The Beginning of The End

[Ungood]

Except they probably won't, and turbine loses that customer.

I have to totally agree with you on this.

[Charononus]

I have to totally agree with you on this.

I feel dirty.

[Ungood]

I feel dirty.

If it makes you feel better, agreeing with you was not on my list of things to do today, so you made me overwork.

[Dandonk]

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning."

[Charononus]

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning."

No ungood and I agreed, it is now the beggining of the end, let ride the four horsemen.

[DunkleNymphe]

The world would be a much simpler place if every law was enforced by the death penalty (or ban hammer in the case of a video game since that is as close to killing a person as they can do over the internet). All that would be left were lawful personalities and everyone would know to take the rules seriously.

No, there simply won't be anyone left at all.
There is no such thing as a lawful personality. That's an illusion.

But, actually, come to think of it, I am starting to like the idea that just everybody should be banned. Everyone. I can then finally create new characters with the names that I want on every server.

[01000010]

If youre bright enough(doesn't take a genius) to perform an exploit over and over again, you are also bright enough to know youre exploiting, even if you lack the moral compass to know its wrong you know exploiting is against the rules and should expect repercussions when caught.

Even my 4 yr old knows better than to do many things that are not allowed despite being fun/rewarding, like drawing on her walls with crayons, I think she learned that at 2 yrs old. Cant the players in this game attempt to be as responsible as a 2 yr old at least? Cause and effect, grow up. Take it like a man (an adult).

[patang01]

Well I've read most of the moral yadda-yadda people been talking about in the forums about the exploit. This is not the first big exploit that I've seen on DDO and I'm pretty sure it won't be the last. To me, what matters is simple: this could be the beginning of the end for Dungeons and Dragons Online.

I don't know how Turbine will handle this but from what I've seen on G-land (the server the exploiters didn't hurt as much as others so far) there were just TOO MANY people using the exploit. WAY TOO MANY. People have talked about permabans and such but I'm sure Turbine cannot permaban the exploiters. As said on other threads, the game would become a wasteland.

I've read people criticizing Turbine for how they handled this but, trust me, so far they did the right thing, except for the fact they should have closed the gameworlds unless the hotfix was really hard to develop. They can ban people for 3-14 days and stuff but more than that (and banning ALL the exploiters) will be like shooting their own feet with a handgun.

I was around when the Mabar ban-a-pallooza happened, and got banned too even though I didn't do anything. I saw the chest-a-pallooza and saw DOOMERS saying it was DDO's DOOM. But it didn't happen. This time is different though. Information about the exploit has been around for a week or so and it got even worse in the past 3 days.

Well, lets wait and see what Turbine will do. This was the worst and biggest exploit I've ever seen in these 3 or so years I've been playing the game. But this time I believe only Turbine can save DDO by not turning the servers into ghostowns.

This could really be the beginning of the end for DDO.

The doom will be no real reason to run level 28 characters.
Exploits? There's a reason why I'm seriously contemplating logging in every night. And it's not exploits.

[Memnir]

[NaturalHazard]

No ungood and I agreed, it is now the beggining of the end, let ride the four horsemen.

The end is nigh!!!!

[QuantumFX]

This thread really needs a theme song. I nominate the following:

[Soulfurnace]

No, this is the theme song!

[Ryiah]

I have a lawful personality and thus feel compelled to follow the rules. When a rule is not enforced it means I know I don't need to follow it, but since it is still a rule I feel like I should.

But are you Lawful Good, Lawful Neutral, or Lawful Evil? This snippet concerning Lawful Evil from the Wikipedia is rather interesting.

Characters of this alignment see a well-ordered system as being easier to exploit, and show a combination of desirable and undesirable traits; while they usually obey their superiors and keep their word, they care nothing for the rights and freedoms of other individuals and are not averse to twisting the rules to work in their favor.

[Uska]

They have to be careful about handing out bans that are too long because if a person is banned long enough to break the habit of logging into DDO there is a reasonable chance they will never come back. DDO does not have a lot to offer people at the moment other than a temporary fix for their addiction. If you ban someone long enough that they get over their DDO withdrawl they may never return.

People who did this before the launcher warning should get a 30 day ban and loss of all plat and ingredients any after the waring perma ban and if they try a new account with a credit card linked to the banned account/accounts ban that to.

[Uska]

The reason that the game wasn't shut down is that it isn't a big deal. Except for trading collectables for pots, the only thing that could be duped were things that equal to cosmetics. So, someone got that dragonscale they don't actually need. Who cares? It's simply cosmetic.

Cheaters should be banned period no matter what espcially after a warning.

[Uska]

Corporations are not righteous. They do what is best for the bottom line. The only question they need to ask is will they make more or less money if they ban everyone that was involved. I am guessing banning everyone would lower profits overall so I am guessing they will not do it. On the bright side I neither duped nor purchased anything that could be duped in the past 6 months so I know whatever they do will have no effect on me personally, though if they do ban a bunch of players it could affect my ability to fill up the PUG's I start so I would rather they avoided mass bans.

I would rather the game close than to allow cheating jerks to think they can do what they want.

[Uska]

Banning the kind of people who did this is unlikely to hurt LFM's much on any server as they are likely the kind of people who solo or just group with their own little circle most of the time.

[Soulfurnace]

But are you Lawful Good, Lawful Neutral, or Lawful Evil? This snippet concerning Lawful Evil from the Wikipedia is rather interesting.

That sums me up.

Or neutral evil, one of the two.

[FlaviusMaximus]

People who did this before the launcher warning should get a 30 day ban and loss of all plat and ingredients any after the waring perma ban and if they try a new account with a credit card linked to the banned account/accounts ban that to.

Yes, because people didn't know they were using an exploit and that there would probably be repercussions for it until an announcement went up on the launcher. Come on now.

[Gauthaag]

id like to know how many of those "righteous ones" calling loudly for death penalty wont never buy shroud blanks, ingerdients, augments and whatever else u can get derrived from baggables (u know u can even get regular loot for some) again, because u can always doubt about origin of those?