Booted from party because of a share request

[zhanruiqi]

/rant on
Hmm, I am currently playing on Thelanis and I have been playing for a couple of years now (at least since U6-8 I think)..

Funny thing happened the other day, someone booted me just because I asked for a share.. without any questions asked... That kind of ticked me off and it's no wonder that I see less and less PUGs up, even for favor farming as it was.

Anyway, why do people not share quests anymore? It would take longer to find the quest giver and click through dialogue, Then walk over to the quest entrance, compared to just pressing a key and click share... saves time for everyone...

geez..is it like that on other servers too?

turbine must make a load of money on pug-avert soloers going VIP just because of this...
/rant off.

[umeannothing]

/rant on
Hmm, I am currently playing on Thelanis and I have been playing for a couple of years now (at least since U6-8 I think)..

Funny thing happened the other day, someone booted me just because I asked for a share.. without any questions asked... That kind of ticked me off and it's no wonder that I see less and less PUGs up, even for favor farming as it was.

Anyway, why do people not share quests anymore? It would take longer to find the quest giver and click through dialogue, Then walk over to the quest entrance, compared to just pressing a key and click share... saves time for everyone...

geez..is it like that on other servers too?

turbine must make a load of money on pug-avert soloers going VIP just because of this...
/rant off.

I can answer from my perspective:

I took the time to gather all the quests in the zone I am looking for in the zone I have an LFM for.

I personally think asking for a share is like being invited into a persons home, and then asking if they would share their underwear with you.

I would rather wait the couple minutes it would take a person to come prepared while the LFM fills, than see "share plz".

Now, I have not yet booted anyone from my LFM for it on the first, or even third "share plz" but by that time I am getting annoyed and would not care how good they were, even a cleric, I would look for any reason to get rid of what feels to be a 1/2 lazy member.

The times I WILL boot a person from the group is when the first "share plz" makes me grind teeth, so I stop, open quest log, and share ALL the quests in the zone I plan to run with the group with, and still get a "share plz" on the second quest.

P.S. I won't waste my time sharing until the group fills, no matter how many times you ask, because I will only do it once.

[smallstones]

Yes, many people get bothered by the "share plz", Some will be kind and share it. But when it is the first words out of your mouth, or even the first line like "Hello all, share plz." people take this as you are being lazy, and can boot.

Me, I take a different approach. If you ask "share plz" and don't specify what you want shared, I'll share all of Korthos, Harbor, Market and somewhere in there I might or might not share the quest we are doing...

Many people have come back from an AFK to wonder what happened...

[umeannothing]

Yes, many people get bothered by the "share plz", Some will be kind and share it. But when it is the first words out of your mouth, or even the first line like "Hello all, share plz." people take this as you are being lazy, and can boot.

Me, I take a different approach. If you ask "share plz" and don't specify what you want shared, I'll share all of Korthos, Harbor, Market and somewhere in there I might or might not share the quest we are doing...

Many people have come back from an AFK to wonder what happened...

I am going to steal this idea from you.

Oh the irony. Still chuckling.

[Kmnh]

"shr plz" should be added to the word filter.

I usually don't boot people. When a terrible pug acts like a spoiled 13 year old, I let him come along and watch him fail. Badly. Multiple times. The chuckles I get out of it are usually worth it. They often ragequit before completion

[twiliteslayer02]

I dont normally boot for asking, unless its in my lfm to KNOW IT< BE SELF SUFFICIENT,

sort of negates the self suficient part if you cant even pick up the quest, so I sort of assume that you arent serious enuf to party with me, das boot.

Another way to get an insta boot, is to be rude, smartassed, or otherwise abrasive , or to demand the share its all about tone, and politeness.

[lhidda]

/popcorn

[rayworks]

When I lead a party, I usually just hit the share button whenever a party member joins. Its not like it takes any time or real effort to share.

[mystafyi]

if you ask for a share for von3, then insta boot

[porq]

if you ask for a share for von3, then insta boot

Von3 is something of a special case, it has its own filter built in.

Even if you do share but they cant get past the trolls, you know somethings very very wrong.

[FuzzyDuck81]

A few like relic of a sovereign past that are nowhere near the quest entrance, or ones that have particularly long dialogues I'll have no problems sharing to save time, but "shr plz!" for walk-up quests is a no-no though. Often though, its more just a case of how you ask.. "omw, can i get a share to save time pls?" is generally a lot more polite & people dont have problems with that.

One thing i do always do though is to hit share for raids (where they're shareable), as it'll immediately give feedback if people arent flagged or are on timer - I've noticed unflagged people in groups for the new cannith raids a couple of times, often seems to happen in reaver too... and any older player can remember how annoying it used to be at the entry to subT raids when someone says "sorry timer" or "forgot to pick up the quest" before the share function was available

[darkniteyogi]

sometimes i ask for a share in hard to find quests.

I ask nicely and dont say share plz. if no one replies, So ill be trying to find the quest, checking the wiki, run around for minutes until i find it. So there are times it can take a few minutes. Its their loss if im a healer and theyre looking for one.

In some PUGs as well when the leader is in a hurry and u just tag along with no time to get end rewards (like in harbor and early marketplace), then asking for a 2nd share is Ok because there's no notification at all that he already did share the quest.

I only pug in low levels and when i need to. But i try to avoid pugs as much as possible becoz im traumatized from situations like this. You don't know if people are friendly or hostile.

[Mighty_Bozo]

Depends on the kind of pug. If there's a lfm for a vale quest with "know it" and u ask for a share u sure asked for a boot.

[Dandonk]

My personal favourite share story:

We're doing Church and the Cult. Last member gets in party, first thing is "shr plz". /sigh
Oh, well, I share it and we run it, and yes, the "shr plz" was by far the worst player there, but hey, we got it done with not too many problems.
We exit, run and get reward and decide to run again on hard (was before streak).

Guess what the (deleted) gimp said at q entrance?

Yes, you got it.

/boot

[Algreg]

Depends... I do not jump to conclusions and claim you did any of this, but in general, its rather annoying when you put up a lfm like "Bloody Crypt, know the quest" and get a share plz. That would be a instakick-situation for me. In all other cases guess its a mood thing. Personally, and really personally, I consider it rather rude if the first sentence you have to offer to a team you have just been invited is a demand. What about saying hello maybe? Or using full sentences - call me old fashioned, but if someone enters a team like "Hello, could you share the quest please, I cannot remember where the questgiver is" I totally favor it over "share plz", often enough even without a plz.

[learst]

Sometimes I ask for a share when I reached the quest entrance and got a "warning: you're not on the right quest!". It's like "duh!" moment and I ask for a share. This happens sometimes in the subterrane raids where I forgot to stop by the quest.

[MrWizard]

well, if all you said was 'share plz' just like that...well, that usually gets ya booted unless ya know people.
It is not you, but that type of dialogue preludes a player that is usually not a team player, geared, or any good at all.

with that being said, sharing makes it easier for everyone and I usually hit it at some point after people join...why not?

I do not know what quest it was and you do not indicate. It could have been a walk up quest or a quest that is opened by talking to the quest giver. Someone who asks for that to be shared is suspect in the eyes of experienced players who just want to go go go.

Some people are offended by 'share plz' and hate it enough to just drop anyone that says it.
There are some people who are offended if they click join on an lfm and do not get a response.


Your best bet is to just ignore it and play with others. Do not take these things personally and just go your way. Eventually you will find others to group with that are of your temperment and caliber...that is when the game is the best.

[Urjak]

the only time I booted someone from a party for "share plz" was when I was running a ZERG, BYOH, IP, KNOW THE WAY! gianthold walkup quest and the joining party member asked for a share. I mean, seriously, if you know the quest, you know its a walkup quest and thus you will get the quest automatically O_o

generally I get annoyed by ppl asking for shares for walkups and quests that cant be shared (like deleras chain, IP, part2 atm ... shows u got no idea of the game if you ask for a share -.-)

else I dont care and am happy to speed the slow grouping process up

[Cogdoc]

/rant on
Hmm, I am currently playing on Thelanis and I have been playing for a couple of years now (at least since U6-8 I think)..

Funny thing happened the other day, someone booted me just because I asked for a share.. without any questions asked... That kind of ticked me off and it's no wonder that I see less and less PUGs up, even for favor farming as it was.

Anyway, why do people not share quests anymore? It would take longer to find the quest giver and click through dialogue, Then walk over to the quest entrance, compared to just pressing a key and click share... saves time for everyone...

geez..is it like that on other servers too?

turbine must make a load of money on pug-avert soloers going VIP just because of this...
/rant off.

In case you are new, and dont know how it works, let me explain:

1- There is nothing wrong with politely asking: - Ooops guys, I have forgotten to pick up the quest, can I get a share please? - if you really only forgot, and/or the quest giver would be so much out of the way for you, that you would possibly make the whole group wait, while you get the quest yourself.

2- If you deliberately has run past the quest giver, without taking the time to get the quest, why do you expect others to take the time to share the quest with you? This is a clear sign of a selfish player when everyone in the group knows that the quest giver is at the entrance of the quest, for example.

3- What is even worse, if you are completely new to the quest, have absolutely no clue of where the quest giver/quest entrance is, and then you "forget" to mention any of these, but say "share plox" instead of "hello" on joining the group. This will not only show the others that you dont know the quest at all, as mentioned above, but also that you try to hide this fact, and they can expect the same behaviour from you in the quest, so you are possibly not worth taking with the group.

Unfortunately this last case is very common, and made some of the players impatient about this issue. Sometimes if they see a share request, they get on their boots of kicking pretty fast.

As a general rule of thumb, in groups, politeness takes you far. Being up front and honest about things, takes you even further.

Cogdoc

[Razcar]

My personal favourite share story:

We're doing Church and the Cult. Last member gets in party, first thing is "shr plz". /sigh
Oh, well, I share it and we run it, and yes, the "shr plz" was by far the worst player there, but hey, we got it done with not too many problems.
We exit, run and get reward and decide to run again on hard (was before streak).

Guess what the (deleted) gimp said at q entrance?

Yes, you got it.

/boot

But my W button was broken (but now it's working wwwwww) so I could only run backwards and then I got lost running to the quest giver cos I couldnt see where I was going