Ascendancy: Bolt of the Sun

[Dagolar]

Not that this isn't nice and all, but it completely overshadows the existing capstone spells.
In fact, comparing it to Silver Flame, it's even a direct upgrade!

Lets compare:
Searing Light (Maximum damage 5d4+20 (Vs Undead: Maximum damage 10d3+30))
Sun Bolt (Maximum damage 15d4+60 (or 7.5d4 + 30 on a succesful save for half- so even on a save, it's better [except against undead]. Note that it also hits multiple targets.))

All I can see to balance it is a lengthy cooldown, and those are awful for gameplay, with spells you intend to utilize often.

Heck, it's bad enough half the existing capstone abilities- and most of the Archmage SLAs- aren't exactly thrilling.

[Charononus]

Not that this isn't nice and all, but it completely overshadows the existing capstone spells.
In fact, comparing it to Silver Flame, it's even a direct upgrade!

Lets compare:
Searing Light (Maximum damage 5d4+20 (Vs Undead: Maximum damage 10d3+30))
Sun Bolt (Maximum damage 15d4+60 (or 7.5d4 + 30 on a succesful save for half- so even on a save, it's better [except against undead]. Note that it also hits multiple targets.))

All I can see to balance it is a lengthy cooldown, and those are awful for gameplay, with spells you intend to utilize often.

Heck, it's bad enough half the existing capstone abilities- and most of the Archmage SLAs- aren't exactly thrilling.

That's not the problem the problem is how do you build a 20 level fvs with 1 cleric level. If they're going to not require at least 1 of the base level for iconic tr they need to spell it out.

[Violith]

Not that this isn't nice and all, but it completely overshadows the existing capstone spells.
In fact, comparing it to Silver Flame, it's even a direct upgrade!

Lets compare:
Searing Light (Maximum damage 5d4+20 (Vs Undead: Maximum damage 10d3+30))
Sun Bolt (Maximum damage 15d4+60 (or 7.5d4 + 30 on a succesful save for half- so even on a save, it's better [except against undead]. Note that it also hits multiple targets.))

All I can see to balance it is a lengthy cooldown, and those are awful for gameplay, with spells you intend to utilize often.

Heck, it's bad enough half the existing capstone abilities- and most of the Archmage SLAs- aren't exactly thrilling.

searing light is 1d4+4 light/2 level max of 20 or 1d3+3/level to undead (searing = 50-80 to normal mobs, 80-120 to undead)
Sunbolt is 1d4+4/level max of 15 (sunbolt is 75-120 to everything), sunbolt has a reflex save (so basically 1/2 in content that its needed so 37-60), so... searing light is slightly better. although someone said sun bolt was a line spell thus hits all in a row, never used it so dont know if thats true.

[phalaeo]

Isn't one an SLA, and the other a full SP cost spell?

[voodoogroves]

Pretty sure both are SLAs

And, frankly, both are miles ahead of being able to cast Shield.

[Silverleafeon]

Pretty sure both are SLAs

And, frankly, both are miles ahead of being able to cast Shield.

Does happy dance.
Does happy dance again.

Swinging an ESOS with +3 to hit, +2 damage, and access to the warpriest tree plus terrible SLA

OR

Swinging a EE Forgotten Light with +3 to hit, +2 damage, and access to the warpriest tree plus an Awesume SLA if you go pure


Balance?
Who knows?
Some dieties give great SLAs and poor weapons and vice versa.

I guess all we can do is pray?
Especially battle clerics?
Purchasable feat for second favored weapon?

Next time you are sitting around waiting for a healer to join your raid, ponder what the AoV capstones should be.
Throw the healer a bone and maybe, just maybe they will log in...

[phalaeo]

Pretty sure both are SLAs

And, frankly, both are miles ahead of being able to cast Shield.

Nope, Sunbolt is an actual spell, with full SP cost.

I have the Searing Light SLA on my Cleric, and I use that way more often than I use Sunbolt. I have Sunbolt memmed, but the other one barely costs anything so I only use Sunbolt when I don't need to conserve SP.

[Silverleafeon]

Nope, Sunbolt is an actual spell, with full SP cost.

I have the Searing Light SLA on my Cleric, and I use that way more often than I use Sunbolt. I have Sunbolt memmed, but the other one barely costs anything so I only use Sunbolt when I don't need to conserve SP.

I believe we are talking about pure favored souls with tier 5 in angel of vengeance.

You are correct a cleric would gain searing light as a SLA in divine disciple yet sunbolt as a spell.

[phalaeo2]

I believe we are talking about pure favored souls with tier 5 in angel of vengeance.

Yep, I know.