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    Default Dwarven axe feat bug?

    Back ground: I'm leveling a dwarf rogue. I had planned on taking a level of fighter at level 7 which i did. I received EVERY martial weapon feat but dwarven axes. I'm not sure why this is happening. Is it by chance restricted on when i take the level of fighter? I thought i would post this here encase i'm missing something before i put in a bug report.

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    This one is showing my one level of fighter and how i'm getting the "not proficient" warning.



    This one is showing that i have the dwarven axes equipped.



    These ones show that i have no exotic drop down menu and my list of martial weapons feats.
    http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o...roficiency.jpg
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    Dwarven axes are exotic, but I thought Dwarves were "born" with it.

    Edit* You needed to take Fighter or some othe class that gives martial at lvl 1
    Last edited by Janth; 06-22-2010 at 03:40 PM.

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    Didja try relogging?

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    Dwarven Axe feat is only givein to dwarfs with the martial weapon profitency. You wil have to splash in a class that has martial weapons profecency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belvino View Post
    Dwarven Axe feat is only givein to dwarfs with the martial weapon profitency. You wil have to splash in a class that has martial weapons profecency.
    thanks for your help but you should read the thread before posting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rimble View Post
    Didja try relogging?
    tried login out then back in.

    then restarted the game

    then logged onto another server logged out then back into my main server

    and still nothing.

    =(

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belvino View Post
    Dwarven Axe feat is only givein to dwarfs with the martial weapon profitency. You wil have to splash in a class that has martial weapons profecency.
    He did he took a lvl of fighter
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    Quote Originally Posted by Janth View Post
    Dwarven axes are exotic, but I thought Dwarves were "born" with it.

    Edit* You needed to take Fighter or some othe class that gives martial at lvl 1
    no you dont. and im about to prove that in my next post.

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    Default bug

    As a dwarf with a level of Fighter, you are right to think you should have proficiency with Dwarven Axes. Did logging off/on equipping un-equipping help?

    Oh, and fix your equipment! :-) Have fun sneak-chopping the giants there into oblivion :-)
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    Using my vet status i made a level 4 rogue/fighter. my first 3 levels were rogue. my 4th being fighter. This time around it worked! i have no idea why taking this fighter level at 7 is bugging this feat out for me.

    here are the screen shots of the level 4 test toon:

    This screen shot shows the levels.
    http://s117.photobucket.com/albums/o...rent=test1.jpg

    This screen shot shows the exotic weapon feat listed as it should.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Janth View Post
    Edit* You needed to take Fighter or some othe class that gives martial at lvl 1
    Afaik, this (= in red) is wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeToo View Post
    As a dwarf with a level of Fighter, you are right to think you should have proficiency with Dwarven Axes. Did logging off/on equipping un-equipping help?

    Oh, and fix your equipment! :-) Have fun sneak-chopping the giants there into oblivion :-)
    actually un-equiping is something i didnt try. ill log in and give it a shot now and report back asap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrushingInklings View Post
    actually un-equiping is something i didnt try. ill log in and give it a shot now and report back asap.
    Quote Originally Posted by MeToo View Post
    As a dwarf with a level of Fighter, you are right to think you should have proficiency with Dwarven Axes. Did logging off/on equipping un-equipping help?
    Sad to report that it DID NOT work. =(

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    I dont TWF yet here at DDO, but I have a hunch...

    You are tryign to dual wield them I notice. The problem I am thinking of is that a dwarven axe is not a light weapon, and so would require some special feat to offhand it without taking an extra penalty (beyond the normal TWF penalty) to your attack bonus, much like nonproficiency... Do you still get the nonproficiency message if you try to just wield one in your main hand and then have nothing, or a shield, in your offhand?

    You could also try to main hand the dwarven axe, and offhand a handaxe, assuming you have the first TWF feat in the first place..

    Thats my guess, anyhow. If its not that, then you are definitely bugged. Congrats! =D

    EDIT and rusty can is correct, you do not need to take fighter at lvl one in order to gain the proficiencies. You could take fighter at any level for this purpose (or any other class for their proficiencies).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daggaz View Post
    I dont TWF yet here at DDO, but I have a hunch...

    You are tryign to dual wield them I notice. The problem I am thinking of is that a dwarven axe is not a light weapon, and so would require some special feat to offhand it without taking a penalty to your attack bonus, much like nonproficiency... Do you still get the nonproficiency message if you try to just wield one in your main hand and then have nothing, or a shield, in your offhand?

    no you don't get a message for dual wielding two heavy weapons it just deducts it of your +hit with out warning. But even if it did, i have the oversized weapon fighting feat(which i planned to loose at higher lvls when i get more hit).

    screen shot of owf feat:
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    awesome guess though! anymore suggestions?

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    Default missing Exotic feat

    Can you give us any more information about which other feats you have taken and when you took them? Have you been chatting with Fred there under the garden at all?

    Can you equip another weapon and compare your to-hit against a single dwarven axe to see if it really is giving you the -4 penalty?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daggaz View Post
    I dont TWF yet here at DDO, but I have a hunch...

    You are tryign to dual wield them I notice. The problem I am thinking of is that a dwarven axe is not a light weapon, and so would require some special feat to offhand it without taking an extra penalty (beyond the normal TWF penalty) to your attack bonus, much like nonproficiency... Do you still get the nonproficiency message if you try to just wield one in your main hand and then have nothing, or a shield, in your offhand?

    You could also try to main hand the dwarven axe, and offhand a handaxe, assuming you have the first TWF feat in the first place..

    Thats my guess, anyhow. If its not that, then you are definitely bugged. Congrats! =D

    EDIT and rusty can is correct, you do not need to take fighter at lvl one in order to gain the proficiencies. You could take fighter at any level for this purpose (or any other class for their proficiencies).
    You are thinking of Oversized Two Weapon Fighting, and no, lacking that feat or even TWF will not throw up a "You are not proficient" message. If it did, we might have less new people thinking they could actually hit things while dual wielding sans the Feat.

    Lacking the TWF feat chain merely affects to-hit (albeit a rather large penalty). It does not affect proficiency.

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    Yeah I just hopped on my battle cleric and tried it.. you are right, no warning. (stupid tho, those poor newbs will think they are awesome when they are not!)

    You are bugged. Quit completely out of the game, shut down the program, and try to log back on. If it doesnt go away, ticket a GM.

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    Well from what I've been reading he is trying to get access to using dwarven axes. Being a TWF has nothing to do with getting access to DWA's. Do you ahve the choice of taking the exotic weapons proficiency? If you can then you have to go into the sub menu of that feat and select DWA I believe. I play a dwarven fighter and from my feats I have the exotic weapon proficiency and in the sub menu I have DWA and no other weapon. So I'm thinking that for every exotic weapon you want to be proficient in you have to select the weapon when you take a feat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeToo View Post
    Can you give us any more information about which other feats you have taken and when you took them? Have you been chatting with Fred there under the garden at all?

    Can you equip another weapon and compare your to-hit against a single dwarven axe to see if it really is giving you the -4 penalty?
    None of this should matter. Hes a dwarf with a level of fighter, he should automatically get proficiency no matter what. And its not the kind of feat you can mess up with by talking to fred, as its racial/class granted.

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