What would you do?

[jozzcooper2]

I'm curious about how I should have handled events that transpired during a Tangleroot quest over the weekend. We started about 12am, and things were relatively normal for the first hour as we neared completion of part 6. At this point, the wizard started to throw 'grease' under us as a sort of joke...not unusual really, except for the timing..during the quest.
At any rate, we finished part 6, and then her significant other, playing the main fighter, left to get a clickable item with 'grease' on it. From then on, it was a war, with people falling all over...the fighter wasn't bothered when he fell into the spiders at the beginning and was eaten. Long story short, by the time we got to the second stage of part seven, things had devolved to a joke, the wizard using all of her spell points to lay down the patch of grease for the 80th time.
My rogue has a great balance, but this doesn't help in trying to single-handedly fend off the gangs of monsters that descended on us; with a warrior that couldn't stay standing, and a wizard that had no spell points, you can see where this is going...i died.
My response was to let them goof around and come back in to carry my stone to the shrine..where I just let it sit the rest of the way. I went away and did things on my other comp, refreshing often enough to stay in the dungeon. They finally finished a little after 3am, with 2 hours spent on 'grease' gags. I have to confess I didn't mind hearing the jokers' constant stream of death in the elite traps I would have been there to disable...
My question is this...should I have dropped the quest like one player did...chewed them out and dropped quest...chewed them out and tried to complete it...or just let them finish and pick up the xp?
*guild reference removed on advice from a knowledgeable poster*

[moonprophet]

This is one of about 2 dozen comments I have heard about like this regarding that server. Even respected names like Ro&*hea( have posted about taking part in that kind of behavior on that server. My reccomendation, if you want to get down to serious business, and still deal with friendly folks, come over to Ghallanda. We have fun, but don't pull those kind of stunts. Especially not in a pug.

[smith17135]

drop group and move on.

[Thailand_Dan]

Ran into a smaller, but similiar incident yesterday. Running Tempest Spine and a guy threw down grease inside the cave, just after the initial run, while buffing and waiting for the slowpokes to get inside. No big. A little further on, he hits it again at the shrine of Fire and Ice. OK, some people love grease. I'll admit I always carry a 3 charge grease bracer to have fun with when waiting for others. I rarely use it, and usually only among guildies, but I do carry it.

After the Marut, we start to loot the chest, and the guy hits grease right on the chest. At that point, someone said over voice chat, "alright, enough with the grease", but not in a rude manner. Someone agreed, over voice chat, and another member typed agreement. The guy didn't hit it again.

As to what should be done in your situation, I guess it depends on the person. Your solution sounded reasonable. However, if I actually wanted to do something else, I would have dropped group and asked friends to help out, or even put up an LFM asking for help to complete.

Not much you can do really, but refuse to help. When I first started, I rolled a WF fighter. Occasionally I joined group with nothing but caster and had some clerics refuse to heal me, so I'd type /sleep and stopped helping. But, I digress.

[Heffty_Smurf]

i agree with the guy posting on the wrong server because evidently people from other servers have that much time. if i were you i would move all ur toons to gallahand or wherever the peeps wound up to tight play. otherwise chill out and if u need to sit in the shrine do so but make ur own decisions u dont need to come to the forums for handholding.

[Jondallar]

u dont need to come to the forums for handholding.

I thought this was eharmony... I am looking for hand holding

[Teech]

Question: Did you, or anyone else in the group actually try to tell them that "It's late and I'd really like to get this over with pls."?

You didn't mention it in your OP so I don't know. I don't think its should be taken for granted either that they should understand this, as they might be from a different part of the world where it was just the start of peak hour and they thought that everyone would have lots of time.

Anyway, that would be what I would have tried to do first.

[FluffyCalico]

Well once you get a couple more levels have the cleric put FoM on everyone and greese your hearts content out. It actually is a wonderful CC spell as long as people have FoM.
PS> Your cleric should have it memed in TS as best buff there is against the end boss there. Sliding off the cliff for the loss.

[Kistilan]

I didn't mind hearing the jokers' constant stream of death in the elite traps I would have been there to disable...
My question is this...should I have dropped the quest like one player did...chewed them out and dropped quest...chewed them out and tried to complete it...or just let them finish and pick up the xp?
(I won't say what guild they belong to, but it rhymes with ************, and I may have a hard time running with members of that guild in the future...sorry to the other good members, but that's where it put me).

Hey Jozz-

I know how you feel, but not everyone plays that way, even on Argonnessen. Yes, the highly-visible forum names from Argonnessen tend to float down the river of "shenanigans," but there are groups out there that don't do that. I typically run with those groups. I think I have 2 grease clickies and I only use it when we're waiting and there's no way anyone can die. It's more like a good gag while in a lull, but not on a ledge or trap or in a swarm (unless I can get the mobs and let them slip and slide well ahead of the party).

Anyway, yeah, other servers tend to not roll this way. It's a tradition that was started eons ago, but you seriously don't HAVE to swop servers in order to not find this. I've pugged successfully for the last 2.5 (nearly 3 now) years on Argonnessen (and Orion prior to) and rarely have been the haphazard group of incessant greasing (infact, never). You need to just learn a little more about which guilds have a higher-probability of shenanigans and avoid. Also, the guild you mentioned has some rediculously strong players that don't do that, so it was likely a goofy combo you met from said guild. I've run with plenty and never had a greasing problem from their guild.

So take it for what it is. Yes, you could move to another server, but you did right not being an absolute ace to them. If someone had already badgered them out and it didn't affect their behaviour, I doubt your badgering would have either. If ya can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all. I think (since you wanted the end-quest completion) taking the backpack ride in soulstone format and letting them play it out while you did other activities was fine. They obviously weren't counting on you and they also contributed to why you were dead all the time anyway. No harm, no foul. Take names and remember voices -- avoid if the quest is important or you don't have the time for shenanigans.

If you didn't have 2 hours to spare for the last part of Tangleroot, by all means you could have expressed that and said you had to leave. No one would be upset with you since they were obviously doing the run slow and haphazardly. If they did get upset, they're the ones that have to sleep at night and develop that ulcer. ^_*

Lastly, the forums don't really need Who Is Done That You There *point finger* threads. It's a good thing no one has thrown a fit yet, but the rhyming pseudonym you've utilized to describe the guild can actually get you infractions or warnings. I advise ya ****** **** bleep the name out so you don't succumb to this folly. Threads that point names or insinuate parties generally become flame fests of undesirable performance. Your question is valid on what you should do, and setting up the scenario was great -- just avoid references that can be used to identify or make someone think you might be trying to "hint" at them or their friends or guilds or whatever sentimental value said reference is to them.

That's all I got. It was a lot. I've gotta hit the books now man -- big test in the morning for Aerospace Physiology at 7 am. I hope to run with you later -- sounds like you're into business, and business is good.

[Rowanheal]

*wave*

Does no one have a sense of humor anymore? Good lord...

We have so little to do in game these days... many of us find it...BORING!

Middle of the night on a Saturday... well I was in bed, so it wasn't me... but it could have been...

As previously stated, I tend to have fun these days. I try not to tick off people in pugs though.

You must have had some friends of mine in the group

Look, if you aren't having fun tell someone...most of us have run tangleroot to death... it was early morning... shennigans ensued...

Honestly people... *sprinkles the thread with pink hearts and flowers*

See ya in Stormreach,

-R

[Hvymetal]

I try not to use it in PUGs, but my Wizard does have Grease memmed, usually tied in with extend

Mention something to them, drop group, whatever, don't get so wound up it is a game & just be glad I wasn't there & lava wasn't around, or a stack of create undead scrolls

[Aesop]

Drop group and see if my archer is on... it'll take a while on elite but if you can get the traps I can kill anything in there

.... that and I'd like to complete it again so I can hopefullly get the crimson gemstone for eher... her SP is a little low

Aesop

[Elsbet]

I like a good greasing as much as the next person, but I save it for guildies and good friends (mostly because they deserve it). I wouldn't do it to PuGs and I sure wouldn't do it at 2 a.m. (mainly because I would have fallen asleep at the PC five minutes into any quest that started at midnight).

I would have asked once if they could stop long enought to finish up then if they didn't, I'd have dropped group.

[Yaga_Nub]

*wave*

Does no one have a sense of humor anymore? Good lord...

We have so little to do in game these days... many of us find it...BORING!

Middle of the night on a Saturday... well I was in bed, so it wasn't me... but it could have been...

As previously stated, I tend to have fun these days. I try not to tick off people in pugs though.

You must have had some friends of mine in the group

Look, if you aren't having fun tell someone...most of us have run tangleroot to death... it was early morning... shennigans ensued...

Honestly people... *sprinkles the thread with pink hearts and flowers*

See ya in Stormreach,

-R

I gotta disagree with you Rowan. There's having a sense of humor and then there's just being a selfish ass. Greasing a couple of times in a PUG is okay. Doing it more than a couple is just asking for trouble. If you want to do stuff like that, drop the group and go in with whoever else wants to do it and have fun. Don't hold up other people with your desire for personal fun compared to group fun.

[Rowanheal]

I gotta disagree with you Rowan. There's having a sense of humor and then there's just being a selfish ass. Greasing a couple of times in a PUG is okay. Doing it more than a couple is just asking for trouble. If you want to do stuff like that, drop the group and go in with whoever else wants to do it and have fun. Don't hold up other people with your desire for personal fun compared to group fun.

Yaga sweetie, I said I try NOT to tick off pugs... and we all know how often I pug... like never...

I agree 2 hours of grease fun would be like OMG...

People get silly sometimes...

My point is either say something or don't but don't come over here being all WOW Argo sucks...

Because it doesn't. There are wonderful people here who play all kinds of ways.

And this is why Rowan does not pug anymore... grumpy people...

*hands Yaga some coffee*

See ya in Stormreach,

-R

[Hvymetal]

I gotta disagree with you Rowan. There's having a sense of humor and then there's just being a selfish ass. Greasing a couple of times in a PUG is okay. Doing it more than a couple is just asking for trouble. If you want to do stuff like that, drop the group and go in with whoever else wants to do it and have fun. Don't hold up other people with your desire for personal fun compared to group fun.

Yaga has a point, there is a point when there is too much grease, and really knowing when and where to do it has a great effect.

[Aspenor]

This is one of about 2 dozen comments I have heard about like this regarding that server. Even respected names like Ro&*hea( have posted about taking part in that kind of behavior on that server. My reccomendation, if you want to get down to serious business, and still deal with friendly folks, come over to Ghallanda. We have fun, but don't pull those kind of stunts. Especially not in a pug.

Wow, you take this game too seriously.

To the OP, you should have said SOMETHING. People can't respond to your opinion unless you give it to them.

[TommyBoy]

Sounds like Argo has turned into a frat house

what do you mean has? I think is is the correct word

[Aspenor]

what do you mean has? I think is is the correct word

Well, I would rather play games in a frat house than a retirement home .....
<- I played on Ghallanda

[xrenox]

i agree with the guy posting on the wrong server because evidently people from other servers have that much time. if i were you i would move all ur toons to gallahand or wherever the peeps wound up to tight play. otherwise chill out and if u need to sit in the shrine do so but make ur own decisions u dont need to come to the forums for handholding.

This from the guy who shouted profanity in a raid group, then spent half a hour in tells crying because he was not given the Chattering Ring in the Titan Raid. Then saying he would never group with a member of that person's guild nor anyone in his guild would be grouping with that guild ever agian. Talk about wound up tight.