Risia Ice Games

[Violith]

It is ridiculous that risia rituals add to the ML. That was the sum total of their appeal, not adding to ML. I can just use cannith crafting to raise the ML.

Hey, is it exploitable? Cannith crafting caps at ML20. If risia now adds levels cannith-crafting style, does that mean if I add risia icy burst to my +6 holy burst of superior bloodletting (ML25) it will get capped down to ML20?

Hopefully this is the case, as that would at least motivate them to undo this epic fail. Seriously, devs, way to completely miss the point.

crafting isnt capped at 20 anymore now that the level cap has been raised. it caps at the level cap which is 25, (which is why all the old crafted items that had enhancements above a +10 were raised over 20. but, it shouldnt go any higher, so that weapon you have will still remain 25, just get the added effect of icy burst.

[Jorge_2070]

ML increase not retroactive, at least not currently on lam. Same ML as before.

I can confirm this as well. I transfered my bank toon full of icy bursted weapons and they are the same min. level they were before they were upgraded, at least currently on Lammania.

However, for those of us who lost non-weapon glaciation items due to that bug are still screwed, at least as far as I can tell. There still seems to be no way to re-craft those items.

This pretty much kills the Ice Games for me, if this stuff works like it says and it goes live. This might even be the straw that breaks the camel's back, in terms of my tolerance of the bugs and nonsensical decisions the devs keep making, as far as my sub is concerned, if this change goes live and there is no fix for the bugged non-weapon glaciation items.

[MrkGrismer]

The only weapons I am thinking about bursting now is my lvl 25 melee bard. I mean it can not increase a weapon's level above 25 right?

IIRC I think it was Eladrin that said that ML is 'capped' at the current level cap, that is, there is some sort of code that says if ML would be more than the current level cap then ML gets set at the current level cap, however if the cap goes up in the future such 'soft-capped' (my term) items would either go up to their 'proper' ML or to the new level cap (whichever is lower).

[Ganolyn]

[shadereaper33]

Side question

Are we allowed to discuss Lam on the regular forums?

I can't recall if that was always disallowed or just durring new content.
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The only time we haven't been allowed to discuss lamma content on the live boards was during the closed beta for MotU, because Turbine set up an NDA for lamma content during that time. So yes, we can freely discuss lamma content on the live boards, as lamma content can freely be accessed by anyone currently.

[EllisDee37]

crafting isnt capped at 20 anymore now that the level cap has been raised. it caps at the level cap which is 25, (which is why all the old crafted items that had enhancements above a +10 were raised over 20. but, it shouldnt go any higher, so that weapon you have will still remain 25, just get the added effect of icy burst.

I'm not sure why you think that, but none of that is correct. Cannith crafting is capped at ML20, as I can attest from extensive experience. I can post screenshots of an endless assortment of ML20 crafted items with >10 potential if you need visual confirmation, some of which were made just last week.

[Cyndrome]

Leave it to Turbine to turn something cool and fun into a heaping pile of dung...

I agree. Why be diplomatic. Icy burst has worked fine for four years. It's a fun and not game breaking way to twink a few weapons.

I really rarely use an icy burst kit because they cannot be used with crafted weapons, but there are a few neat new effects on random weapons I could see using a kit or two with. Making this effect the ML totally ruins them.

I skipped Mabar because Turbine messed it up, and now this would ruin the whole reason for messing with the ice games. Let's see if we can think of a few ways to screw up the Cove next, and I might throw in some suggestions to really screw up the enhancement overhaul- only six month late (so far).

Nice to know that the devs are focussing on the details that the players really care about.

[EllisDee37]

this would ruin the whole reason for messing with the ice games

No joke.

The only possible use I can see for risia now is ML25 weapons. I'm not sure if turbine thought this through very well; you'd think an event should have something to offer levels below 25, but as currently implemented risia does not.

All those new players we hopefully have to hopefully keep the game alive? You can all go pound sand. Nice move, Turbine.

[Juduss]

On the plus side, Turbine once again saved me some cash. I was once going to drop some RL money on TP so I could pick up the cannith challenges, fortunately Turbine dropped the nerf bat on them before I did. Now I was about to buy some points so I could finally get those skates, again turbine, my wallet thanks you for keeping the cash in my accounts and not yours.

Interesting, you'ld think a business is out there to make (my) money (become theirs)... Yet they keep giving me reasons to keep my money (away from them).

[EllisDee37]

In the hopes this isn't WAI, I opened a thread asking. Tolero has responded, but no official confirmation one way or the other as of yet.

It does sound like glaciation WILL add to ML, though, so that saves me some hassle of not having to find the perfect caster sticks to slap +120 glac onto. heh.

[Feather_of_Sun]

No changes whatsoever have been made to the Frost/Icy Burst Risia recipes.

I suspect that you're all getting worked up over what happens when you put it on an item that is Craftable.
Remember guys: The level requirement of a Craftable item is automatically adjusted based on the Enhancement Value of the effects on it. Nothing new here.

[Such755]

Edit: I just read Father of Sun's comment... so NVM :|

[Azithoth]

No changes whatsoever have been made to the Frost/Icy Burst Risia recipes.

I suspect that you're all getting worked up over what happens when you put it on an item that is Craftable.
Remember guys: The level requirement of a Craftable item is automatically adjusted based on the Enhancement Value of the effects on it. Nothing new here.

Thanks much for the info!

[shadereaper33]

No changes whatsoever have been made to the Frost/Icy Burst Risia recipes.

I suspect that you're all getting worked up over what happens when you put it on an item that is Craftable.
Remember guys: The level requirement of a Craftable item is automatically adjusted based on the Enhancement Value of the effects on it. Nothing new here.

The problem with this is that you have never before been able to add this effect to a craftable item. So, if you can add it to craftable items now, and that is what is causing the +4 ml, then something, somewhere changed.

[EllisDee37]

No changes whatsoever have been made to the Frost/Icy Burst Risia recipes.

I suspect that you're all getting worked up over what happens when you put it on an item that is Craftable.
Remember guys: The level requirement of a Craftable item is automatically adjusted based on the Enhancement Value of the effects on it. Nothing new here.

Risia has never worked on crafted gear.

[EllisDee37]

Note that this change means we can now add risia icy burst to all of our +5 holy burst 2[w] of greater bane crafted beaters. That's a nice change, though crafting all those +15 potential shards is gonna hurt...

[TempestAlphaOmega]

Just out of curiosity, did the OP actually add it to something to see that the ML increased or was he posting this based on the "description"? Remember last year there was a description which stated the ML would change (bleed from Cannith crafting?) but the ML never actually changed.

I see other posts where people confirmed that items that were already existing did not have altered MLs.

[Galeria]

You can Icy Burst crafted gear? This is new.

[Feather_of_Sun]

As the OP described a minimum level increase, I offered an explanation detailing that only Craftable items recalculate their minimum level in that manner. I meant that to offer assurances that your items will not have their level increased. I apologize if it's been misinterpreted.

The point I am trying to get across is this:
No changes have been made to the Festival Frost/Icy Burst recipes.

We have been unable to reproduce any of the complaints made in this thread. If anyone has evidence that any of the complaints in this thread are true, please feel free to provide us with screenshots of the item before and after the recipe is applied, so that we can investigate further.

[Bloodhaven]

As the OP described a minimum level increase, I offered an explanation detailing that only Craftable items recalculate their minimum level in that manner. I meant that to offer assurances that your items will not have their level increased. I apologize if it's been misinterpreted.

The point I am trying to get across is this:
No changes have been made to the Festival Frost/Icy Burst recipes.

We have been unable to reproduce any of the complaints made in this thread. If anyone has evidence that any of the complaints in this thread are true, please feel free to provide us with screenshots of the item before and after the recipe is applied, so that we can investigate further.

like trying it on an ML1 weapon?