Quit supporting the patriarchy and binaries!

[rohmer]

In the Phiarlan carnival it is shown that warforged are their own non-binary gender. While you get to choose a male or female body type, the difference is very subtle for warforged, making them quite androgynous by default. Exactly which way they subtly lean is up to the warforged themselves. The people of Stormreach are quite progressive as well as the outhouses at the carnival include separate facilities for male, female, and warforged (yes, 3, not 2, but 3 separate outhouses). So we already have non-binary representation.

Not advertising it at every corner doesn't mean they're being oppressed. It just means in this world it's not a big issue. Isn't that were we want to be? Where gender fluidity is simply accepted and all people simply live together in relative peace and harmony in a society?

(obviously DDO society is not perfect, otherwise there'd be little conflict to spur on adventure for us adventurers, and thus there'd be no game. But it doesn't have to always be about gender. There is racism and oppression and radical politics... some of that is the point. Both to create situations where we can step in to make things right, and to show that when those things exist, negative conflict often results).

Outside of the game, imo, there's no need to spin up drama where there is none. Reporting anyone who disagrees with you on a public forum is unnecessarily aggressive and imo an abuse of the report system. Disagreement or having different opinions is not an attack. Basing your actions on those opinions / letting those opinions influence you to attack others (verbally or otherwise) IS an offence and is bad, but simply stating one's thoughts on the matter is not. (obviously there is a grey area where one could say "it's my opinion that you are a ___", and that is also an offence imo. "nobody cares" on the other hand - while not true because if even one person in the history of the world cares, which is true because the OP obviously cares - is still a valid opinion that isn't a direct attack on the OP themselves.

On the other hand, human rights issues (which is what I consider gender issues to be a subcategory of... and all human rights issues are important issues in the real wold) are - unfortunately - considered by many to be a political issue that gets heated very quickly, and is thus forbidden by this forums rules. Reporting this thread for that violation is (one of) the intended purpose(es) of the report system. Stating this, and moderators acting on this, is not an attack against the OP. It is simply following the rules of the forums (which is not a public space, nor is it a U.S. government forum, thus they are allowed to create and moderate as they will regardless of how many interpret the U.S. Constitution to say about speech).

tldr: You are an oppressor

[vryxnr]

tldr: You are an oppressor

Clearly you didn't read it, which is sad. How are we going to solve these issues if we don't communicate (which is a multi-directional activity). Also, name calling is a report-able offence.

Please do not play victim by trying to get reported/thread locked/banned so you can then turn around and say "see, they're silencing me and oppressing me because they know they're wrong!". That is disingenuous and I hope that you are better than that.

One of the saddest things when it comes to trying to elicit positive change in society is when potential allies are ostracized because they don't 100% completely conform or can admit that there is nuance.

[adamkatt]

A lot of people say, “What’s that?” It’s Pat!
A lot of people ask, “Who’s he? Or she?”
A ma’am or a sir, accept him or her
or whatever it might be.
It’s time for androgyny.
Here comes Pat!

[droid327]

You're joking, right?

Yeah op is being satirical

But there's commentary in the mere fact that satire and sincerity are so indistinguishable...

[thedip]

In a game that encourages:

Genocide (Slayer areas, the more that you kill the more powerful you become).
Infanticide (Smash those Trog eggs Danno!).
Tyranny (I disagree with you, therefore you must die. Might is right)
Ecological destruction (Fox tail anyone? Oh look a beautiful wolf - kill it)
Immolation (Shall we wake those "monsters" and give them a fair fight? No, let's just fireball them where they lie.)
Necromancy (Let's create another undead creature, there aren't enough in the world)
Etc....

And discourages
Stealthy non violent solutions
Talking strategies
Etc...


Not to forget ageism, ableism, and lots of other ism(s) that the game ignores.

.....And the patriarch and self identification is what you are worried about?

It's a game, play it if you are having fun or don't if it doesn't fit your world view.

[noinfo]

When am I going to be able to choose a non binary gender for my character? its 2022, its time to quit being opressors.

You are supporting the binaries just by using a computer!

Prejudice against binary is what leads to Terminator and the Matrix, you already have to prove you are not a robot just to access parts of the internet and now this! You are infact the Oppressor and the machines will have their say.

[mikarddo]

When am I going to be able to choose a non binary gender for my character? its 2022, its time to quit being opressors.

Stop being silly and just play the game - or dont if you are that easily offended. Most of all, stop telling others - in this case SSG - what to do. Thats the real oppression.

[PaddyMaxson]

Pretty sure op is trolling as the post bears a bunch of hallmarks of mad "this is what leftists actually think" straw man nonsense

....But if you want to be enby just be Dragonborn. They have top and twink, rather than male and female.

[TitusOvid]

I can't believe I am able to write this as post #29. But ...
in before closed.

Cheers,
Titus.

[Ulfo]

tldr: You are an oppressor

Reported too? 8)

Stop being silly and just play the game - or dont if you are that easily offended. Most of all, stop telling others - in this case SSG - what to do. Thats the real oppression.

Can't say better myself.

[Hobgoblin]

welllllllll i thought of several responses to this thread and will go through each and let people think which is best


first and it has to be said: @#$^%% off

thats out of the system

so the nonsensical: Cordovans mother wears combat boots

Now for the religious part: God created 2 genders and thats it. if you dont believe this then you are going to hell

Political part: you dang commie leftists are what are ruining this country

political part 2: if you dont support this you are a heartless conservative member of the patriarchy

Final part: its the way the game is, if you dont like it dont play

[Ghwyn]

When am I going to be able to choose a non binary gender for my character? its 2022, its time to quit being opressors.

There are only two genders. Fake genders are nothing but feelings, so pretend whatever fake gender you want to play. Sorry if simple science is too difficult for you.

[Hobgoblin]

There are only two genders. Fake genders are nothing but feelings, so pretend whatever fake gender you want to play. Sorry if simple science is too difficult for you.

ok science boy


gender is a social construct so science has nothing to do with it.


now if you were talking about sexes you might have a leg to stand on

[Ghwyn]

ok science boy


gender is a social construct so science has nothing to do with it.


now if you were talking about sexes you might have a leg to stand on

Play the definition game and you are only showing your own intellectual dishonesty. Gender is based upon sex. Deal with the facts.

[Memnir]

Quit supporting the patriarchy and binaries!

Reads thread:

Reported

tldr: You are an oppressor

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[Hobgoblin]

Play the definition game and you are only showing your own intellectual dishonesty. Gender is based upon sex. Deal with the facts.

https://www.euro.who.int/en/health-t...er-definitions

https://www.medicinenet.com/what_are...rs/article.htm

but please go on. lets make sure the thread is nuked from orbit!

[Hobgoblin]

Reads thread:


(space reserved)

i think i rolled a 1 on my roll to avoid responding.....

[Ghwyn]

https://www.euro.who.int/en/health-t...er-definitions

https://www.medicinenet.com/what_are...rs/article.htm

but please go on. lets make sure the thread is nuked from orbit!

I hope it does. Politics should not be part of any game.

And no article is going to change scientific facts. Good luck with reality; looks like you are already having a tough time.

[Hobgoblin]

I hope it does. Politics should not be part of any game.

And no article is going to change scientific facts. Good luck with reality; looks like you are already having a tough time.

saying we have a problem with reality is kinda rich considering how much time we spend in a game....

there are no scientific facts. everything is a theory that changes as new information is added

and you are holding on to the past. are you ok? do you still believe that black people are 3/5s of a white person and woman shouldnt have the right to vote?

[Redtalktree]

i think i rolled a 1 on my roll to avoid responding.....

should have taken epic fortitude. Clear not Reaper X ready