Elemental Spirits should be BtA not BtC

[Carpone]

Elemental Spirits from the Lord of the Blades raid are currently Bound to Character. They need to be Bound to Account.

[IgorHackNSlasher]

NO, they are like shards in the shroud, if you want the weapons/items you have to run the raid with that character

[steloro]

/signed...is ridiculus that is btc and not bta


this weapon is good for dps...not so for arcane or healr....why i must go with my healer...if this essence is good for my dps?
you don't see that the lfm ifot this raid s always in serch of an healer?

[nivarch]

/signed...is ridiculus that is btc and not bta


this weapon is good for dps...not so for arcane or healr....why i must go with my healer...if this essence is good for my dps?
you don't see that the lfm ifot this raid s always in serch of an healer?

A Superior devotion IX, Superior healing lore, Efficient metamagic Maximize, Greater Evocation Focus weapon with a nice defensive guard such as freezing ice or earthgrab is not nice for your healer ?
We don't play the same game I guess


I don't really mind if they are BtC ... I believe having to run a raid a few time with a character before you can craft is fair. However being it can be very random and luck based getting the essences you want (and a lot of people seem to be looking for the same essences too) it can be frustrating.

[lhidda]

/signed ... Players should come with the toon they are most comfortable with.

[-Zephyr-]

NO, they are like shards in the shroud, if you want the weapons/items you have to run the raid with that character

Why not make Martial/Mystical Cannith Power Cells BtC then ? Those ones can be used by every character, and would force you to run on the character you want to craft a least a few times. But you an still run higher difficulties (including epic) on your best character, to have a chance at exquisite spirits for your other chars.

[rodallec]

NO, they are like shards in the shroud, if you want the weapons/items you have to run the raid with that character

This.

[Tomalon]

Why not make Martial/Mystical Cannith Power Cells BtC then ? Those ones can be used by every character, and would force you to run on the character you want to craft a least a few times. But you an still run higher difficulties (including epic) on your best character, to have a chance at exquisite spirits for your other chars.

This makes a little more sense, I think anyways

[Vellrad]

A Superior devotion IX, Superior healing lore, Efficient metamagic Maximize, Greater Evocation Focus weapon with a nice defensive guard such as freezing ice or earthgrab is not nice for your healer ?
We don't play the same game I guess

Mass heal is overhealing anyway, efficient metamagic and gt focus can be found on million of other items.
I think its too much grind for a healer for a marginal gain, but melee weapons looks really powerful.
And healers could come heal raid, instead of logging on their melee, so you can actually play the game, instead of waiting on healers to come.

[protokon]

Mass heal is overhealing anyway, efficient metamagic and gt focus can be found on million of other items.
I think its too much grind for a healer for a marginal gain, but melee weapons looks really powerful.
And healers could come heal raid, instead of logging on their melee, so you can actually play the game, instead of waiting on healers to come.

Huh?

so..you just went over how bad the items are for a healer...yet you expect people to cater to YOU and play on their healer, so you can get your items? sounds kinda selfish to me.

Granted, I play on my healers because I enjoy them the most, and run them the most in the raid, but it would be nice to get some nice loot for my other characters - since there's nothing impressive that I can build for them.

[Vellrad]

Huh?

so..you just went over how bad the items are for a healer...yet you expect people to cater to YOU and play on their healer, so you can get your items? sounds kinda selfish to me.

Granted, I play on my healers because I enjoy them the most, and run them the most in the raid, but it would be nice to get some nice loot for my other characters - since there's nothing impressive that I can build for them.

IDK, I don't need healers, melees in my gruops needs.
And what I mean is:
If mats would be BtA, healers could come and heal raids, instead of coming only on characters needing things from raids.

[EllisDee37]

Huh?

so..you just went over how bad the items are for a healer...yet you expect people to cater to YOU and play on their healer, so you can get your items? sounds kinda selfish to me.

No, he wants people to play on their healer to farm gear for that healer's alts. Sounds like he feels there is currently a disincentive to bring a healer into the raid since the primo gear is for melees, not healers.

Whether his premise is sound or not I can't say, but his logic holds up.

[protokon]

IDK, I don't need healers, melees in my gruops needs.
And what I mean is:
If mats would be BtA, healers could come and heal raids, instead of coming only on characters needing things from raids.

Ah I was mis-interpreting what you were saying then. For some reason I read it as you meant people need to just log their healers so you dont have to wait anymore..d'oh

Yes I agree 100% - if we can't get an big enough carrot in the raid to attract healers, we need to at least add the BTA carrot so people are willing to heal it.

just another note:

There are plenty of carrots they could throw in to make a healer's mouth water. The first thing I was looking for was an upgrade to my concordant opposition mace, which unfortunately, this option wasn't even there.

I mean, wouldn't it be sweet to have a major healing lore mace with conc opp on it? that is something that I would chase my own tail for

[steloro]

A Superior devotion IX, Superior healing lore, Efficient metamagic Maximize, Greater Evocation Focus weapon with a nice defensive guard such as freezing ice or earthgrab is not nice for your healer ?
We don't play the same game I guess


I don't really mind if they are BtC ... I believe having to run a raid a few time with a character before you can craft is fair. However being it can be very random and luck based getting the essences you want (and a lot of people seem to be looking for the same essences too) it can be frustrating.

i prefer a lot my staff of petioner.....i think you don't heal lord of blade raid...
with my mass heal i over heal alll---why i must grin a lot for a sceptre? plus the shield have lower dr of an epic shield

[emptysands]

A Superior devotion IX, Superior healing lore, Efficient metamagic Maximize, Greater Evocation Focus weapon with a nice defensive guard such as freezing ice or earthgrab is not nice for your healer ?
We don't play the same game I guess

Arcane probably have more interest, but the items are marginal value to divine compared to dps. Consider also that the ml:18 tier 2 weapons will be great use to a dps TR, but an arcane/divine is likely to use other raid loot.

Healers generally go at the moment to i) help out guild runs, or ii) get another chance at martial/greater cell drops for their dps builds.

This is likely to continue as a well gear dps, will want versions of both tier 2 and tier 3 weapons. Mean duplication in the crafting effort.

[DnD3]

So Instead of coming with an Esos FvS I'll come with gimpymcgimp, big deal.

[Zerkul]

The only character who currently really benefit from LoB loot are melees. For healers the Stick is just an extra commodity but is suboptimal to abbot staff anyway unless you want to use a shield. For casters dont even mention it, you want to use the staff of petitioner. So if you want Casters and Healers to be more interested in the raid you should make spirits BtA.

[Chimeran]

/Signed

I agree, it is ridiculous.
I for one , have many toons I like to use to farm mats for a specific character that may already be on timer.

I am tired of toons with bags full of rubbish they can not use.
I have done my time and leveled characters to level 20, items should be bind to account.
DDO stop wasting our time.
Just another reason I am not enjoying this game much since U11

[Sarisa]

The divine items LOOK nice, but their tier 1 and 2 bonuses (don't even look at tier 3, that's epic only) are just tiny boosts that really aren't worth the extreme cost. Most of us would much rather give those essences over to a melee (or especially a monk) to have a more versatile weapon.

Superior Devotion 9 only boosts Mass Heal over the commonly used (18 minutes worth!) of Superior Ardor 8 clickies. The problem is, you have to use Mass Heal when the lowest HP person in the group worth keeping alive needs healed. Most of the time, unless you have a lot of low amp Warforged, you're going to be overhealing the rest of the group.

If you're using Mass Cures, you're in eDQ or possibly Shroud, and the fight is over usually before a single Ardor click runs out, and that does 25% more than the top tier Devotion.

Superior Radiance IX is exceeded by Superior Brilliance V crafted clickies. These can be found on any server for not too much of a cost.

Superior Laceration IX is duplicated by any Superior Potency VI item, which any caster divine would be carrying. At much lower levels.

A guard is nice, but on a Laceration stick, most of the guards are ones that can STOP a mob from running through your Blade Barriers. Incineration Guard doesn't work on a large portion of end game mobs. These may be worthwhile on a pure healbot using a Devotion stick.

The Lores are the only real increase in power, and the power is fairly minor. Most divines have a Major Arcane Lore item somewhere (Skiver, Greenblade, Blue Scale, Noxious Embers). These superior lores give 3% more crit chance and a 0.25 higher crit multiplier. If you have a Rahkir's set, which many FvS's aim for, then you have the extra crit multiplier already so all you get is a 3% higher chance of crits for a small selection of spells.

This is the way to maximize your Blade Barrier damage, but almost all trash dies fast enough anyway. BB'ing bosses is what this is typically used for.

Many FvS's would rather opt for a Radiance Item, and Shield Mastery DoT tank a boss. They'd still prefer keeping the Radiance clickies up for the damage, but the extra crit chance and multiplier is nice. It's still a rather minor boost considering the work involved.

A Superior Healing Lore item is practically worthless outside of Clerics using the aura, and POSSIBLY FvS's using the free Cure to save SP. Healing crits cannot be relied on.

[Samadhi]

NO, they are like shards in the shroud, if you want the weapons/items you have to run the raid with that character

Why?

If our LFM has been sitting up for twenty minutes, wouldn't you rather me switch off my monk to my healer so we can start the raid, instead of sitting there for ? more minutes waiting for one?

/signed OP