Screwed by MGL!

**Auran82** · 07-01-2010, 03:36 AM

Originally Posted by Bacab

Yeah...never knew what it was like to be shut-out on my 20th...till my warchanter did not get a Torc on his 20th.

I am hoping that by pretending the Torc HAS to drop...it'll happen.

The funny thing is, on Bacab, I have every VoD item...except the Goggles lol. I even pulled those once and put em up for roll lol. I figured I was almst guaranteed to get the goggles since VoD has such a short list of stuff...

And can't really complain about getting a +3 tome.

But my fear really is...can this fluff/junk be taking Raid loot slots?

It doesn't, its an extra slot on the end.

Just go run one of the IQ quests, if you get renown, it will be the 5th option on a list of 4 things.

**Elfvyra** · 07-01-2010, 07:53 AM

Relax guys and gals... Junk happens. All my 'toons get stuff that they can't use all day long from chests. Like +5 of Sweetness Hide/Leather/Padded armor. ML 14+ exotic weapons that are +1, do a D4 or D6 of damage and only crit on a 20, and then give the mob a save of 14 to save against it's effect.

Those are just a few examples from the multitude of loot I pull everyday. I'm sure everyone who plays the game has had this same thing happen daily. It's just a new form of Vendor fodder.....

**Aurora1979** · 07-01-2010, 08:06 AM

Just to get this straight..... Sinibyte.... do you not like some of the update or something?

Im not 100% maybe you could do another thread or something. Just explain once more what it is you dont like....

Maybe give it another facet.... how about..... Your mate, lets call him Dave, looted an item and he cant use it because......

We get it mate. time to stop reposting with slight variation.

**MrkGrismer** · 07-01-2010, 09:29 AM

I just want to confirm here, for those that don't already know, that Guild Level Restricted items are IN PLACE of other items; that is they show up as one of the things that randomly gets added to random loot. I know this is a fact because I had ALL of my end rewards for one of the quests in House J show up as Guild Level Restricted. Not really happy about that happening within a day of Update 5 coming out. It was a low-level quest and all the items required Guild level 10 or 25 (from what I remember). There was NO option to pick a non-guild level restricted item. Which seems to me to mean there is something 'funky' about how guild level restricted gets put into the random loot.

**SINIBYTE** · 07-01-2010, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by Elfvyra

Relax guys and gals... Junk happens. All my 'toons get stuff that they can't use all day long from chests. Like +5 of Sweetness Hide/Leather/Padded armor. ML 14+ exotic weapons that are +1, do a D4 or D6 of damage and only crit on a 20, and then give the mob a save of 14 to save against it's effect.

Those are just a few examples from the multitude of loot I pull everyday. I'm sure everyone who plays the game has had this same thing happen daily. It's just a new form of Vendor fodder.....

Yes, but on that rare occassion when you pull something nice and worthy, you get excited. Then you find out "oh my guild isnt big enough". It's a **** game mechanic. Imagine your newly rolled rogue pulls a holy of pure good rapier - but it requires MGL45... What a waste of a good item.

It's difficult enough finding decent gear that isn't useless (as you pointed out), and now they add yet another game mechanic to limit the already watered down awful loot table...

**Eladrin** · 07-01-2010, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by SINIBYTE

Been looking for an upgrade to my docent for 4 levels now - finally had something decent drop in "Running with the Devils". I sent a tell to the guy that looted it if I could buy - he said sure, opened trade - I dropped some coin in there, and it was in my bag. MGL: 45. ******.

May want to hold onto that. You might find you'll be able to use it much more easily soon, if the slot is empty.

**LordPiglet** · 07-01-2010, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by Aristalla

From my understanding, (correct me if I am wrong please) it is loot that would not normally have been there. So, pre-U5, you probably wouldn't have gotten a docent from that chest at all; and certainly not the same one.

From what I understand, the Renown is supposed to be in addition to other loot, the guild requirements are just an additional possibility in the random generation engine.

However, I ran Rainbow in the Dark Tuesday. I received a 50 renown token, and no ingrediet.

**Fejj** · 07-01-2010, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by Eladrin

May want to hold onto that. You might find you'll be able to use it much more easily soon, if the slot is empty.

This

**SINIBYTE** · 07-01-2010, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by LordPiglet

From what I understand, the prestige is in addition to other loot, the guild requirements are just an additional possibility in the random generation engine.

Dig around on the forums, someone posted about this, they recieved a full list of items and each and every one of them was MGL. Hasn't happened to me yet (a full list), but I have lost out on some decent gear due to MGL.

**LordPiglet** · 07-01-2010, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by Eladrin

May want to hold onto that. You might find you'll be able to use it much more easily soon, if the slot is empty.

Hooray

**SINIBYTE** · 07-01-2010, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by Eladrin

May want to hold onto that. You might find you'll be able to use it much more easily soon, if the slot is empty.

That would squelch my complaints.

**jadenkorr** · 07-01-2010, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by Eladrin

May want to hold onto that. You might find you'll be able to use it much more easily soon, if the slot is empty.

Woot!

**LordPiglet** · 07-01-2010, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by SINIBYTE

Dig around on the forums, someone posted about this, they recieved a full list of items and each and every one of them was MGL. Hasn't happened to me yet (a full list), but I have lost out on some decent gear due to MGL.

Yeah, I did an edit on my post. I hadn't heard about that person getting a full list of MGL items. I posted the run in had with renown

. However, from Eladrin's posts it sounds like the Dev's are listening to what several of us have brought up and been pointing out regarding MGL.

**Kinerd** · 07-01-2010, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by Eladrin

May want to hold onto that. You might find you'll be able to use it much more easily soon, if the slot is empty.

Of all the words of mice and men...

**Coldin** · 07-01-2010, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by Eladrin

May want to hold onto that. You might find you'll be able to use it much more easily soon, if the slot is empty.

Yay. I'm glad you decided to change your mind about how those guild items worked.

**Zaodan** · 07-01-2010, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by Eladrin

May want to hold onto that. You might find you'll be able to use it much more easily soon, if the slot is empty.

Good choice.

**Fedora** · 07-01-2010, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by Eladrin

May want to hold onto that. You might find you'll be able to use it much more easily soon, if the slot is empty.

Eladrin may get my vote for "Devolper of the Year" award.

**MrkGrismer** · 07-01-2010, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by Eladrin

May want to hold onto that. You might find you'll be able to use it much more easily soon, if the slot is empty.

Whoohoo! We are being listened to!

**Eladiun** · 07-01-2010, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by Eladrin

May want to hold onto that. You might find you'll be able to use it much more easily soon, if the slot is empty.

Good decision guys. Thanks.

**MrkGrismer** · 07-01-2010, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by SINIBYTE

Dig around on the forums, someone posted about this, they recieved a full list of items and each and every one of them was MGL. Hasn't happened to me yet (a full list), but I have lost out on some decent gear due to MGL.

Yeah, that happened to me in House J, one of the low level quests. It was Mirra's Sleepless Nights. The entire end rewards list was red, MGL 10s and 25s.

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