Fastest 6.6 million XP? Lots of Epic Reincarnations to go...

[Certon]

I'm still looking at Epic Reincarnating 11 more times, and I want to know if anyone here has a 'path' they follow for the quickest XP, because, frankly, the experience tends to feel a bit drawn out.

I've done the basic stuff. I have a Greater Tome of Epic Learning and Voice of the Master. How can I get this XP ground out faster?

[slarden]

Motu Sagas - run EE only.

[Erofen]

Von 3> Wizking> Spies> Repeat x50> Otto's Stone

[Seikojin]

Ering is long and drawn out. I would alternate between quests and explorers until more epic content is released. Also sagas give ok exp for ee runs.

[Certon]

Ering is long and drawn out. I would alternate between quests and explorers until more epic content is released. Also sagas give ok exp for ee runs.

My biggest worry is I don't get it done before the cap is increased to 30. :/

[FAQ]

**cough** buy my otto's box from ASHA **cough**

Other than that, I hear Epic Saga XP really helps

[Alavatar]

My experience is that it is faster xp gain to do all Forgotten Realms quests on EH x 2 or 3 (plus saga rewards) for an EPL than doing EE, simply due to the time of quest completion. Assuming +30%-50% pots, VotM or equivalent, 5% ship buff, the bigger tome of learning, and +10% VIP.

[slarden]

My experience is that it is faster xp gain to do all Forgotten Realms quests on EH x 2 or 3 (plus saga rewards) for an EPL than doing EE, simply due to the time of quest completion. Assuming +30%-50% pots, VotM or equivalent, 5% ship buff, the bigger tome of learning, and +10% VIP.

The saga xp is much better for True Elite vs. Hard. It would be tough for me to give up that nice boost to start out a new epic life.

[Alavatar]

The saga xp is much better for True Elite vs. Hard. It would be tough for me to give up that nice boost to start out a new epic life.

From a time of completion perspective, in my experience, the speed increase of completing Epic Hard is high enough that the xp gain per minute/hour is higher on EH than on EE. Sure, you do more quests, but overall the time spent is lower to get to 6.6 million.

Once again, that is my experience.

[Nayus]

I'm still looking at Epic Reincarnating 11 more times, and I want to know if anyone here has a 'path' they follow for the quickest XP, because, frankly, the experience tends to feel a bit drawn out.

I've done the basic stuff. I have a Greater Tome of Epic Learning and Voice of the Master. How can I get this XP ground out faster?

All I can say is: Running to Level 28 takes a lot of playtime, a lot, especially if you're plannng to get infinite Past Lives, so just have fun and run whatever sounds interesting, don't follow a repetition path, you'll run out of motivation before you reach your goal. It won't really matter if your eTR take a couple days longer.

The Devs said somewhere the Epic XP necessary to reach level 30 will still be 6,6kk and they'll just adjust the curve. Of course, you can't trust the Devs but this might give you some peace of mind.

Also, what's the point of running the highest level content in the game if you're just grinding XP.... at least make it look like "Epic".

[Certon]

All I can say is: Running to Level 28 takes a lot of playtime, a lot, especially if you're plannng to get infinite Past Lives, so just have fun and run whatever sounds interesting, don't follow a repetition path, you'll run out of motivation before you reach your goal. It won't really matter if your eTR take a couple days longer.

The Devs said somewhere the Epic XP necessary to reach level 30 will still be 6,6kk and they'll just adjust the curve. Of course, you can't trust the Devs but this might give you some peace of mind.

Also, what's the point of running the highest level content in the game if you're just grinding XP.... at least make it look like "Epic".

Twelve Epic PLs is all I'm looking for. Three from each sphere. That fourth twist slot is so tempting...

Once I'm done with that, I might pursue one of each heroic PL, though that is still up for consideration.

[Kylstrem]

Learn how to do Through a Mirror Darkly very fast. If you look at the map on the wiki while you run it, you can quickly get all the orbs while getting the 4 journal pages and killing the beholder. You could add about 20K XP to the two runs if you slow down to kill Aurlace, but I D-door out of there as it takes too long. If you could get two people, you could split up.

Two normal runs takes about 20-25 minutes and will get you 225,000XP with a 50% pot.

What Goes UP can go pretty fast... about 25 minutes for a single run on normal if you are soloing... faster if you can get a group... gets you about 200K XP with a 50% pot. You can invisible yourself all the way to the first shrine where you port through to the place where you have to find Oriphaun and the crest. Do the optional here... worth a ton of XP to kill that rare. and if you found the first jeweled key while inviso'ing through the first part, that's another quick chunk of XP.

[Spoonwelder]

Von 3> Wizking> Spies> Repeat x50> Otto's Stone

80k(depends on opts)+100k+80k = 260k -> so to get to 6.6M = 25.4 times but lower result if you run more than daily and better if your better run pots also more XP but slightly slower on EH
15min +15min+10min = 40min x 25 = 1000 min or 16 play hours


My favorite path is to do all the saga quests....MOTU, Druids, High Road, GH (and/or 3BC if you like), Wheloon, Stormhorns - by the time you are done you are **** close to cap....on the way I usually fit in a few raids, one or two Von5s' which helps fill it in....then don't take the Saga rewards - ETR hit 50% pot/ship/voice - pickup all sagas and you are pretty close to if not already at 23 already (depends if EE or EH sagas) then start again. That said I have other characters at cap picking up seeds so I don't have to spend any time at cap. If I didn't have that option I would consider tweaking it to take the Motu saga earlier to help get to cap then rerun those quests for seeds as they are all pretty fast quests once at cap (11 quests - so 22seeds in about 2 hours or less) and you should have enough comms from running up to fill in most of the rest of the need for a heart plus the saga filled in again.

[dontmater]

TR (run 1/3rd epic stuff)- epic reincarnate (run 2/3rds epic stuff) -epic reincarnate (run all epic stuff)

split up the BB and first time compleations

then repeat

[EllisDee37]

There are no overlevel penalties for epic quests. Meaning a level 27 still gets full xp from running a level 20 quest on EN. With that in mind, here's a (partial) list of high xp/minute epic quests, factoring in the time it takes to run to them given the ability to teleport, greater teleport, and key to eveningstar:

Very Good (>5k/minute)
Spies in the House
VON3
WizKing
Impossible Demands
Rusted Blades

Good (>4k/minute)
An Offering of Blood
Fathom the Depths
Death Undone (may need to drag along the level 23 or 24 rogue hire to hit the 80 open lock)
Trial By Fury
Trial By Fire
Tor
Outbreak
Druid's Curse

Acceptable (>3k/minute)
Thorn and Paw
Overgrowth
Claw of Vulkoor
Big Top
Unquiet Graves
Lords of Dust
Deal and the Demon
Closing the Rift
Don't Drink the Water

I believe Through a Mirror Darkly ends up in the "good" category, but I haven't been including it in my xp farming. (Which is thankfully done for the time being.) Some quests feel like they might be good, but after running a few time trials I found them to be <3k/minute and so discarded them. (Most were in the 2500-2800/minute range.)

Poor
Bargain of Blood (long run out to it, very low xp)
Snitch (it's fun enough to include in a circuit, but it actually takes longer than it feels)


Over the past weekend, with the epic xp bonus days, I buckled down and farmed out 4 million xp to finish off my main's last martial past life. It ended up being five circuits, all between 40-55 minutes long, to maximize my old-style ship buffs. (Namely the 5% xp shrine.) Other than the ones listed above, the Gianthold and High Road quests were barely good enough to include.

Circuit 1
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 - Trial By Fire (second teleporter option from NPC)
    - GT back to Gianthold
 - Cry for Help (first teleporter option from NPC)
    - GT back to Gianthold
 - Cabal for One (super low xp/minute; switching to Feast or Famine might be better)
    - GT back to Gianthold
 - Tor
 
Circuit 2
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 - Key to Eveningstar, acquire all quests in this circuit before starting if needed
 - Rest Stop
 - A Stay at the Inn
 - Lost in the Swamp
 - Impossible Demands
 - Unquiet Graves
   - Acquire MotU quests for circuit 4 (rusted/death/trial/deal/reclaiming)

Circuit 3
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 - VON3
   - Key to Eveningstar, sell/repair at bar
   - Acquire Oubreak & Overgrowth if needed
 - Outbreak
 - Overgrowth
   - Sell/repair
 - Thorn and Paw
 - Druid's Curse
   - Collect 3 cleric comms (unbound DW pots)
   - Re-acquire chain, outbreak and overgrowth

Circuit 4
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 - Lords of Dust
 - Rusted Blades
   - Recall once
 - Death Undone
   - Recall twice, enter demonweb
 - Trial By Fury
 - Deal and the Demon
 - Reclaiming the Rift
   - Key to Eveningstar
 - Don't Drink the Water
   - Collect rewards and re-acquire all quests in this circuit

Circuit 5
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 - Offering of Blood
   - GT back to zawabi, re-acquire, teleport to House P
 - Big Top
   - Gate 1: Straight (Blue = Yellow X)
   - Gate 2: Left (Green = White Triangle) Right (Yellow = Red Diamond)
   - Gate 3: Right (Orange = Green Circle) Left (Purple = Yellow Square)
   - Re-acquire, house teleporter to Kundarak, sell/repair in Fens
 - Fathom the Depths
 - Claw of Vulkoor
   - Teleport to Deneith
 - Spies in the House

With my 5% cannith pots, master's gift, 5% ship buff and bonus weekend, this generated a little over a million xp a day.

If I ran EE and wasn't soloing, I would probably focus on True Elite sagas instead of blasting through for fast completions.

EDIT: Running 26 different quests each day definitely solves the "too repetitive" problem of xp farming, but fair warning that blasting through all five circuits each day gets very grindy very fast. After four days I was super stoked to be finished.

[Singular]

The Devs said somewhere the Epic XP necessary to reach level 30 will still be 6,6kk and they'll just adjust the curve. Of course, you can't trust the Devs but this might give you some peace of mind.

Wow, did they seriously make that commitment? All that does is increase power creep if that's true.

[Nickademus]

My biggest worry is I don't get it done before the cap is increased to 30. :/

I heard that when the cap increases to lvl 30 the experience needed for each level was going to be scaled down so that 20-to-cap still only takes 6.6m xp. No need to rush.

[Thalone]

Someone posted EN solo XP/min for many quests. I've gotten my daily to-do stuff to 600k over 2-2.5 hours, so 4-5k per minute overall. The popular stuff where you can split up really benefits from a party. I also do Claw/Fathom/A Legend Revisted solo stealth (doesn't feel kosher to have the party stand at the entrance...). Then once I get to level 25-26, I start filling out sagas to prep for the next ER.

Also, if you haven't done Eveningstar Challenges, they're all ~100k/10 minutes or ~50k/5 minutes on six stars. I believe the XP is halved for subsequent completions; if that's true, they're still 5k/min on repeats. No Commendations though...

I believe Through a Mirror Darkly ends up in the "good" category, but I haven't been including it in my xp farming.

I typically stealth Mirror for Devious; with the book/beholder optionals, it's ~80k/10 minutes with no pot. Haunted Halls standard is also pretty quick if you can detect secret doors/stealth/split a party; maybe 4k/min.

[dontmater]

there might not be over lv issues BUT you can still get BB's if done right

[EllisDee37]

I typically stealth Mirror for Devious; with the book/beholder optionals, it's ~80k/10 minutes with no pot.

My chief concern is getting there without spending astral shards. There's a solid 15 minutes at least left over in my "high road" circuit; hitting mirror darkly to start that circuit (after key, before heading to high road) isn't out of the way at all, but how long does it take just to get to mirror darkly from the time you finish keying into eveningstar?