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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrudh View Post

    Give us some links to posts of yours that got a lot of neg rep, so we can see if you are being unfairly prosecuted
    Just for fun I looked at the OPs last six posts.

    http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p...postcount=2979
    Thank you for looking into this. Please DO NOT boost guild renown for everyone, but ONLY for those guilds that experienced the decay.
    I wouldn't have neg repped that, but I can see why someone would. Since it doesn't hurt anyone if someone else gets guild rep, that comes off as bitter and as an attack on other players. I'm not sure its deserved...but its definately in the gray zone.

    I didn't notice anything else recent that I would have even considered neg repping so I'd be currious as well to see what post(s) the OP is talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gkar View Post
    I wouldn't have neg repped that, but I can see why someone would. Since it doesn't hurt anyone if someone else gets guild rep, that comes off as bitter and as an attack on other players. I'm not sure its deserved...but its definately in the gray zone.
    To me that post appears more a plea for fairness. Giving all guilds a boost due to the losses of a few can been viewed as profiting from the misfortune of others. I see nothing bitter or aggressive in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gkar View Post

    In my experience, about 90% of the time when I look at what I received a neg rep point for I can, if I stand back, see that it does in fact violate forum guidelines (often because I was rude or snarky and was at least into the "gray" zone of forum conduct)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrudh View Post
    I do not believe this is true at all...

    I go against the crowd all the time, and I rarely get negative rep. The times I do get negative rep is when I cross a line, and say something insulting (not just disagreeing). I also only hand out neg rep when someone is insulting, not because I disagree with them.

    80% of the neg rep I get is deserved, and the other 20% I get removed by reporting the post, and asking the mods to remove it.
    Wow!

    Over the years I've been posting on these forums {Over 2000 posts now} and as you know I'm hardly Mr Popular!
    I've reported EVERY SINGLE Neg Rep I've received!
    I can count on the Fingers of ONE HAND the Negs that HAVEN'T been removed!

    Now take a look at my forum rep bar - I still CANNOT give out Neg Rep! - If I feel a poster has gone too far I Report them!
    The rest is up to the Mods {And I've never had a Report come back at me either}.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bartharok View Post
    The trouble is, the things that get negrepped in this scenario are negreppable, but it may be from a thread that has been dead for 6 months+. So they are perfectly valid negreps, in theory.
    No offense to you as I have not negged you, but you did not help your case on Wed. (When U17 came out and people were lining up complaining about different things).

    When you tell these fokes "sucks to be you", you will not make many friends on the forums.

    In theory, me posting this may get me pos rep from people that feel you are a troll. Or if you are more "popular" than me maybe I will see a bunch of red. Either it does not matter. Popularity contests were over for me about 16 years ago when I graduated High School.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forzah View Post
    Meh, only way to get high rep is by saying boring things that everyone agrees with, or by making an awesome joke.

    Unfortunately, I'm good at neither
    You could post cute pictures and get rep like one guy does or do guides. Wish I had the talent to do either.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan_Milic View Post
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    Reputation is a stupid and unnecessary system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derailment View Post
    I never tried because when I get red box, I know I deserved it.
    most of mine I do but some just because I disagreed with someone else's point of view.


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    *Dr. repper intro music*

    If you look around these days, there seems to be a neg repper craze.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan_Milic View Post
    Did it work for anyone?
    Every time I've contested bad rep it's been overturned...

    For clarity's sake I have to admit that I've not reported all negrep I've gotten. I review my post first to see what the objection is. If I can see why it was negged I let it slide and learn from the experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sebastianosmith View Post
    To me that post appears more a plea for fairness. Giving all guilds a boost due to the losses of a few can been viewed as profiting from the misfortune of others. I see nothing bitter or aggressive in it.
    As I said, that's why I wouldn't have neg repped it.

    However, since it doesn't hurt the OP at all for other guilds to get rep, saying that they shouldn't does seem a bit mean spirited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eonfreon View Post
    I wonder if someone gives negrep to be nasty, and that neg is challenged like you did and is taken away, if the person that gave the negrep would at least get some kind of warning.

    Well,the Devs won't comment on those things so I suppose it's just idle speculation. Would be nice if they got some warning. I'm sure the Devs can see who gave the unjustified negrep. I remember hearing about a glitch where everyone got to see who gave them rep awhile back.
    I don't have a link to the post but a few years back one of the devs said that rep points are logged and that they do keep a "tab" on who is giving neg rep and whether it's warranted or not.
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    I didn't even know there was a forum rep system until recently, and it actually made me laugh because I knew as soon as I found out it would be useless. With trolls, griefers and haters online there is no way of making the system credible unless you remove the element of being anonymous. People have the feeling of safety and security in these types of anonymous systems which encourages bad behaviour with little or no actual repercussion for their actions.

    Therefore the system is flawed and doomed to fail right from the start IMO.

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    Too often negative reputation is sent for disagreeing with someone, rather than for violating the stated forum reputation rules, as has already been posted.

    I have requested negative reputation be removed. When the post that got negative reputation was reviewed by the mods and found to be within the guidelines for posting, the mods removed the negative reputation for me. I feel grateful for that.

    I no longer care much about forum reputation, to be honest. There are people on the forums who will throw around negative reputation to anyone who disagrees with their point of view, as others have already pointed out. There are some who grant reputation for silly jokes, as others have already pointed out. Seldom do thoughtful, concise, and appropriate responses get positive reputation, at least from what I have experienced and as other have already pointed out.

    No worries. The forums are still a good place to get information, find answers to questions, and enjoy the company of other decent people. That's despite the seemingly endless stream of negativity some people bring here. After a while, one can learn who is knowledgeable, who is constantly negative, who has their own agenda and doesn't care what others think, and who is just a joker looking to make everything funny. Takes a bit of thinking and a bit of time, is all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eonfreon View Post
    I wonder if someone gives negrep to be nasty, and that neg is challenged like you did and is taken away, if the person that gave the negrep would at least get some kind of warning.

    Well,the Devs won't comment on those things so I suppose it's just idle speculation. Would be nice if they got some warning. I'm sure the Devs can see who gave the unjustified negrep. I remember hearing about a glitch where everyone got to see who gave them rep awhile back.
    Um...I know I'm not supposed to talk about discipline but it is probably in everyone's interest in this case so I hope the mods let it go... yeah, I have concreate reason to believe that they do know who gives rep and that that the giver of rep can face discipline for improper rep.

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    Personally, I think the Rep system has done a fair amount for the forums. Its primary purpose, at this point, is as a tool to let people know when they are, in the eyes of the community, being a poor community member. The fact that the rep has zero to almost zero impact in functional ability is secondary. It is the non-engaging message that says that some portion of the community does not appreciate what you are bringing to the table.

    I am, myself, more than happy to give out rep positive and negative along that criteria. And, while this was not always true, I frequently find that when I am attempting to give out neg rep I get the "you must spread out rep" error which tells me that it is a relatively small handful of people who are repeatedly and continuously poor community members. And the only reason I neg rep is when folks are insulting or derogatory. Not to me, since I rarely engage in arguments, but just in general.

    Positive rep is a whole different discussion, though.
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    Don't sweat it, I posted something somewhat controversial, a few trolls got their little panties in a wad, and bingo! Instant -39 rep. I laughed at them and turned my rep off
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    Rep is basically a reflection on how much of a positive contributing member of the forum community you have been over the years. Contributions come in many forms. Informative posts, humorous posts, well thought out suggestions, all add to the positive side of the forums. Posts with offensive language and insults do not. Unlike a daily newpaper forum talking about politics with everyone taking sides and voting thumbs or down depending on red or blue, yes or no much like a poll, here the vast majority of posts are rightly in the middle of just being there. Very good stuff should be acknowledged since it also helps the poster know that you appreciate what they did, and stuff that is not good and negative should be marked as such as well.

    Having difference of opinion is not cause for bad rep. If you look at the actual descriptions of pos and neg on the toggle button, the words are pretty clear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vint View Post
    No offense to you as I have not negged you, but you did not help your case on Wed. (When U17 came out and people were lining up complaining about different things).

    When you tell these fokes "sucks to be you", you will not make many friends on the forums.

    In theory, me posting this may get me pos rep from people that feel you are a troll. Or if you are more "popular" than me maybe I will see a bunch of red. Either it does not matter. Popularity contests were over for me about 16 years ago when I graduated High School.
    Nah, didnt get any negrep for that. well actually i did, but of a kind that is perfectly valid in my book. Youre more likely to get pos rep than negrep for this pots i think, since my basic stance is not one that is popular. Namely: its a game, play and have fun.

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    You can report your own posts if you believe that they got undeserved neg rep. A moderator will analyse it and clean it up for you. It has worked for me before.
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