOT of people online, and a HUGE amount with the grouped icon, but very few lfms.

[Ganak]

Back to Thelanis. Is Argonnessen a newcomer server filled with new players playing Low-Level Content and Vets in Epics-only?

We call it Argo.

Yep don't let the door hit you on the way out. Argo is strong as ever. Lots of channel/guild action. This has always been a server where you pay your dues and always one of the healthiest .


Funny, forgot Thelanis was a server. Cannot recall anything of significance from Thelanis.