Ding 25 - whoops

[RandomKeypress]

So I decided to get level 25 after they sorted out the lev 24 stat bug. Big mistake.

No-one wants to group with a level 25 when they're doing any of the old epic content - no eVoN6, no EDQ - if there's exp to be had, the lev 25 is going to take a huge chunk of it away.

There's not much to be had for those two extra levels and a LOT to loose. My advice - don't bother taking them. Ever.

[Therrias]

Yeah. I predicted this in beta. Why take those last few epic levels when it actively hurts ED progression?

At least you get something for level 24, but 25 is pretty pointless.

[djl]

24 is a big level with that extra feat selection, but is that enough to justify taking it if you are a feat-starved class like a barbarian?

[SiliconScout]

Considering the each point you spend in a destiny often rivals a feat in power (or eclipses it) then I say no.

I don't see how it's ever "worth" it. Unless you have capped your destiny and twists. Then it's something to do for sure.

Honestly ED's are SO powerful that feats really don't mean a hell of a lot in that picture.

[badbob117]

Would be nice if they actually rewarded us with something amazing at level 25. Some kinda level 25 capstone! Something so awesome we actually wanted to level past 23 or 24. Something so tasty we would have to be crazy not to want that level 25 more then ever!


But thats not the case. For most its a few hp and some saves (Sad panda)

Just kinda sad that level 25 is one of the most underwhelming milestones for a toon to hit. It should be the other way around!

[Dagolar]

Would be nice if they actually rewarded us with something amazing at level 25. Some kinda level 25 capstone! Something so awesome we actually wanted to level past 23 or 24. Something so tasty we would have to be crazy not to want that level 25 more then ever!


But thats not the case. For most its a few hp and some saves (Sad panda)

Sounds reasonable enough- even if they do up it to the predicted max of level 30, level 25 is a good spot to drop in a potent bonus showing off how you've progressed in epic/immortal levels. Of course, as noted in this thread, there's already so much in the way of potent bonuses being thrown around, adding even more in would just continue to screw with the player-to-game balances.

[dopey69]

Would be nice if they actually rewarded us with something amazing at level 25. Some kinda level 25 capstone! Something so awesome we actually wanted to level past 23 or 24. Something so tasty we would have to be crazy not to want that level 25 more then ever!


But thats not the case. For most its a few hp and some saves (Sad panda)

Just kinda sad that level 25 is one of the most underwhelming milestones for a toon to hit. It should be the other way around!

i would think that lvl 25 is not the end of it

wait untill your lvl 30 and no one wants to group with you because you can just fart at the begining of the quest and win ddo

[RandomKeypress]

Considering the each point you spend in a destiny often rivals a feat in power (or eclipses it) then I say no.

I don't see how it's ever "worth" it. Unless you have capped your destiny and twists. Then it's something to do for sure.

Honestly ED's are SO powerful that feats really don't mean a hell of a lot in that picture.

Thing is, even if you max out your destinies, no-one else is going to have done that - there will always be a stream of incoming new epic toons who will want / need exp. So if you get level 23 you are still welcome in all the old epic quests and raids. Get level 25 and you're welcome in Caught in the Web.

[Zyerz]

True that... But perhaps in august they'll add quests with the appropriate levels for lv 25 toons... Maybe.

[Seventoe]

Given that the bulk of character power growth comes from destinies anyway, I think it would be far simpler to just to consider all epic characters level 21 for the purpose of xp calculations.

Being excited about character advancement seems pretty fundamental in an mmo, and a mechanic that removes that excitement needs adjustment, in my opinion.

For the same reason, I think the lockout of 17-19 level characters from epic content needs to be removed, as that would largely end the necessity of holding levels. Level holding has become so ingrained that I think we sometimes forget what an unnatural arrangement it is.

[auntjobiska]

i would think that lvl 25 is not the end of it

wait untill your lvl 30 and no one wants to group with you because you can just fart at the begining of the quest and win ddo

Rats! I just snorted red wine all over the place...

AJ