Legendary Tactics

[akiraproject24]

Does the + to tactical feats include quivering palm or just stunning fist if I were to twist it over on my monk? Still finishing my grandmaster but am starting to make plans for what Im gonna twist.

[whereispowderedsilve]

Does the + to tactical feats include quivering palm or just stunning fist if I were to twist it over on my monk? Still finishing my grandmaster but am starting to make plans for what Im gonna twist.

I'm in the exact same boat as OP just wanting to know/wanting clarification that this will increase

our stunning fist DCs! :P! !

Thanks very much in advance! Cheers!

[Monkey_Archer]

Just stunning fist. As far as I know, the only way to increase qp dc is more wisdom.

[RadioactivePiranha]

Legendary tactics does not boost quivering palm. It does boost stunning fist and unbalancing strike. It should boost eagle claw attack, but I haven't tested that one.

[akiraproject24]

Cool. thanks guys

[whereispowderedsilve]

Thank you! Greatly appreciated!

[Dagolar]

Just going to chime in to confirm that:
Quivering Palm is a Monk Special Ability, along with the Shintao abilities, and is upped only by Monk Level and Wisdom.
Stunning Fist is a monk variation of Stunning Blow, both of which are Tactical Feats, and thus can be upped by anything that ups Tactical Feats [or Stunning].

[sacredguyver]

Just going to chime in to confirm that:
Quivering Palm is a Monk Special Ability, along with the Shintao abilities, and is upped only by Monk Level and Wisdom.
Stunning Fist is a monk variation of Stunning Blow, both of which are Tactical Feats, and thus can be upped by anything that ups Tactical Feats [or Stunning].

Unless I've been mis-reading things this entire time, my Shintao's Kukan-Do DCs are increased by Legendary Tactics.

[Dagolar]

Unless I've been mis-reading things this entire time, my Shintao's Kukan-Do DCs are increased by Legendary Tactics.

Hmmm. Maybe because they were having troubles adding in the Monk Level increase to Epic Destinies, and they wanted another outlet for it?

Or perhaps I'm just misremembering how the monk abilities are considered; I simply didn't recall them being affected by the '+1 to all tactical feats' racial enhancements, in any case, which would certainly suggest they're not considered as being such.

[Meowin]

I think Kukan-Do is increased by legendary tactics, just as stunning fist is. It´s the same thing, just ranged & will save based.

Will try and post confirmation, should be easy with having Legendary tactics twisted or not.

[TPICKRELL]

I think Kukan-Do is increased by legendary tactics, just as stunning fist is. It´s the same thing, just ranged & will save based.

Will try and post confirmation, should be easy with having Legendary tactics twisted or not.

Kukan-doh is increased by legendary tactics, it is one of my primary twists so I checked this out as soon as I could.

[Lord_kNiels]

The tactics will likely be meant to provide a bonus to the combat tactics of a fighter. Thus it will increase trip, sunder and stunning blow.

Stunning fist is boosted as stunning blow and will be affected. The same with kukan-do.
Eagle claw is boosted as sunder and will be affected.
Unbalancing strike is boosted as trip and will be affected.

Quivering palm is neither a stun, a trip or a sunder and will not be boosted. As with the other shintao abilities I believe none of them (besides kukan-do) is an ability that falls into one of the three categories.

[Dagolar]

The tactics will likely be meant to provide a bonus to the combat tactics of a fighter. Thus it will increase trip, sunder and stunning blow.

Stunning fist is boosted as stunning blow and will be affected. The same with kukan-do.
Eagle claw is boosted as sunder and will be affected.
Unbalancing strike is boosted as trip and will be affected.

Quivering palm is neither a stun, a trip or a sunder and will not be boosted. As with the other shintao abilities I believe none of them (besides kukan-do) is an ability that falls into one of the three categories.

All but Dismissing Strike are listed as Stunning type effects in the wiki, I'm not sure if they're all effected by Stunning bonuses- and more so, if they're also affected by general tactics bonuses.

Looks like we need a Warforged or Dwarven Shintao with a Stunning Item to test it if [Stunning] and [Racial Universal Tactics+ Enhancements] work on them.

[Arlathen]

I can confirm from personal testing that the following all stack on Stunning Fist, Stunning Blow and Kukan-Do:

Class Enhancements (Fighter Class Enhancements)
Class Enhancements (Fighter Dilletante Enhancements) -Doesn't stack with previous
Prestige Enhancements
Past Life Fighter Feats
Item Bonus
Exceptional Item Bonus
LD T1: Legendary Tactics
GMoF Innate Ability Improvements

Remember, Kukan-Do explicitly states it is affected by modifiers to stunning, and I believe Eagle Claw and Unbalancing Strike were recently updated to specifically state they were affected by Sunder/Trip modifiers as well.

There is no reason other than being bugged that Dwarven/WF racial modifiers shouldn't also work.

[SensaiRyu]

I would assume that it stacks with the same list as the spare hand.

And monk attacks from the linked post:

Stunning Fist (Stunning)
Ku Kan Do (Stunning)
Unbalancing Strike (Vertigo)
Eagle Claw Attack (Shatter)

[pattism]

Which Feat tactics get the +DC on them? -- Why I ask is because I have both Improved Trip and Stunning Blow (both are Melee Feat Tactics); But neither of them show a DC increase when I took two Legendary Tactics.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advanced ! ! !