Your Wis (for spell points and casting) and your Char are not to low?Originally Posted by mna
I was just thinking, all the fun with Righteous Weapons going to waste and all... and then some more reflex save would be nice according to some comments...
Would something like this be viable?
You'd get Evasion at level 16, and, well, I was thinking about possibly doing 10/7/3 as well but I don't think the 3rd Rogue level is all THAT good for this build - 1d6 sa and +1 saves vs traps, but at the cost of some of the already low sp and 2 spell slots.Code:Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 04.19.03 DDO Character Planner Home Page Level 24 True Neutral Elf Male (10 Fighter \ 2 Rogue \ 8 Cleric \ 4 Epic) Hit Points: 295 Spell Points: 545 BAB: 17\17\22\27\27 Fortitude: 16 Reflex: 17 Will: 10 Starting Feat/Enhancement Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats (28 Point) (Level 1) (Level 24) Strength 16 25 Dexterity 16 18 Constitution 13 13 Intelligence 12 12 Wisdom 8 8 Charisma 8 8 Tomes Used +2 Tome of Strength used at level 23 Starting Feat/Enhancement Base Skills Modified Skills Skills (Level 1) (Level 24) Balance 7 17 Bluff 3 7 Concentration 3 11 Diplomacy -1 3 Disable Device n/a n/a Haggle -1 3 Heal 1 25 Hide 3 8 Intimidate -1 3 Jump 7 22 Listen -1 5 Move Silently 3 8 Open Lock 7 12 Perform n/a n/a Repair 1 5 Search 1 7 Spellcraft 1 5 Spot 3 9 Swim 6 14 Tumble 4 9 Use Magic Device 3 22 Level 1 (Rogue) Feat: (Selected) Power Attack Level 2 (Fighter) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting Level 3 (Cleric) Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell Feat: (Deity) Follower of the Undying Court Level 4 (Fighter) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Cleave Level 5 (Fighter) Level 6 (Cleric) Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons Level 7 (Fighter) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - 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I think the +2 str tome at 23 should be feasible for a first life toon, based on the fact that my senior (f2p first life) toon has 1722 favor currently, while at level 22. So, that's just 28 more favor until the guaranteed +2 tome choice. Or if you get that earlier, well, I left the level 21 feat open... (Maximize? Dodge?)
And of course in the new system you're supposedly able to get the 4 extra build points too with your provided +0 LR heart, as well... IF you want to use it.
(And this thing'd let you get out of the Divine sphere in Epic Destinies with comparatively little pain, being able to get centered fairly easily for GMoF.)
Sure, it could be theoretically slightly better as drow, you'd get to start with 14 Con instead of 13 and get +1 more Str while Divine Might is on. Oh, and +1 UMD and some spell resistance. Then again, no Raise Dead feat and 10% less crit range.
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01-04-2014, 11:46 AM #121Community Member
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Your Wis (for spell points and casting) and your Char are not to low? Originally Posted by mna
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01-08-2014, 06:35 PM #122Community Member
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Trying the PDK version, but could use some advice on EDs and Gear
Thanks for posting this build EllisDee37.
I had a 25th Barb that was in mothballs so I thought I would TR him into a PDK using your build.
So far it looks pretty promising. Like you, I dropped the SD tree. I used those extra points to take the special PDK enhancements like Rallying Cry, Final Stand and For Cormyr! I hope this will add to the special sauce that makes this a good self healing DPS that also acts as a force multiplier for the group or raid.
I do feel that my HP is a bit low for a 21st level at 561 before buffs in non-Unyielding Sentinel EDs. If you and the other readers could suggest some gear to flesh out my HP and healing spells along with your thoughts on the best ED that would be great. I have what one would expect for 25th Barb with mostly hand-me-down gear but it is probably easier for you all to make suggestions than for me to list my kit and you all try to fill in the gaps. Besides I don't have the game loaded for me to examine.
I would be interested in thoughts about how this could could be developed into a EE class toon. More PLs? Is it just not toon that will ever work in EE content?
Thanks again
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01-09-2014, 05:53 PM #123Community Member
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I was looking for a THF build with backup healing for my group, without having to go FVS. Changing to Radiant Servant, I think I found it.
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01-09-2014, 06:30 PM #124
It is a touch squishy, I admit. Originally Posted by GrayScioto
I recommend using Legendary Dreadnought as your main destiny, twisting in sense weakness, rejuvenation cocoon and maybe brace for impact.
For an EE build I'd probably drop cleric and switch to fighter/pally/monk. 12 fighter, and then any of 6/2 2/6 or 4/4 for the pally/monk.I would be interested in thoughts about how this could could be developed into a EE class toon. More PLs? Is it just not toon that will ever work in EE content?
What makes this build not particularly suited for EE is the low saves and mild squishiness. I've no doubt it could handle the easy EEs, but I don't particularly care for EE so I don't run them or build for them. The reason I don't like them is because it is essentially a different game, with completely different focus. I enjoy melee and first life DC casting, while EE is more about range attacks and shirardi spamming while building for super high saves, HP and PRR. None of that appeals to me; I feel it hamstrings build variety and playstyle choices.
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03-26-2014, 07:43 AM #125Community Member
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This is a great build.. especially for new players. I say this from experience as its similar to what I did on my 2nd life . I went dwarf with axe and shield and used stalwart mixed with kensei and some out of the cleric tree. did decent enough damage tanked solid enough (didn't run in epic long enough but prob not great for that) and was able to assist in party healing along with 95% chance on ress scrolls. There was quit a few times I saved party with build and for a 2nd life noob it felt great Originally Posted by EllisDee37
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04-07-2014, 02:06 PM #126Community Member
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Sad... but true, i ran this build up to level 25... works real good in EN, EH... But at EE (or new raids), you get kill by casters/ traps... Saves are the downfall... Originally Posted by EllisDee37
2 questions: 1) did you tried new weapons from dragon's raids? a nice thunderforged greataxe is tasty...
2) did you took a look a new destiny: divine crusader? it screams kensai/ warpriest, lots of good stuff for this build there...
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04-07-2014, 02:15 PM #127
I haven't bought the new packs yet only because I'm in the middle of heroic TRing my paladin. Originally Posted by Choopak
My paladin is definitely keeping an eye on divine crusader, hoping it works but the drastic dropoff in dps going from blitz to wrath will be an issue. The kensei warpriest will stay in LD. I prefer this because that will (theoretically) give me a fighter LD, paladin DC and ranger fury, for maximum variety.
But yeah, I can definitely see the appeal of divine crusader for this build, at least in raids.
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05-12-2014, 08:41 PM #128Community Member
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Hi and thanks for that build!
I've been using it and just arrived at Level 3 (Rank 13) and it's going fine so far. I have a question however, I cannot use any Cleric spells yet, it says I'm missing attribute points.
I followed the level list on the first point completely, but at level 3 (Fighter 2 / Cleric 1) it tells me to grab
Spell (1): Cure Light Wounds
Spell (1): Nightshield
Spell (1): Protection from Evil
However, I cannot learn those.
Am I doing something wrong or do I have to wait for a while until I have increased my Wisdom to actually use the spells? The attributes I went with are
Str 16
Dex 8
Con 14
Int 12
Wis 10
Cha 14
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05-12-2014, 08:44 PM #129Community Member
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get a wisdom item. Originally Posted by Ninaran
Hi and thanks for that build!
I've been using it and just arrived at Level 3 (Rank 13) and it's going fine so far. I have a question however, I cannot use any Cleric spells yet, it says I'm missing attribute points.
I followed the level list on the first point completely, but at level 3 (Fighter 2 / Cleric 1) it tells me to grab
Spell (1): Cure Light Wounds
Spell (1): Nightshield
Spell (1): Protection from Evil
However, I cannot learn those.
Am I doing something wrong or do I have to wait for a while until I have increased my Wisdom to actually use the spells? The attributes I went with are
Str 16
Dex 8
Con 14
Int 12
Wis 10
Cha 14
Originally Posted by Originally Posted by Random Person #2
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05-12-2014, 09:23 PM #130
Until you get a wisdom item you can use Owl's Wisdom potions, sold in the marketplace. Originally Posted by Ninaran
Hi and thanks for that build!
I've been using it and just arrived at Level 3 (Rank 13) and it's going fine so far. I have a question however, I cannot use any Cleric spells yet, it says I'm missing attribute points.
I followed the level list on the first point completely, but at level 3 (Fighter 2 / Cleric 1) it tells me to grab
Spell (1): Cure Light Wounds
Spell (1): Nightshield
Spell (1): Protection from Evil
However, I cannot learn those.
Am I doing something wrong or do I have to wait for a while until I have increased my Wisdom to actually use the spells? The attributes I went with are
Str 16
Dex 8
Con 14
Int 12
Wis 10
Cha 14
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05-13-2014, 05:27 PM #131Community Member
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Originally Posted by EllisDee37
Ah. Okay thank you, I'll keep my eyes open for those! Originally Posted by Vellrad
I think I'll just redo my character and choose that Necklace from Korthos Island that gives +1 Wisdom.
And by "Feat: (Deity) Favored by the Sovereign Host" on level 3, you mean "Follower of the Sovereign Host", right?
//Edit: Yeah, the +1 Wisdom from the necklace is enough to cast spells. Woohoo!
Too bad attribute bonuses from items don't stack. Had a +1 Strength Ring and one +1 Strength Helmet. Only gives +1 overall, not +2.Last edited by Ninaran; 05-13-2014 at 08:35 PM.
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05-14-2014, 12:33 AM #132Community Member
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I have a pure bard sitting at level 24 I want to get it to 28 and tr it, and I would like a fighter past life, was thinking of doing this build with using a 20+ lesser heart that we get. But sort of changed my mind and am thinking of 12 fighter 7 druid 1 bard, should be able to do that split yes with that 20+ lesser heart? I can use rams might and the bard song for str, its +6 to strength and +4 to damage right? which should be close to what I could be getting for divine might anway? And I can have the druid double strike ability and maybe fatal harrier so more dps than a cleric splash? I also should still be able to use my dragon scale right? No dw but I have pot and items, and can get fom. Bard for umd as a class skill and I might take that as the first level if I can do that three way split heard there was issues with using those hearts if people wanted to multiclass?
Want druid just cause...........well I haven't used it yet and bought the class ages ago.
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05-14-2014, 12:35 AM #133Community Member
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I think you can use a +1 wisdom tome, though might be too expensive for someone on their first toon, not sure if I have any, what server do you play on? Originally Posted by Ninaran
Ah. Okay thank you, I'll keep my eyes open for those!
I think I'll just redo my character and choose that Necklace from Korthos Island that gives +1 Wisdom.
And by "Feat: (Deity) Favored by the Sovereign Host" on level 3, you mean "Follower of the Sovereign Host", right?
//Edit: Yeah, the +1 Wisdom from the necklace is enough to cast spells. Woohoo!
Too bad attribute bonuses from items don't stack. Had a +1 Strength Ring and one +1 Strength Helmet. Only gives +1 overall, not +2.
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05-22-2014, 06:17 AM #134Community Member
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I play on Sarlona. Originally Posted by NaturalHazard
But I got a necklace with +1 Wisdom, so I can cast spells now and be fine for now. Thanks, though. :3
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05-22-2014, 05:43 PM #135
12/7/1 fighter/druid/bard should work well. Originally Posted by NaturalHazard
As for LR+20ing into it from a pure bard, I believe it should work without issue. The problems people had usually boiled down to trying to take a "4th" class, where you start with a three-class character and then try to take a fourth class in the early levels before you've removed all the levels from one of the first three.
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05-27-2014, 03:08 AM #136Community Member
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Could you please post your version of this build with fvs instead of cleric I'm curious how it would
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05-30-2014, 12:44 AM #137Community Member
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ah yep, sorry slow reply but am on khyber. Hope your enjoying the game. Originally Posted by Ninaran
Ah thanks yeah I put bard in there because I heard of that reason, rogue or arti would of been better but get umd and some other stuff like the str boost. Originally Posted by EllisDee37
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07-07-2014, 12:54 PM #138Community Member
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I like this and I'm probably going to use it on my 3rd life since fun for running around with. I do need to ask though: what about replacing THF with the SWF line instead? Would that help increase the potential of the build or are the requirements just that little bit too stringent to meet?
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07-07-2014, 01:33 PM #139
I hadn't considered it. Wouldn't you rather go bard for a SWF since bards have an actual SWF enhancement tree to play with? Originally Posted by Smythe-Tech
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07-07-2014, 05:31 PM #140Community Member
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If you were to do that I'd go with either a rapier or a bastard sword. Better yet, Celestia and offhand an orb. Originally Posted by EllisDee37
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