epic Against the Demon Queen: Queen Lailat boss bugged (no end chest)

[axel15810]

Here's a clip from my stream if devs reading need to see the bug -

https://clips.twitch.tv/RespectfulBr...gKmD6R1XYiOLSO

Basically boss's health gets to zero and quest completes but she respawns seemingly being unkillable and there's no end chest.

[Stoner81]

Just ran it on EE and same thing has happened.

Stoner81.

[Aelonwy]

its really bugging me that there isn't even a dev acknowledgement of the issue.

[J1NG]

Here's a clip from my stream if devs reading need to see the bug -

https://clips.twitch.tv/RespectfulBr...gKmD6R1XYiOLSO

Basically boss's health gets to zero and quest completes but she respawns seemingly being unkillable and there's no end chest.

A bit late here as I didn't see this got a reply, but... The first thing I notice, is that Lailat is aggro'd on the Owl there. There's a known issue with aggro onto the familiars. :: edit :: What I'm thinking is that she is broken out of her stay out of combat now she's escaping bit, and instead continues to attack on the aggro'd Owl and thus breaks her out of the completion because she isn't removed from the quest. :: further edit :: This would then be similar to how the old Fear Auras would break certain quests and continuations because an enemy was caught in it during a transition. So I'm wondering it that's what is happening here.

How many other runs that failed in a similar fashion had such "summons" out with them?

J1NG

[J1NG]

Just went and brought my Falconry Monk in and did a quick flag for DQ. And during AtDQ, with the bird out, I deliberately stuck her with the bird as the narrator says she vanishes, and jumped away from Lailat, allowing the bird to remain in her proximity and cause her to continue aggro'ing and attacking. EXACTLY as axel15810 video shows.

So it's pretty much confirmed the issue is related to Familiars.

So anyone doing this, unsummon ALL your familiars. Feydark, Falconry, etc. But because DDO treats summons and familiars as the same category, I would refrain from using them too for this until a more permanent solution can be found on the Dev side to prevent this from happening again.

J1NG

:: edit ::
The only other alternative, would be my monk was using the Lord of Blades spear, meaning there's Vulnerability being applied that might impact on it as well as cause. But I imagine it's more familiar than vulnerbaility since we had vulnerability before and never really saw this. So money would still be on familiars.

[Enoach]

@J1NG - good catch and sound advice on workaround

My initial thought would have been with the "I am War, I am Destruction" phase not completing properly. That phase she gets a buff.

But based on the vid, I see why I have not seen this issue - No familiars/summons being used

[BandD]

Same issue happened to my group just now - R1 Epic. Friend and I both had familiars out a falconry tree bird and a feydark cat. So could have been that issue. It was interesting, we ddoored out and ran back up to see again. She was still there and started hitting me with flame strike before I teleported in.

Will try it without the familiars next time. At least it finished. I can handle not getting the tokens or loot, not finishing the quest would have been really annoying.

[J1NG]

So we have a few instances from different players using and not using familiars that seem to support the theory of the issue (Familiars cause Lailat to not despawn and result in no chest as that appears to be tied to Lailat going away which she doesn't with a familar around), so that's good to know there might be something wrong with it and the issue is not likely to be something else.

At least if the Devs didn't know where to look, there's a more narrow road to go down now to find the exact issue and do something about it.

J1NG

[Aelonwy]

So we have a few instances from different players using and not using familiars that seem to support the theory of the issue (Familiars cause Lailat to not despawn and result in no chest as that appears to be tied to Lailat going away which she doesn't with a familar around), so that's good to know there might be something wrong with it and the issue is not likely to be something else.

At least if the Devs didn't know where to look, there's a more narrow road to go down now to find the exact issue and do something about it.

J1NG

Yes its good there's some direction for what the root cause of the issue might be.

I watched this week's Weekly Wednesday Livestream on Youtube yesterday (as I usually can't watch it live) and saw someone brought up this exact issue to Cordovan and apparently he hadn't heard anything about it till the livestream. I thought he at least skimmed the forums semi-weekly? I know they keep saying they're very busy right now but it definitely feels like DDO is on the back burner for whatever is going on.

[Cildar]

Yes its good there's some direction for what the root cause of the issue might be.

I watched this week's Weekly Wednesday Livestream on Youtube yesterday (as I usually can't watch it live) and saw someone brought up this exact issue to Cordovan and apparently he hadn't heard anything about it till the livestream. I thought he at least skimmed the forums semi-weekly? I know they keep saying they're very busy right now but it definitely feels like DDO is on the back burner for whatever is going on.

**** wish I had gone back and read this thread again.... I can confirm that I had a Feydark Illusionist Cat out when it bugged again. Rats.

[Frogbottom]

I've run this quest with two different characters in the past week.
One on Heroic Normal. No pets, no hirelings, no familiars, no creature companions, just me. Lailat bugged out and no end chest.
I also ran it on Epic Normal with the 2nd character, again, just me, no pets or anything and the same thing happened.

[J1NG]

I've run this quest with two different characters in the past week.
One on Heroic Normal. No pets, no hirelings, no familiars, no creature companions, just me. Lailat bugged out and no end chest.
I also ran it on Epic Normal with the 2nd character, again, just me, no pets or anything and the same thing happened.

Most interesting. But your post doesn't really provide any information to work on for potential causes of the issue.

Build (Class Makeup)? Gear? Enhancements?

J1NG

[Fauxknight]

Bugged out for us as well every time we've ran it the past couple of lives. Tried no pets, familiars, or the like last run and it didn't help. Pally and Arti on last run, Arti had access to dog and familiar but had neither out for the whole run.

I don't really see where her having aggro on a third party would affect her in this manner. I mean, it's an outside the box thought, but it doesn't seem to be the case.

[J1NG]

Bugged out for us as well every time we've ran it the past couple of lives. Tried no pets, familiars, or the like last run and it didn't help. Pally and Arti on last run, Arti had access to dog and familiar but had neither out for the whole run.

Thanks for that info.

I don't really see where her having aggro on a third party would affect her in this manner. I mean, it's an outside the box thought, but it doesn't seem to be the case.

The theory is if shes the one casting the spell to remove herself from the run but only does that normally when she isn't needing to aggro on anything else around so can finish the spell effect properly to do so. And the sudden nee aggro could take her out from it.

Incidentally, I did have besides the owl out, also gear that did intercession and spellcast prevention. That's certainly an effect not common before and more prevailent now. And that effect could impact on any spell cast in theory also. So my question now, is how many players have that ability on their toons and a failed run?

J1NG

:: edit ::

The following tests were conducted in an attempt to isolate what potential cause on the player side is on Heroic Elite (for speed):

1. Improved Deception.
2. Improved Destruction.
3. Vulnerability.
4. Sentient Weapon.
5. Non Sentient Weapon.
6. Familiar/Summon.

Variations of the above tested and the runs still fail (Lailat remains in AtDQ at the end).

Still to test (to eliminate player side as the issue):

A. Lower dps (bare basics)
B. Reset Enhancements
C. Reset Destiny
D. Remove Cosmetics

Will do these after the update.

[Aelonwy]

So essentially, we still don't have any clue what is causing the issue?

Has ANYONE been able to successfully complete the raid recently?

And still NO dev acknowledgement of this issue?

[Krelar]

So essentially, we still don't have any clue what is causing the issue?

Has ANYONE been able to successfully complete the raid recently?

And still NO dev acknowledgement of this issue?

The raid is fine. (At least for me)


It's the pre-raid flagging quest that is having trouble.
You still complete it, you just don't get an end chest.

For another minor data point, this happened to me a couple days ago.

Zergging on heroic elite with a level ~22 toon, just so I could get flagged.

Aura warlock, no familars, pets, or summons.

[Aelonwy]

The raid is fine. (At least for me)


It's the pre-raid flagging quest that is having trouble.
You still complete it, you just don't get an end chest.

Ty I had the misapprehension that it was the raid too.

[cmckronos]

I had the same thing happen in heroic as a pure fighter, no familiar, no other people / summons in party. I blamed it on DPS/killing her too fast/lag but didn't try again to see (favor cleanup) and instead moved on to something else.

[ahpook]

Thanks for that info.

....

I don't know if this helps with your data but I ran this twice in the past month and both times it bugged

Run 1: Level 28 Warlock with carceri storm pact, Epic R2. Solo Run. Character used eldritch blast or cone and spells. No weapon attacks but does use sentient queens scepter. Has a feydark familiar but it was not summoned.

Run 2: Level 16 Inquisitive (Ranger, Arti, Rogue), Heroic R2. Solo Run but had cleric parked at shrine. No familiars or pets. Cross bow attacks using rat catcher.


I don't seem much cross over between those two runs to point to a player triggered issue.

I am not certain if this is always happening or if there are cases where there are successful runs. If the latter, you may want to check the order of the rooms in case that is a factor.

[yoderc]

I had the same bug, EE on Feb 20th. I solo'd (with Frogo) so i'm sure the cause wasn't killed-her-too-quick.
Well, I had the lvl 27 cleric, too, but wouldn't count much for her dps
Gland