Mysterious Bauble and Epic Spell Storing Ring

[Newtons_Apple]

I agree.

I have a bauble. I have some pots, and get donated some as I'm a cleric. I liek to keep them for emergency use.

But if the bauble takes 3 times as long to use, and pots give more, I'll probably never use the bauble anymore. Which means I'm going to be spending even more in game gold just to be able to keep up in longer raids (elite ToD, Elite VoD usually takes a pot or 2).

With the crippling of plat farmers, there may not be stacks of 20 pots on the ah in which to buy. Some of us are seeing signs of this already.

So where will players now have to buy their pots?

[R0cksteady]

because the time matters to get some sp back after buffing, right?

Except that's not always the time to use it. In fact, in a lot of raids it's not. In raids, only one of the clerics/FvS have to do the buffing, and most raids bring 2 healers anyway. Now if the FvS does the buffing, I'm saving my bauble for when I need it.

[R0cksteady]

With the crippling of plat farmers, there may not be stacks of 20 pots on the ah in which to buy. Some of us are seeing signs of this already.

So where will players now have to buy their pots?

Why would there be less on the auction? It's more likely for price to go down a bit. If the nerf stays as is, maybe it'll stay the same.

[Yaga_Nub]

I'm only going to address the healing portion of the OP but if lag is really reduced, you won't have to spam heal like you do now and will actually be able to manage your mana like you do in regular quests. That change, in and of itself, will reduce the need for either item.

[R0cksteady]

I'm only going to address the healing portion of the OP but if lag is really reduced, you won't have to spam heal like you do now and will actually be able to manage your mana like you do in regular quests. That change, in and of itself, will reduce the need for either item.

The only place where you really have to spam mass heal a lot because of lag is shroud, and any cleric that's built for healing wont run out of SP there. Although they might now because one rounders will be a lot tougher tog et.

[Newtons_Apple]

The only place where you really have to spam mass heal a lot because of lag is shroud, and any cleric that's built for healing wont run out of SP there. Although they might now because one rounders will be a lot tougher tog et.

ToD part 2? There's quite a bit of lag in there.

[R0cksteady]

ToD part 2? There's quite a bit of lag in there.

Yeah but it's an extremely short fight anyway. I think I've seen one death there that wasn't from the shadows, and I was fighting in it, not healing.

[Newtons_Apple]

The only place where you really have to spam mass heal a lot because of lag is shroud, and any cleric that's built for healing wont run out of SP there. Although they might now because one rounders will be a lot tougher tog et.

Epic Von 6. One of the longest fights in the game. Velah is a flame belching Lag monster.

[R0cksteady]

Epic Von 6. One of the longest fights in the game. Velah is a flame belching Lag monster.

You hardly need to spam mass heals there to keep people alive through the lag. It is kind of laggy (Although not as bad as shroud) but people don't go down as fast there, unless someone forgets to call out when fire is coming.

[Flixxer]

Hmmm, so as I understand it now cleric pre became a bit better vs fvs in healing perspective (because turn undead will be used as cures in raids and fvs could last longer due to higher sp count ). But now arises another problem because lower dps will increase time in fighting, so both fvs and cleric will have to manage it longer. Bauble helped me a lot, in most epic raids and just raids, will be nerfed! so it will give on average 150 sp less which equals 3 mass heals. From my experience i use on my fvs 1 pot per epic raid if it is a bit laggy or raid dps is lower than required (sometimes even nothing) and if it is laggy than 3 pots on average. So considering nerfed bauble i will have to drink extra pot! + longer time healing melees so i could suggest another 1 pot and basically it equals 3 pots per epic raid and ussually there are 2-3 healers so 6-9 pots already it becomes expensive to do epic raids for the items which you have yet to collect!!! Just ridiculous! at least leave bauble major so we have more fun! I don't want ddo to be a freaking wow where you grind 24/7 if you want to have good equipment and other stuff......

[R0cksteady]

Hmmm, so as I understand it now cleric pre became a bit better vs fvs in healing perspective

Actually, I tested it out. it doesn't make a cleric a better healer than a FvS in my opinion. Probably balances it out well, depending on the builds. But it is very nice.

I gotta say though, I agree with the rest of your post. It IS going to make things even less fun for healing specced clerics and FvS.

[Eladiun]

Don't like the Bauble change at all... Spell storing ring not as bothered. I hate that its a stealth change.

[Zzevel]

Next thing you know all wands will be turbine store only, then bolts and arrows, then healing pots then... etc ... REALLY your ONLY nerfing the in game clickies so you can get RL profit by forcing us to farm pots (what kind of deadbeat really has this kinda time on their hand, most of us want to PLAY the game and don't have time to farm one quest 3 times to get 1 pot...) or buy them from you for RL cash.

Put them in the IN GAME vendors like other pots then we won't call you out for being the money hungry corporation this nerf is portraying Turbine as.

[Stanley_Nicholas]

Interesting how so many people without an epic SS ring are in favor of nerfing it, so long as their precious baubles go untouched. The same principle applies to both items: the only reason to nerf is to try to drive up the sale of store pots.

The only thing the ring does is remove the need to use pots in most circumstances, unless things go really bad. Well I have it on my fvs healer, and guess what Turbine? It hasn't hurt your pot sales at all. I have never bought pots from the AH, let alone the Turbine store. If it ever comes down to a choice between buying pots or a party wipe, I will choose party wipe every time. Where's the fun in trying without the possibility of failure?

Please rethink the decision on this nerf. I realize there will be few people arguing against it, but that's because the thing is so **** hard to get that there are probably only a couple people on each server who even have one. It didn't make me godly when I got it or overpowered at all, really. It just lessened my resource consumption a bit and let me cast some extra spells between my heals, like implosion and blade barrier. It's nice not having to be a total healbot all the time. Please consider the argument from someone who actually has experience with it.

[Tarrant]

The change to the Mysterious Bauble was unintended, and we're looking into a fix for it. We should have more information on it later.

[R0cksteady]

The change to the Mysterious Bauble was unintended, and we're looking into a fix for it. We should have more information on it later.

YES

awesome.

[Yaga_Nub]

The change to the Mysterious Bauble was unintended, and we're looking into a fix for it. We should have more information on it later.

BOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! Change it! If for no other reason than to make the whiners leave! For the love of all that is holy, please change it.

[Eladiun]

Interesting how so many people without an epic SS ring are in favor of nerfing it, so long as their precious baubles go untouched. The same principle applies to both items: the only reason to nerf is to try to drive up the sale of store pots.

[Eladiun]

The change to the Mysterious Bauble was unintended, and we're looking into a fix for it. We should have more information on it later.

Thank you for responding and addressing this.

[smatt]

The change to the Mysterious Bauble was unintended, and we're looking into a fix for it. We should have more information on it later.

I shall buy you a beer sir!