Shroud Grief

[Melondrop]

Can you guys PLEASE add a two minute timer after the last part of the shroud when he dies?
I am REALLY REALLY tired of stupid people hitting the altar and griefing everyone who is trying to leave.

I was in mid ddoor out when someone did it today, so i lost out on two chests and have to wait for timer because some little snot nosed kid thinks its funny to cause grief for everyone else.

One person should not be allowed to mess things up for everyone else in the raid.

[Beetlebluebird]

Or you could /death out when Harry is almost dead and never have to worry about this issue ever again? o.O

[Vengeance777]

I'd like to see them add the dimensional anchor spell to part 5 of the Shroud that way people will have to learn to /death or recall out. Ddooring is the worst way to leave the Shroud. You have to go through 2 loading screens to leave when you ddoor and you don't show on the map while in the loading screen so it can appear that you are already out when you are not. Your delaying the entire party that much longer by ddooring and the ddoorer has more chances to get put on 3 day timer without any loot. Just /recall or /death when Harry's at 5%.

[Izzban]

I'd like to see them add the dimensional anchor spell to part 5 of the Shroud that way people will have to learn to /death or recall out. Ddooring is the worst way to leave the Shroud. You have to go through 2 loading screens to leave when you ddoor and you don't show on the map while in the loading screen so it can appear that you are already out when you are not. Your delaying the entire party that much longer by ddooring and the ddoorer has more chances to get put on 3 day timer without any loot. Just /recall or /death when Harry's at 5%.

YOUR computer might take longer to run through 2 loading screens than the recall timer, but MINE does not. Players assume things based on their personal experience. Your milage may vary, bud.

BTW, communication will win every time. Just sayin'....

[PopeJual]

YOUR computer might take longer to run through 2 loading screens than the recall timer, but MINE does not. Players assume things based on their personal experience. Your milage may vary, bud.

BTW, communication will win every time. Just sayin'....

Even if your computer takes a couple of milliseconds less to DDoor than it takes to recall, why would you ever even consider it when you have the potential to get both a completion AND lose your end chests. Especially, when there are people who see a DDoor as a giant, flashing sign that says, "CLICK ALTAR NAO!!!1!"

/death is faster than both. When Harry is slivered, you can /death and you're guaranteed a clean escape.


...or were you worried about handing the party a -10% because of your death?

[SupTyr]

Today I saw someone ddooring out of one of the puzzle rooms... XD I guess he thought it was a smart move to get out without solving the puzzle or somehting. He spent the rest of the raid piking at the entrance.

IMO Turbine could try a bit harder to avoid these lockout situations. Why not just lock the entrance after a set amount of time like in the challenges and get rid of all the other random lockout/griefing mechanisms?

... or at least warn the players via DM voice that a barrier is about to pop up or that a portal will collapse soon. It's stupid to assume the party leader will repeat this over and over for each raid party: "DON'T MOVE once we go through the portal." "DON'T touch anything" and my favorite "DON'T range the dragon!!"

[Llewndyn]

Today I saw someone ddooring out of one of the puzzle rooms... XD I guess he thought it was a smart move to get out without solving the puzzle or somehting. He spent the rest of the raid piking at the entrance.

...that I never thought of that.

[Fefnir_2011]

I highly doubt they will honor your request since the Shroud was, y'know, intended to be completed. This is tantamount to asking them to make it so that every quest has a pick-up or interactible that you use to finish the quest, so you can invite people in for teh epic lootz or free xp.

[Merrelll]

I highly doubt they will honor your request since the Shroud was, y'know, intended to be completed. This is tantamount to asking them to make it so that every quest has a pick-up or interactible that you use to finish the quest, so you can invite people in for teh epic lootz or free xp.

This.

[taurean430]

Try teleporting or /deathing out when Arry' is at 10%. You'll never have that issue again.

[MeliCat]

Both /recall and /death are interruptible. Fast group and I'd be doing this at 20% in case of dbfs.

A lot of divines don't know about word of recall scrolls. Beware of stupid graphic and location if you ever hotbar those things.

[Bacab]

Both /recall and /death are interruptible. Fast group and I'd be doing this at 20% in case of dbfs.

A lot of divines don't know about word of recall scrolls. Beware of stupid graphic and location if you ever hotbar those things.

Yeah...I once *thought* I was using Unyielding Sovereignty...imagine my surprise when I was at the NPC for "Relic of a Sovereign Past".

Now imagine the surprise of my Barb buddy who I was duoing with. Luckily we were just doing Amrath Slayers (fighting the baby Harry one).

[sirgog]

Anyone foolish enough to use a D-Door to exit instead of recalling isn't deserving of sympathy if they get screwed out of loot.

The bug that made people use D-Door was fixed what, 3 years ago now?

Just tell people in voice and text chat 'hey, I'm leaving', and recall at 10% if they can finish without you, or instantly on Harry's death if they cannot. And if some idiot hits the altar early, you have recourse - you just cancel the recall.

[phalaeo]

Anyone foolish enough to use a D-Door to exit instead of recalling isn't deserving of sympathy if they get screwed out of loot.

The bug that made people use D-Door was fixed what, 3 years ago now?

Just tell people in voice and text chat 'hey, I'm leaving', and recall at 10% if they can finish without you, or instantly on Harry's death if they cannot. And if some idiot hits the altar early, you have recourse - you just cancel the recall.

The OP's join date shows as Jan 2011... you call him foolish because he doesn't know about a fixed bug from 3 years ago?

However good the advice, it's unlikely that he'll heed it if read with a condescending tone.

[Malshier]

The OP's join date shows as Jan 2011... you call him foolish because he doesn't know about a fixed bug from 3 years ago?

However good the advice, it's unlikely that he'll heed it if read with a condescending tone.

It is rather foolish that using a ddoor to exit shroud persists to this day. Hopefully now that the OP knows why using a ddoor is a bad idea, she can prevent this from happening to her in the future.

[PopeJual]

nevermind.

[Eladiun]

The bug that made people use D-Door was fixed what, 3 years ago now?

So true, and most people who do it now have no idea why we used to do it in the first place.

[EllisDee37]

I don't even understand the logic behind using ddoor in the first pace. If you can cast (or umd scroll) ddoor you can cast (or umd scroll) teleport or even greater teleport, both of which instantly take you to Meridia in a single loading screen.

[Terebinthia]

I don't even understand the logic behind using ddoor in the first pace. If you can cast (or umd scroll) ddoor you can cast (or umd scroll) teleport or even greater teleport, both of which instantly take you to Meridia in a single loading screen.

From what I understand, and it's a bug before my time, there was a point at which you got kicked out of the Shroud into Korthos if you recalled, and Ddoor was a means to get round this.

It's an artifact of that time, historic but pointless. Sort of like DDO's appendix.

I went through a phase of trying to eliminate ddoors in the Shrouds I ran, but got fed up of the "ddoor plz" comments. It's just quicker to give them what they want if you're not running an altar's being hit the second Harry drops Shroud.

[sirgog]

From what I understand, and it's a bug before my time, there was a point at which you got kicked out of the Shroud into Korthos if you recalled, and Ddoor was a means to get round this.

It's an artifact of that time, historic but pointless. Sort of like DDO's appendix.

I went through a phase of trying to eliminate ddoors in the Shrouds I ran, but got fed up of the "ddoor plz" comments. It's just quicker to give them what they want if you're not running an altar's being hit the second Harry drops Shroud.

If you are the only caster, just say 'hitting altar in 15 sec' and don't cast a d-door. Recalling takes about 9 seconds, so they have plenty of time to do it.

Normal runs, I usually tell people to recall when Harry is at 100% unless there's a few finishing early. Let them cast their resists, bardsongs, etc then go.