Lamannia Update: EARLY Enhancements Preview - Week 2

[eachna_gislin]

I love how people just ignore how much more awesome the ranger enhancement turned out, because their cleric lines are incomplete (they are, you can see the domain names when you select faith lines) and people don't want to expend AP to unlock AA on a h/elf.

Artificer/Fighter, for me, was more or less the same. Sure, some oversight here and there, but no big boost or big nerf.

So, both FvS and Clerics only getting 2 trees and even worse, Protection shared between them, weak racial enhancements on multiple races, other classes besides the divines getting weak class trees, expensive racial prestiges you can't afford to level because you don't have enough AP to do them justice, unrelated enhancements linked together solely to minimize choice in AP spending, and other problems should all be ignored instead because Rangers look good???

It's not just clerics and AA's. A big chunk of what's out there is poorly designed.

[Davelfus]

since I don't plan on being awake in that 2 hour period between the time you post it and they take the forums off-line... How am I gunna know?

they could post at twitter... quick google search and you can find it even if you don't use it

[EllisDee37]

I have a solution for that! I will post an alternative (first thing in the morning - before the forums are brought down) so that you can still provide feedback while we are doing work on the Forums.

You guys really could not have picked a worse time to mess with the forums.

[EllisDee37]

I'm saying that live ranger enhancement lines (and ONLY ranger) got a very nice bump up compared to the lamannia version.

Ranger got kicked in the teeth when they took a major hit to their self-healing. The devs say they intend to add devotion back in, but guaranteed it comes back in the form of "you gain +1 devotion per point spent in tree" for exactly one of the ranger trees. And that will likely be the AA tree. So tempests got a big nerf.

[Aashrym]

So, both FvS and Clerics only getting 2 trees and even worse, Protection shared between them

I've decided that must be a bug. Even if it's WAI. The classes are too similar already to be sharing trees.

[sephiroth1084]

You guys really could not have picked a worse time to mess with the forums.

They're like the guys that schedule road work, sewage maintenance, repaving, and cable installation in NYC:

One week, they tear the road up and repave.
The next week, they tear the road way up to do some sewage work underneath.
The week after that, they repave.
After that, the cable company rolls in and rips it up to lay down some new service.

[oradafu]

They're like the guys that schedule road work, sewage maintenance, repaving, and cable installation in NYC:

One week, they tear the road up and repave.
The next week, they tear the road way up to do some sewage work underneath.
The week after that, they repave.
After that, the cable company rolls in and rips it up to lay down some new service.

It's not just in New York. I've found that to be pretty close to universal true.

BTW, that's exactly what I was thinking when they announced the forums were being shut down midway into the Enhancement preview.

It's either poor planning, as your example gives. Or it's their way of cutting down on our complaints about the enhancements.

[sephiroth1084]

It's not just in New York. I've found that to be pretty close to universal true.

BTW, that's exactly what I was thinking when they announced the forums were being shut down midway into the Enhancement preview.

It's either poor planning, as your example gives. Or it's their way of cutting down on our complaints about the enhancements.

I'd be willing to bet that it's one team making decisions without consulting with another team, not something more nefarious. I'm more inclined to believe in some degree of incompetence over at Turbine (sometimes a lot), sooner than I am to buy into a conspiracy going on (other than their changes to the game designed to snap up more and more money from suckers).

Well, I haven't lived anywhere but here, so my experience in that regard is fairly limited, but it certainly would seem to be a common symptom of bureaucracy the world over.

[sephiroth1084]

By the way, I'd be okay with some enhancements having characterlevel requirements on an individual basis. For example, Keep Wand and Scroll Mastery at roughly where it is, but put in level requisites for the higher ranks. That seems reasonable to me as a gate for preventing too much power at low levels, although the AP availability cap should really take care of that all on its own.