Congrats on the Abbot win

[Justin1341]

To quote their forums:


I'm not giving props to exploiters. Sorry guys, but if you have to exploit just to win, it isn't a win.

Tell me when you beat it without exploits.

Everyone has to exploit it to win so don't act all high and mighty. It isn't beatable without. And your guildies were there too Tanka.

[Grinndal]

Congratz guys.

And as to fixing the quest.
/signed

[Baltire]

Everyone has to exploit it to win so don't act all high and mighty. It isn't beatable without. And your guildies were there too Tanka.

There were ZERO NSR members in that raid, we are all of the mind that if it needs to be done in a way that isnt meant to be done ( I wont mention any of the ways I have heard from people that HAVE cheesed it) then we wont do it at all.

As far as Im concerned, on this topic, anyone who refuses to do something that is know to be "wrong" has plenty of reason to act high and mighty.

If it isnt beatable without bending or breaking rules, then it shouldnt be done, and by stating that "We Did It" just shows that you have broken rules.

[Justin1341]

There were ZERO NSR members in that raid, we are all of the mind that if it needs to be done in a way that isnt meant to be done ( I wont mention any of the ways I have heard from people that HAVE cheesed it) then we wont do it at all.

As far as Im concerned, on this topic, anyone who refuses to do something that is know to be "wrong" has plenty of reason to act high and mighty.

If it isnt beatable without bending or breaking rules, then it shouldnt be done, and by stating that "We Did It" just shows that you have broken rules.

um Tanka is in Caffeine but thanks... And your guildies have come along with us PLENTY o perfect NSR....

[Tanka]

Everyone has to exploit it to win so don't act all high and mighty. It isn't beatable without. And your guildies were there too Tanka.

As Towrn said, no NSR were there.

Oh, wait, you're a bit behind the news, aren't you?

I'll be high and mighty because if you can't beat it as the developers have intended, you haven't truly beaten it.

Get back to me when you have.

[alchilito]

Everyone has to exploit it to win so don't act all high and mighty. It isn't beatable without. And your guildies were there too Tanka.

ouch. pwned.

[Justin1341]

As Towrn said, no NSR were there.

Oh, wait, you're a bit behind the news, aren't you?

I'll be high and mighty because if you can't beat it as the developers have intended, you haven't truly beaten it.

Get back to me when you have.

Have you? Has ANYONE?!?! No and No. And any tactics that are used aren't a I win button. It is still a hard quest and a challenge. I guess you wouldn't know since you can't do it.

[Tanka]

Have you? Has ANYONE?!?! No and No. And any tactics that are used aren't a I win button. It is still a hard quest and a challenge. I guess you wouldn't know since you can't do it.

Congrats, you used an exploit to bypass one part of the raid, therefore not completing as the developers intended.

Whether or not anyone has is irrelevant. You exploited. You cheated. You broke the rules of the game, both in letter and in spirit.

Beating a broken quest through exploits is not worthy of merit.

[Kanamycin]

if its so cheesy why did eladrin describe it as clever ?

[Baltire]

Sorry you changed guilds... And no NSR were there this run. But I can think of at least 5 NSR that have come along and used these tactics and 1 that studied them in depth and learned so that he could get NSR to do guild runs using them :O

Is that so????

Give me their names in a PM so I can have a word with them.

Im on most all the time and NEVER see anyone in that quest.

NSR hasnt run an abbot as a guild in about 6 months back when we were trying to LEARN puzzles, not get around them with cheesy tactics.

So, unless you have proof to back up your allegations, I would say, take the high road (for once) and shut your mouth. We obviously have proof that you have exlpoited this raid.

Keep talking if youd like, I have said all I need to say.

[Tanka]

Sergod, keep on giving the Cube some tasty food.

Shine on, you crazy diamond.

[Lifespawn]

my guild and soulless did the asteroid with the summon undead and flesh to stone when you could cast them more than once.

Not sure if that was considered cheese but no other way to beat it presently than with the undescribed tactics.

[Mical]

it is physically impossible to do it without exploiting, not to be a giant cheater but it is phyiscally impossible, in the asteroids room, there are so many boulders and even the minutest bit of lag will push you off.

so if it was lag free i would then try to do it for real, as inteded, but it wasn't inteed to be laggy

so :P

'i fart in your general direction'

[Mockduck]

Maybe I should have just congratulated Xilo and Mical in a PM, but hey - I figured what the heck? Just a reminder that I wasn't there and had nothing to do with this.

As far as I'm concerned, it still takes a good party to beat the raid, even if an exploit is used in the asteroid room. Now, my personal stance is that I'm not running the raid any more until it's fixed because I concluded that I couldn't legit win, but it still takes skill to beat the other two puzzles, survive the inferno and deal with everything else in the raid, particularly on elite. So, I figured congrats was in order.

[Mical]

yea back in october we tried to beat the abott, on normail, with no exploits

IT IS PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE DUE TO LAG

and buginess of puzzles, but other than that, if the puzzles were possible then i would try but it is physically not beatable..

[Tanka]

So rather than take the high road you chose to exploit?

Right. My hat is off to you, sir.

[Kanamycin]

you tanka are better than everyone and your betterness has won you the internet , good job

[Mical]

ok no offensive but you physically dont get it

IF IF IF it were possible to do it, without exploiting, people would be doing it that way, to have actual honor
but since theres the tiniest bit of lag in the asteroid room,

it
is
not
possible

believe me i would like to do it without exploits, it just cannot be done.. no matter what top notch computer you have, the latency between your party is to much, theres the slightest bit of lag

[Euphoria]

congrats on completing the abbot...maybe one day i will attempt it

[Tanka]

If it cannot be done without exploits:

Don't
Do
It

Simple, really.