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    Default Auto-Roll system (For items)

    Preamble: Yeah, I know it's fluff. Yeah, I know, "The Devs are WAAAAAAAY to busy to worry about that!" I just wanted to make the powers-that-be aware of a feature that "I" would like to see in the game at some future point.

    That being said, I would like to see a new catagory in the box where You assign loot to other players.

    It would be called "Put Item up for roll" and here's how it would work....

    1. Player decides to put item "x" up for roll and clicks on appropriate choice in menu.

    2. A small box appears with die # to be rolled (default would be d100).

    3. Other players would have a set amount of time to get in (say, 30 secs.)

    4. Players get in on roll by clicking on item in chest and clicking "OK" in pop-up box asking "Roll for this item?" (You could also cancel)

    5. At the end of the given time frame, rolls are made (they would be displayed in party/general chat) and the item is assigned to the winner.

    Aside from the player announcing that the item is up for roll, it would be nice if the border color changed to some other color when it is put up for roll, and a count-down timer on the item would be even nicer.

    Now, I realize that this will most likely never be implemented, and that Turbine has limited resources, and They have many other things to worry about besides a fluff idea like this. I just thought that it was a good idea and that I should throw it out into the ether and see if it sticks to anything.

    The main advantage I see to this system is that multiple items could be put up for roll by multiple people all at the same time and there would be less confusion about who is rolling for what.

    Anyway, just My 2cp.............Discuss.
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    Maybe its just early, but I don't understand why DDO would be better with such a system in place, considering we already have /roll dXX available, not to mention party chat to tell others it is time for rolling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lithic View Post
    Maybe its just early, but I don't understand why DDO would be better with such a system in place, considering we already have /roll dXX available, not to mention party chat to tell others it is time for rolling.
    Personally, I don't trust the current /roll system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lithic View Post
    Maybe its just early, but I don't understand why DDO would be better with such a system in place, considering we already have /roll dXX available, not to mention party chat to tell others it is time for rolling.

    Morning Lithic.

    It's just fluff. I guess that the 9-10 keystrokes are just to much for some? WoW has it so we need it too? It would not make DDO better nor worse. It would make it like other games.

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    I believe LOTRO has a roll system - in fact, a few systems. How much of LOTRO's code DDO could borrow may be a sticky point - DDO's engine may be too different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schroebj13 View Post
    The system works fine. If you don't trust it, then I think it is a people problem, not a programing issue

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    Have you ever tested it? Ie, how easy is it to cheat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talcyndl View Post
    Personally, I don't trust the current /roll system.

    The system works fine. If you don't trust it, then I think it is a people problem, not a programing issue

    just my 2cp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talcyndl View Post
    Have you ever tested it? Ie, how easy is it to cheat?
    Have you? If there were a way to cheat the dice rolling it would be so widespread by now it would have been fixed dont you think.

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    I like your suggestion, OP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Talcyndl View Post
    Have you ever tested it? Ie, how easy is it to cheat?
    just make sure the roll shows up in party chat and general chat no way to cheat that way
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    Oh and by the way (referring to your sig), we aren't nerfing the Torc.

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    Didn't the auto roll already happen as you opened the chest?


    Garbage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lifespawn View Post
    just make sure the roll shows up in party chat and general chat no way to cheat that way
    Good suggestion.

    How many folks check general chat? Because if no one in a group does, it is VERY EASY to fake the roll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talcyndl View Post
    Good suggestion.

    How many folks check general chat? Because if no one in a group does, it is VERY EASY to fake the roll.
    Not if people are actually paying attention. The message for you talking in party is quite different from the message when you roll.

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    If we were looting corpses (and lots of them) like they do in LotRo I'd say sure, but we aren't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Cataclysm View Post
    Not if people are actually paying attention. The message for you talking in party is quite different from the message when you roll.
    I've not seen any difference - when looking just in party chat. A guildy caught someone cheating but only did so because the cheater forgot to type a period at the end of the line. :shrug:

    Hopefully, people will pay attention and no one will try it for fear of getting caught, but...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Talcyndl View Post
    Personally, I don't trust the current /roll system.
    Then why would you trust another? Is it not the system, but people's ability to pay attention that you don't trust?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Cataclysm View Post
    Not if people are actually paying attention.
    Any time you base the stability of a system working on people paying attention (or for that matter, people in general)... you either have something that a computer cannot do better than a human, or it's just not that important to maintain accuracy or integrity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunga View Post
    Didn't the auto roll already happen as you opened the chest?


    Garbage.
    Wrong. This is about when You don't want something and want to let others roll for it.

    As far as "garbage" goes, Meh, Your opinion.........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nott View Post
    Then why would you trust another? Is it not the system, but people's ability to pay attention that you don't trust?

    How about: I don't like the current system because it is easy to cheat if people aren't paying attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talcyndl View Post
    How about: I don't like the current system because it is easy to cheat if people aren't paying attention.
    pay attention?
    Quote Originally Posted by MadFloyd View Post
    Fernando has yet to even suggest a nerf of anything.
    Oh and by the way (referring to your sig), we aren't nerfing the Torc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talcyndl View Post
    How about: I don't like the current system because it is easy to cheat if people aren't paying attention.
    I usually haven't payed it much mind, assuming that most people have been relatively honest. It has occured to me that people could cheat that way, but I've never been motivated enough to closely observe the rolls. I guess I always figured that I'll generally get what I want at least by one of the 20th's anyways so no need to fuss.

    Now that you mention it though, I kinda like it the way it is as it gives people the opportunity to find the dishonest people. If I ever catch anyone doing that sort of thing, I would definately notify all my guildies and people I regulariliy group with, warning them away from said person. It's not so much that I care that they obtained loot dishonestly, it's more that I just dont like dishonest people in general.

    I'll be on the look out over the next little while... let the witch hunt begin!
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