Quote Originally Posted by Twerpp View Post
Dont get me wrong HP is useful, 190 is a bit too low for even a finesse melee rogue. 250 is way too low for a tank who should be getting base D10 per level. That is not low HP thats straight up gimp HP, pathetic. No excuse for that when +6 con items and GFL are so cheap... everyone gets racial toughness (and most builds should take at least one toughness), and you can get 45 off shroud items.
But you are gimping your toon with 18-20 starting con, multiple toughness feats, and any level raises whatsoever into con.
I think I totally agree with you.

I'm just sick of the casters that run around with 150-190 hp... and they claim something stupid like, "well, just don't get hit."

The only way they survive is to never put themselves in harms way, to never pull aggro, and basically to never help the party apart from throwing out a web from time to time.

I want characters in my party that will jump in and save us all from an impending wipe. A sorc who can throw a massive fireball down and take aggro of 8 different things if the melees are getting beaten up.

Sorcs with 150 hp simply can't do those things... They freak out everytime there's a reverse gravity in the Reaver.