Character Planner - Series 4.xx

[Garix]

1. Measure The Foe from the Assassin tree should be in column 2 above Critical Damage.
2. Wand and Scroll Mastery has a typo "+X% to damage and healing from want, scroll and other items that cast spells" this should read "+X% to damage and healing from wands, scrolls and other items that cast spells".

Stoner81.

Both fixed for the next build.

[Bolo_Grubb]

on one of my newly ( at least I think it is a newly created) created character files, I get a crash error "the prgram has stopped working..."

This happens when I load the saved character, select any level at or above 20, then select Forum Export. The forum export will then come up blank. If I click on any check box the program crashes. I can email or upload the character save file if needed. Just tell me where.

edit:
Just noticed that when I got to level 20 and check the skills panel, it is blank, but only at level 20

[Ron]

on one of my newly ( at least I think it is a newly created) created character files, I get a crash error "the prgram has stopped working..."

This happens when I load the saved character, select any level at or above 20, then select Forum Export. The forum export will then come up blank. If I click on any check box the program crashes. I can email or upload the character save file if needed. Just tell me where.

edit:
Just noticed that when I got to level 20 and check the skills panel, it is blank, but only at level 20

There are a couple of places in the planner where we fixed bugs like this having to do with the new enhancements. One was in the Thief-Acrobat tree. Another (IIRC) was one of the artificer trees, I think. What trees did you invest in?

[Stoner81]

Great job guys thank you for everything that you do! So far not come across any other issues or anything but will be keeping my eyes peeled.

Stoner81.

[Bolo_Grubb]

There are a couple of places in the planner where we fixed bugs like this having to do with the new enhancements. One was in the Thief-Acrobat tree. Another (IIRC) was one of the artificer trees, I think. What trees did you invest in?

The character this was happening with is a thief acrobat build.

[DeadSpatula]

That'd be an excellent improvement, I hope you'll cover LRs too?

Id imagine you are refering to the same tome bonus application problem? I imagine the same TR screen could be used for LR tome application as well....

[NostraVar]

Heya Ron et al,
First off I would like to say I greatly appreciate the use of your planner, I have been using it since version 3.71 and its been a lifesaver.

I'm having some performance issues (severe FPS drop) with the new enhancement window (actually, the same issue has always happened when I clicked on true reincarnation at level 1, but since that was a once an done thing and only presented when those icons were drawn, I never bothered trying to troubleshoot my system, other than updating video drivers). When clicking on the modify enhancment button, window opens an I get to watch it draw the icons in each tree, twice. It takes apx 4 seconds to complete and happens when scrolling the trees too.

I am hoping I can get some info about what is different with those 2 sections, so that I can attempt to tweak/troubleshoot my system. DxDiag reports no issues with DirectDraw or Direct3D, DDO runs at apx 30 fps.

Windows XP Pro 32-bit Service Pack 3
DirectX 9.0 c
Nvidia GeForce 9800 GT with 1 GB ram, 1152 x 864 @ 75 Hz on a 19" CRT
AMD Athlon 64 Dual core 3800+
2 GB system ram
7200 rpm SATA HD (but sadly, don't have AHCI working)

An yes, I know it's gettin very long in the tooth, but upgrades are not in the budget.

Just wanted to clarify that system has no issues drawing any of the other icons, skill, Feat or spells. Has happened to me with every version of planner, but only the true reincarnation section.

[Ron]

Heya Ron et al,
First off I would like to say I greatly appreciate the use of your planner, I have been using it since version 3.71 and its been a lifesaver.

I'm having some performance issues (severe FPS drop) with the new enhancement window (actually, the same issue has always happened when I clicked on true reincarnation at level 1, but since that was a once an done thing and only presented when those icons were drawn, I never bothered trying to troubleshoot my system, other than updating video drivers). When clicking on the modify enhancment button, window opens an I get to watch it draw the icons in each tree, twice. It takes apx 4 seconds to complete and happens when scrolling the trees too.

I am hoping I can get some info about what is different with those 2 sections, so that I can attempt to tweak/troubleshoot my system. DxDiag reports no issues with DirectDraw or Direct3D, DDO runs at apx 30 fps.

Windows XP Pro 32-bit Service Pack 3
DirectX 9.0 c
Nvidia GeForce 9800 GT with 1 GB ram, 1152 x 864 @ 75 Hz on a 19" CRT
AMD Athlon 64 Dual core 3800+
2 GB system ram
7200 rpm SATA HD (but sadly, don't have AHCI working)

An yes, I know it's gettin very long in the tooth, but upgrades are not in the budget.

Just wanted to clarify that system has no issues drawing any of the other icons, skill, Feat or spells. Has happened to me with every version of planner, but only the true reincarnation section.

It's not a DirectX issue. The planner doesn't use DirectX.

It's hard to say. My best guess is it might be a memory issue. The enhancement screen uses a LOT of graphics, and you might be having to swap out graphics between RAM and VRAM. But I'm not sure why that would affect the Reincarnation screen though.

There is nothing I know of that is different between those screens and the main screen. The main screen does do some back-buffering things that we aren't doing in the other screen, but that's a recent addition. I can look at the enhancement screen and see what we can do about back buffering those, that might help you.

[Frogger1234]

I was working on an LR plan for my FvS, and I came across a couple of things in the Version 04.19.02 planner:

When I load a saved file, the AoV tree is missing (needs to be selected) and is reset to empty. The AoV enhancements are in the saved text file, though.

Seek Eternal Rest is included in the Level 2 spell list (this is a Cleric Only spell that grants the caster +4 to sacred level for the purpose of turning Undead)Lesser Restoration is missing from the Level 2 spell list.

When I load a saved file, some spells are listed as "Level 0" in the known spells window, and many of the spells taken at Level 6 and higher are not displayed (or are displayed as blank), though they all appear to be under the SPELLLIST heading in the saved file.

I can't select any of the options in the Efficient Metamagic line in the AoV tree, even though the planner correctly shows which of the metamagics I have/don't have. Early on, I thought I was able to, so maybe something in the file got corrupted with repeated loads and saves. I have been playing with the one file, and have not tried restarting from scratch.

I printed out the snapshot and leveling guide, which worked fine, so no issues with my LR. I just wanted to bring these to your attention.

Thanks much for all the great work on the planner.

[Garix]

I was working on an LR plan for my FvS, and I came across a couple of things in the Version 04.19.02 planner:

When I load a saved file, the AoV tree is missing (needs to be selected) and is reset to empty. The AoV enhancements are in the saved text file, though. UNDER INVESTIGATION

Seek Eternal Rest is included in the Level 2 spell list (this is a Cleric Only spell that grants the caster +4 to sacred level for the purpose of turning Undead)Lesser Restoration is missing from the Level 2 spell list. UNDER INVESTIGATION

When I load a saved file, some spells are listed as "Level 0" in the known spells window, and many of the spells taken at Level 6 and higher are not displayed (or are displayed as blank), though they all appear to be under the SPELLLIST heading in the saved file. ADDED TO KNOWN ISSUES LIST

I can't select any of the options in the Efficient Metamagic line in the AoV tree, even though the planner correctly shows which of the metamagics I have/don't have. Early on, I thought I was able to, so maybe something in the file got corrupted with repeated loads and saves. I have been playing with the one file, and have not tried restarting from scratch. FIXED FOR NEXT BUILD

I printed out the snapshot and leveling guide, which worked fine, so no issues with my LR. I just wanted to bring these to your attention.

Thanks much for all the great work on the planner.

Responses in RED

Can you provide some more info on which spells your seeing the issue with. Thanks

[Frogger1234]

Can you provide some more info on which spells your seeing the issue with. Thanks

The Spell List section of the saved file is:

SPELLLIST: 32,
Cure Light Wounds, 1, 0,
Nightshield, 1, 1,
Protection from Evil, 2, 0,
Obscuring Mist, 3, 0,
Cure Moderate Wounds, 4, 0,
Resist Energy, 5, 0,
Cure Serious Wounds, 6, 0,
Soundburst, 7, 0,
Aid, Mass, 7, 4,
Death Ward, 8, 0,
Aid, 9, 0,
Searing Light, 9, 4,
Cure Critical Wounds, 9, 8,
Cure Light Wounds, Mass, 10, 0,
Bestow Curse, 11, 0,
Holy Smite, 11, 4,
Divine Punishment, 11, 8,
Blade Barrier, 12, 0,
Freedom of Movement, 13, 0,
Protection from Elements, 13, 4,
Cure Moderate Wounds, Mass, 13, 8,
Cure Serious Wounds, Mass, 14, 0,
Break Enchantment, 15, 0,
Heal, 15, 4,
Spell Resistance, Mass, 15, 8,
Death Ward, Mass, 16, 0,
Greater Restoration, 17, 0,
Cure Critical Wounds, Mass, 17, 4,
Heal, Mass, 18, 0,
Death Pact, 19, 0,
Energy Drain, 19, 4,
True Resurrection, 20, 0,
;

When I load the file, the Known Spells section of the planner at Level 20 shows:

Level 0
- Aid
- CCW
- CSW
Level 1
- CLW
- Nightshield
- Obscuring Mist
- Protection from Evil
Level 2
- CMW
- Resist Energy
- Soundburst
Level 7
- Greater Restoration

All other spells are blank when looking at Select Spells at the level when they were originally selected.

There are a lot of spells I haven't tried. I can build a more comprehensive list if that would help.

[Garix]

Thanks for the list. Will let you know if any more is needed

[EllisDee37]

I selected spells on a wizard build I just made with the newest version and they are discarded past last 13.

[Ron]

I selected spells on a wizard build I just made with the newest version and they are discarded past last 13.

Huh. That's odd.

I'll take a look and see what is happening with the spells. It seems like the data in the save entry is right, so maybe there is an error in the load routine.

[Ron]

Frogger, is there any way you can send me that save file in it's entirety for me to try to duplicate what you are seeing?

You can send it to rhiler@rjcyberware.com

-Ron

[Frogger1234]

Frogger, is there any way you can send me that save file in it's entirety for me to try to duplicate what you are seeing?

You can send it to rhiler@rjcyberware.com

-Ron

Done.

[Ron]

Hey all,

The spell issue has been fixed. This is a "once and for all" fix for a long term issue with the planner.

In game, Turbine has spells listed like such: "Aid, Mass". Which is fine. However, for the planner, we use a comma in a lot places as a delimiter between fields, including in the save files. Having an extra comma in the name of the spell was confusing our parser, and it wouldn't load the save files correctly.

In the past what I did to fix this was to simply remove the comma, and list the spell as "Mass Aid". That works, but I didn't love it. I always try to emulate as close as I can the same options you have in game. Otherwise it can be difficult to find in the long list of options at the trainer the spell you want. So with the 04.19.00 build, we went back to the old style, "Aid, Mass".

But of course that fubared our parser again. Which is why you guys were seeing bad spell lists when you saved, and subsequently reloaded, character files.

I was aware of this issue, but I forgot to do anything about it in the long long list of stuff we were cramming into the 04 build. So now that things are a little calmer, I'm getting back to it. I've fixed this issue by changing the delimiter for spell names from a comma to a double comma (which is something Dragon is also doing for Destiny stuff). That way the parser can tell the difference between a comma in a spell name and the end of the spell name.

Unfortunately, this means old save files (prior to our current development build) won't load. What I've done is I've simply disabled spell loading from save files for any file saved prior to version 04.19.03. That means when you load an old character up, you will have to redo his/her/its spells. Sorry about that. But there is really no other way to fix this. Once you redo your spells and save, they will load fine (since they will be saved under 04.19.03), including any spells with commas in their name.

By the way, you should see the Destiny screen Dragon is building for you guys. Good stuff!

[silinteresting]

Hey all,

The spell issue has been fixed. This is a "once and for all" fix for a long term issue with the planner.

In game, Turbine has spells listed like such: "Aid, Mass". Which is fine. However, for the planner, we use a comma in a lot places as a delimiter between fields, including in the save files. Having an extra comma in the name of the spell was confusing our parser, and it wouldn't load the save files correctly.

In the past what I did to fix this was to simply remove the comma, and list the spell as "Mass Aid". That works, but I didn't love it. I always try to emulate as close as I can the same options you have in game. Otherwise it can be difficult to find in the long list of options at the trainer the spell you want. So with the 04.19.00 build, we went back to the old style, "Aid, Mass".

But of course that fubared our parser again. Which is why you guys were seeing bad spell lists when you saved, and subsequently reloaded, character files.

I was aware of this issue, but I forgot to do anything about it in the long long list of stuff we were cramming into the 04 build. So now that things are a little calmer, I'm getting back to it. I've fixed this issue by changing the delimiter for spell names from a comma to a double comma (which is something Dragon is also doing for Destiny stuff). That way the parser can tell the difference between a comma in a spell name and the end of the spell name.

Unfortunately, this means old save files (prior to our current development build) won't load. What I've done is I've simply disabled spell loading from save files for any file saved prior to version 04.19.03. That means when you load an old character up, you will have to redo his/her/its spells. Sorry about that. But there is really no other way to fix this. Once you redo your spells and save, they will load fine (since they will be saved under 04.19.03), including any spells with commas in their name.

By the way, you should see the Destiny screen Dragon is building for you guys. Good stuff!

thankyou for the update and all the works you guys do.

i know this is cheeky but is there any chance of a quick screen shot of what dragons working on?

again a big thankyou

your friend sil

[Ron]

i know this is cheeky but is there any chance of a quick screen shot of what dragons working on?

It's fine with me. It's really up to Dragon though. It's his baby. If he thinks it's ready for a preview shot, I'll be happy to put one up.

[Missing_Minds]

Came across something I didn't expect.

If your 21st lvl would (ordinarly) be lvl 13 druid, you are offered druid wildshape feat.

No feats taken.
No ablity points spent, 32 pt build selected.
no skill points spent.
No enhancments selected.
tomes : +1 at lvl 3 all.
+2 at lvl 7 all.
+3 at lvl 11 all.
+4 at lvl 15 dex, con, cha.

barb lvl 1 and 3
fighter lvls 5, 7, 9, 11, 13, 15
druid every other lvl not listed.