Integrate seal/shard system into CoVs

[LeoLionxxx]

For a while now I've been pulling Epic Seals and Shards from chests that I have no real intention of using. Thus, they've just been lying around my ingredient bags gathering digital dust (Or wait, are bags of holding a vacuum..?). I can't sell them and it would be an absolute waste to just destroy them, so why not turn them into something else?

Specifically, I propose we be granted the ability to convert Epic Seals and Shards (not scrolls) into Commendations of Valor. Not outrageous quantities of course, just enough to be lightly meaningful, to rekindle the exciting thrill of seeing one appear in your loot.

I'm thinking for each: 10, 15, perhaps 25 but that might be stretching it. I exclude scrolls from this because of their non-bound status; it makes sense that we shouldn't be able to sell our potential commendations.

Not only would this lighten the burden on players trying to gather the CoVs to TR (or for crafting uses), it would encourage the playing of old content. The real only backlash I can see possible with this is players being less charitable with their unwanted seals/shards, since it is now a problem of the past.

[Gljosh]

I like this idea. I have quite a few Seals/Shards for items I doubt anyone would ever want to make. I think if this concept were to work both ways that would be great.

Turn in Seals/Shards 5(Non-Raid) and 10 (Raid)

Purchase Seals/Shards 25 (Non-Raid) and 50 (Raid)

[darkly_dreaming]

I do like this idea over all, but I think the exchange ratio would have to be significantly skewed. Turning seals/shards into CoV's, 5 - 10 per seal/shard. But BUYING seals/shards would probably be more in line with their relative rarity.

Though I admit buying a Shard of the Sword of Shadow for 25 CoV makes me smile. Or a Shard of the Ring of Spell Storing. But realistically it'd probably be more in line with the cost of a heart (4200 CoV) or even greater.

[Trillea]

I do like this idea over all, but I think the exchange ratio would have to be significantly skewed. Turning seals/shards into CoV's, 5 - 10 per seal/shard. But BUYING seals/shards would probably be more in line with their relative rarity.

Though I admit buying a Shard of the Sword of Shadow for 25 CoV makes me smile. Or a Shard of the Ring of Spell Storing. But realistically it'd probably be more in line with the cost of a heart (4200 CoV) or even greater.

I was thinking that at 25/shard it would be random to prevent everyone from having an ESOS the 1st day.

[darkly_dreaming]

I was thinking that at 25/shard it would be random to prevent everyone from having an ESOS the 1st day.

I think with the Eveningstar challenge rewards it's been pretty well established that 'random' makes the playerbase foam at the mouth.

[Gljosh]

I do like this idea over all, but I think the exchange ratio would have to be significantly skewed. Turning seals/shards into CoV's, 5 - 10 per seal/shard. But BUYING seals/shards would probably be more in line with their relative rarity.

Though I admit buying a Shard of the Sword of Shadow for 25 CoV makes me smile. Or a Shard of the Ring of Spell Storing. But realistically it'd probably be more in line with the cost of a heart (4200 CoV) or even greater.

Actually Esos Shard would cost 50 CoV, the current shard is found in a raid. But you still have to have the Scroll, Seal, Shard, and base item. Maybe 500~1000 for a Seal or Shard is more reasonable.

[EllisDee37]

100 valor for the scroll of your choice
250 valor for the seal of your choice
500 valor for the shard of your choice

any epic scroll returns 10 valor
any seal returns 15 valor
any shard returns 25 valor


Sign me up for this, please!

[Myrddinman]

I can get down with this.

[LeoLionxxx]

I didn't include it in my initial suggestions but I did toy with the idea of CoVs being turned back in for Seals/shards. If that were to be included I'm thinking it would be very high prices such as 1-1.5 K apiece so that it's still worth farming the ingredients as an alternative, but if you don't mind putting your ETR back a while you can still get your item without getting bored of running the quest over and over.

Also, I feel strongly about excluding Epic item scrolls from this because they are distributed differently and are freely tradable, meaning the AH could then be flooded with them purely for their value in CoVs, rather than their potential to make the associated item.

It might also be worth it to allow trading of Commendations of Heroism for something such as a solid 50 or 100 CoVs; might make the raiding scene more lively as people run them to not only upgrade loot but to upgrade their CoV count.

[FuzzyDuck81]

Nice idea, but i'd have to put my vote with the alternative of allowing us to buy/exchange components with CoVs.

[Dalsheel]

100 valor for the scroll of your choice
250 valor for the seal of your choice
500 valor for the shard of your choice

any epic scroll returns 10 valor
any seal returns 15 valor
any shard returns 25 valor


Sign me up for this, please!

/signed

[Gljosh]

100 valor for the scroll of your choice
250 valor for the seal of your choice
500 valor for the shard of your choice

any epic scroll returns 10 valor
any seal returns 15 valor
any shard returns 25 valor


Sign me up for this, please!

/signed at a power level above 9000!!!

[LiquidZombie]

100 valor for the scroll of your choice
250 valor for the seal of your choice
500 valor for the shard of your choice

any epic scroll returns 10 valor
any seal returns 15 valor
any shard returns 25 valor


Sign me up for this, please!

Works for me.

I think to implement this they would need to rework the trading interface to accomodate the huge number of list items that it would contain were it to offer seal, shard and scroll for every epic item in the game. But perhaps the search function would be sufficient to make it usable (like with Cannith Crafting).

[Wipey]

I think with the Eveningstar challenge rewards it's been pretty well established that 'random' makes the playerbase foam at the mouth.

Heh, you know that people that are missing the shard/seal of Sos or Ross would spend all their Covs in 10 mins to get it anyway.
Not to mention those that run epics pre Motu have hundreds of shards/seals/scrolls.

If someone has 300 or more Adq/Von runs over years for the super low chance for that last component , 3, 4 , 5 epic hearts is nothing.

[Gljosh]

Or we combine this with other ideas to create Pack Specific Seals and Shards. You get Seal or Shard Fragments and use CoVs to combine them and make full Seals and Shards.

[MuleAxe]

Or... the Turbine way... Put it on the store
5500 TP for ESOS pack; shard, scroll, seal

Personally like the OP way better