Commendations of Valor Update

[Jasparion]

As a casual player playing only 3-4 quests a day, it probably takes you 2-3 months to get from level 20-28 anyway...

Don't get me wrong...I think should probably lower the number of Comms needed as well, but your argument is weak.

My group runs between 4 and 8 quests a day, 5 to 7 days a week and got there in 3 or 4 weeks. And we got about 1,800 Comms running all the content on EH and taking the rewards almost every time. Skipped Slayers and hardly repeated much. Ran a few raids.

Not sure how that fits in the Casual / Hard Core / Teh_Troll scale, but there you have it.

Agreed, but don't forget that karma needs to drop to 2 million. (The price of a single destiny, which was all you needed to get a free 6 million karma when it went live. Man did I get hosed, needing to grind 5 million xp now instead of 900k the week before U20 went live.)

Even 3 million would be fine. Spend half your time in the off-EDs, half your time in the ones you want.

[mmitch5]

After 1 months of EHarding web dungeons i am sitted
At 2211 COV.
Had not much time during double bonus period but surely
Will get to 4200 on March 2014 or maybe never if I get
Exhausted before..
They have invented the perfect hamster wheel , the one that
Is infinite

My group runs between 4 and 8 quests a day, 5 to 7 days a week and got there in 3 or 4 weeks. And we got about 1,800 Comms running all the content on EH and taking the rewards almost every time. Skipped Slayers and hardly repeated much. Ran a few raids.

Not sure how that fits in the Casual / Hard Core / Teh_Troll scale, but there you have it.



Even 3 million would be fine. Spend half your time in the off-EDs, half your time in the ones you want.

[brian14]

It is a perfect hamster wheel only if the cheese is tasty enough.

My second-life bard (currently level 16) has maxed out Fatesinger, and now has 6,000,000 karma. However a) I much prefer heroic content to epic, and b) Arcane EPL's are absolute junk in my opinion. I am much more interested in getting him a druid past life, and will probably HTR not long after reaching 21. To heck with that Arcane karma.

I did ETR my ranger, for Colors of the Queen, with an Epic Heart from DDO store. Might get her also a Divine EPL in distant future, but so far the level 24-28 range is just not fun to play. And if it's not fun, I won't do it.

[danotmano1998]

*Highly logical suggestion ahead*


Turbine, how about you lower the comms needed to get hearts just until the new content is released and the level cap goes up?

Come on, this seems like a no-brainer, everybody wins kind of suggestion.

[Gljosh]

I have ETRed 5 times (3-Primal, 1-Martial, and 1-Divine), I took Comms for every reward (when offered EN/EH normally) and I have roughly 3800 Comms. ran lots of high xp/low Comms quests (Von 3/5, Chamber of Raiyum) and used Saga XP to fill out spheres and unlock off destinies. So I had to buy 4 hearts (when on sale just after double points, using Favor and VIP based TP) and used the free VIP ETR Heart. It seems that after my Iconic life I should easily have enough to buy a heart in game, but I bought 2 ITR hearts when they were on sale. Pretty much you have to earn a Com for every 1571XP earned, so skip all optional/slayer/explorer/don't; break boxes, disarm traps, buy Epic Learning tomes, use XP pots, use Epic Otto Stones. Plainly Zerg as fast and hard as you can, but not so hard as to get a Discreet bonus, that could throw off the curve.

[EllisDee37]

Even 3 million would be fine. Spend half your time in the off-EDs, half your time in the ones you want.

Half your time in off-EDs is far too much, IMO.

I view off destinies as akin to other classes' enhancement trees. Needing 6 million karma to ER right now when it takes 6.6 million (or whatever) epic xp to cap is to me no different than saying you need 1.9 million heroic xp to cap, but you can only TR after you've earned 1.75 million xp using another class's enhancement trees instead of the trees for the classes in your build.

[Jasparion]

Half your time in off-EDs is far too much, IMO.

I view off destinies as akin to other classes' enhancement trees. Needing 6 million karma to ER right now when it takes 6.6 million (or whatever) epic xp to cap is to me no different than saying you need 1.9 million heroic xp to cap, but you can only TR after you've earned 1.75 million xp using another class's enhancement trees instead of the trees for the classes in your build.

If you want the benefits of a Barb past life, you level a Barb. If you want the benefits of an Arcane past life, you level in Arcane.

Otherwise we would just level Shiradi Sorcs over and over and pick the past lives we wanted.

[Krelar]

If you want the benefits of a Barb past life, you level a Barb. If you want the benefits of an Arcane past life, you level in Arcane.

Otherwise we would just level Shiradi Sorcs over and over and pick the past lives we wanted.

But you only need 1/3 of your class levels to be barb to get a barb past life. Many people do in fact level their TR's the same way using the same 2/3 classes every time and just switch the 1/3 for the class they want a past life in.

[Drwaz99]

But you only need 1/3 of your class levels to be barb to get a barb past life. Many people do in fact level their TR's the same way using the same 2/3 classes every time and just switch the 1/3 for the class they want a past life in.

Ding! This just 100% shoots down everyone who says this:

If you want the benefits of a Barb past life, you level a Barb. If you want the benefits of an Arcane past life, you level in Arcane.

Otherwise we would just level Shiradi Sorcs over and over and pick the past lives we wanted.

[EllisDee37]

If you want the benefits of a Barb past life, you level a Barb. If you want the benefits of an Arcane past life, you level in Arcane.

Otherwise we would just level Shiradi Sorcs over and over and pick the past lives we wanted.

The heroic barb past life feat is appropriate for barbarians, though.

Which makes more sense as an epic past life for barbs, double strike or double shot? The "barbarian" EPL feat gives double shot. He needs to level as a "fighter" to get double strike.

[Drwaz99]

The heroic barb past life feat is appropriate for barbarians, though.

Which makes more sense as an epic past life for barbs, double strike or double shot? The "barbarian" EPL feat gives double shot. He needs to level as a "fighter" to get double strike.

And to add to this:

Brace, from the Divine Sphere (+1 to saves, +3 PRR) doesn't inherently scream DIVINE! And I have a feeling that other than most PM's and Pure healers, it will the most popular one from that sphere. And to a lesser degree, Enchant Weapon will the the PL of choice for any class that doesn't cast elemental spells. (It does make a good deal of difference on implement bonuses say on eSoS with recon slotted and +3 to-hit and damage is equivalent to 3 heroic monks lives).

So the argument that "If you want the Divine past life, TR into a divine" basically doesn't apply since the epic past lives in many cases are very general. At least in heroic levels, they are more class specific. You would never see +1 to saves and 3PRR as a Cleric or FVS heroic PL (pally sure, but it's really a divine sphere as we speak. Yes I know they are adding one, we'll see what happens.). Or as Ellis Pointed out, doubleshot bonus as one of the barb or druid heroic PL's.

[Nightmanis]

Kind of makes me wonder what other things they may implement in the future for the comms. Grind out 10k to get a blue augment with +1 to weapon threat range and 10% chance for spell crits? Maybe.

[Ladywolf]

*Highly logical suggestion ahead*


Turbine, how about you lower the comms needed to get hearts just until the new content is released and the level cap goes up?

Come on, this seems like a no-brainer, everybody wins kind of suggestion.

Agree with lowering comms needed for hearts. Alternatively, please increase comms reward/quest

[Jasparion]

The heroic barb past life feat is appropriate for barbarians, though.

Which makes more sense as an epic past life for barbs, double strike or double shot? The "barbarian" EPL feat gives double shot. He needs to level as a "fighter" to get double strike.

That is more about Devs designing terrible past lives, than an issue with how much Karma to earn.

I would much rather they make the past lives actually worth taking.

[Daitengu]

The heroic barb past life feat is appropriate for barbarians, though.

Which makes more sense as an epic past life for barbs, double strike or double shot? The "barbarian" EPL feat gives double shot. He needs to level as a "fighter" to get double strike.

The Barb EPL is the Fast Healing, as in in the Fury Destiny. Doubleshot is the ranger EPL.