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    Default Abysmal high reflex saves of archers

    Now that stats are cut, it seems that archers have to high reflexes which make them save for no damage.

    Which makes me wonder what dc I should aim for now, and more important how to get there.

    Also wondering if its just me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LightBear View Post
    Now that stats are cut, it seems that archers have to high reflexes which make them save for no damage.

    Which makes me wonder what dc I should aim for now, and more important how to get there.

    Also wondering if its just me...
    Do you have anything in your repertoire that targets will or fort saves?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tlorrd View Post
    Do you have anything in your repertoire that targets will or fort saves?
    Repertoire... ? I'm slinging vials this time around, though bards might have the same problem.

    But to answer your question, only one ranged spell that I use that is usually at the end of my spell cycle (Molotov Cocktail).
    The other one (gold breath) makes me go stand next to them.

    Thx for pointing it out that I should cast the appropriate spells.

    Still would like to know what DC we should aim for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LightBear View Post
    Repertoire... ? I'm slinging vials this time around, though bards might have the same problem.

    But to answer your question, only one ranged spell that I use that is usually at the end of my spell cycle (Molotov Cocktail).
    The other one (gold breath) makes me go stand next to them.

    Thx for pointing it out that I should cast the appropriate spells.

    Still would like to know what DC we should aim for now.
    6 less than you used to in ER, 16 less in LR

    You have several CC options you could slot for non-reflex saves. CCed mobs can't Evade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LightBear View Post
    Abysmal high reflex saves of archers
    Apologies for being completely off topic regarding the actual subject, but this still seems to be on topic on any flavour of D&D board: Please do not write "abysmal high" as it may give people the impression that the Abyss is a good place.

    (See https://www.etymonline.com/word/abysmal and https://www.etymonline.com/word/abyss for more information, also possibly https://dungeonsdragons.fandom.com/wiki/Abyss and https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4955642/.)

    Tols.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tols View Post
    Apologies for being completely off topic regarding the actual subject, but this still seems to be on topic on any flavour of D&D board: Please do not write "abysmal high" as it may give people the impression that the Abyss is a good place.

    (See https://www.etymonline.com/word/abysmal and https://www.etymonline.com/word/abyss for more information, also possibly https://dungeonsdragons.fandom.com/wiki/Abyss and https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4955642/.)

    Tols.
    Ahum, I am looking for a specific number and was expressing my feeling of dread caused by my failings to abolish vile skeleton archers.
    The word "abysmal" was specifically chosen to both express "unfathomable", the above mentioned jitters and no matter how many flasks I swing they all resulting in a null thus as if I am trowing them into a bottomless pit.
    Normally I'd charge a gold for showing you the bend in the river, but I'll let you skip this one for free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LightBear View Post
    Normally I'd charge a gold for showing you the bend in the river, but I'll let you skip this one for free.
    In that case, I'll hand you a spare "-ly" for free, too.

    Tols.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tols View Post
    In that case, I'll hand you a spare "-ly" for free, too.

    Tols.
    My location used to say I am dwelling in limbo, it really isn't as bad of a place as some describe it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LightBear View Post
    My location used to say I am dwelling in limbo, it really isn't as bad of a place as some describe it is.
    If I know anything about limbo, there'll be good music, food, drinks & scantily clad people, possibly a beach
    I used to be with it, but then they changed what it was, now what's it is weird and scary to me.

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    The weird thing is that they have evasion and high reflex when 90% of their life is standing still.
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