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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindos View Post
    Plants need slashing? I don't remember. Volley does bludgeon, not slashing, unless I'm missing something?
    Yeah my goof. Fixed it.

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    I am not sure what you mean by "starve Assassin", talking about a rogue split, rather than the pure 20 ranger write up I was responding about?
    Doesn't make any sense to debate the U49 build any longer with U50 to be released imminently.

    Regardless of multiclass or pure, I can't imagine where two extra points in Vistani for neg level immunity would be spent better elsewhere.
    In what scenarios do you need it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tlorrd View Post
    While not an item ... AA imbue will give slashing.
    Yes, we know. We were talking strictly about items.
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    The release notes themselves are essentially the same as was seen on Lamannia most recently.
    This^, in so many words, is how you say time and feedback on Lamannia are wasted.

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    I see you made some new variations of your build! Have you considered Bard2 split? For dblshot boost? At present I can get to 216% for x4 multihits with a racial test build. Im earning some racial AP to try 12rog 6rng 2brd with 90AP, that should after stat squish only give me 202% so barely worth it, but a racial completionist could have 208% and I saw in U51 pre1 that LD had 6% which Im leaning for for off tree. It may not be worth it yet, but a few updates and better gear and maybe a lvl cap increase down the line?

    edit: and thats not counting Killer stacks so bit higher for trash clearing to boss
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    Quote Originally Posted by IlmerSilverhilt View Post
    I see you made some new variations of your build! Have you considered Bard2 split? For dblshot boost?
    Take a closer look at the FAQ in the U50 preview guide. There's a breakdown of how much 1% doubleshot increases damage by. Compared to the new class split, the Doubleshot Boost provides less damage than other options. You won't use Doubleshot Boost until Haste Boost is exhausted. And you're not going to do that in a quest -- maybe when pushing skulls in a raid. Even then, the Warlock split is superior because of the additive damage increase provided to other raid members.

    edit: and thats not counting Killer stacks so bit higher for trash clearing to boss
    Killer isn't part of the build. Trash dies too fast to optimize a build around it.
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    Yes I saw that section, very nice! But dblshot has a higher value then ranged power, which so far has been my focus. And it feels good to see guaranteed x3 multihits with the chance of x4. My ranged power will take a hit due to sentient revamp, but it feels, and I go by feels here It feels like its a dmg increase when you are around the 200% mark.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IlmerSilverhilt View Post
    ... but it feels, and I go by feels here ....
    Carpone is a good guy so I'll save him 15 seconds to reply. His build is based entirely on math. Purely objective and can be fully backed up. Feel?? Not so much...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PedXing20 View Post
    Carpone is a good guy
    Questionable

    However, you've summed up his likely response well: cognitive math appraisals > feels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IlmerSilverhilt View Post
    Yes I saw that section, very nice! But dblshot has a higher value then ranged power, which so far has been my focus. And it feels good to see guaranteed x3 multihits with the chance of x4. My ranged power will take a hit due to sentient revamp, but it feels, and I go by feels here It feels like its a dmg increase when you are around the 200% mark.
    You would probably prefer playing throwing dagger then. The 11 Rogue/6 Ranger/3 Bard has been around for two years, has ~350 doubleshot and can accomodate the Doubleshot Boost. The bow gear set should be optimal for it, using Wide Open Sky.
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    Default Horizan Walker

    So what enhancement split do you recommend with horizon walker released?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carpone View Post
    Killer isn't part of the build. Trash dies too fast to optimize a build around it.
    Killer is killer for solo builds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magdragons View Post
    So what enhancement split do you recommend with horizon walker released?
    As soon as Horizon Walker favor unlock works, I'll post the info.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tlorrd View Post
    Killer is killer for solo builds.
    It's not. Two-second Deflect Arrows + Run Speed matters more than a net +15% doubleshot, which only results in a 1% damage increase. A solo build+gear is in the U50 guide.
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    With the release of the U50 bow guide, this thread will no longer be updated by me.
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    Just an addendum, epic collapsable shortbow does slashing! https://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Epic_Collapsible_Shortbow

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    which build gives the best absolute best Single Target Damage? Dont care about aoe, or CC , best single target for like Bosses.. Is there one tree for a ranger that focuses on single target , pure class , multi class?
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    Default Cool Build!

    Love the build, but was hoping you could do an update on how I should do the epic destiny's with the new update that came out today.

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    Default Carpone...question

    So Carpone, not going to question your numbers (I can't) but I would like your opinion as on Race choice as I feel Aasimer is more my style of play. I know wood elf is max build but I duo with a caster (Sorc/Warlock) for R6+. I have been playing a favorsoul but I am maxing the move to ranged (just finished all the pastlives to maximize it).

    My question is simple....I like that aasimer is offensive/defensive (but would have to pick one or the other). In Reaper content I like the healing amp/healing hands/Toggle for PRR/MRR/increase HP %. But the other line for aasimer gives +3 tohit +3 Damage to Evil Creatures and Determination +10 to range power.

    Do you see the lose of +4 damage/tohit lose from wood elf to be drastically noticeable damage lose compared to 10 range power +3 hit/damage to evil. I believe like 70% of the game is considered Evil so it's possible in some cases with Evil and Range power it could be more damage then the wood elf? The wood elf is 100% effective at all times so there is no question there but your thoughts on the tradeoff?

    Is there other sources of 10 determination range power that are easier to get that would negate everything I just said?

    Look forward to those who are better at range then me. Just know that the Horizon tree has made being a ranged character much more bearable with the drastic increase in survivability.

    Thanks

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    It looks like the Google Doc is gone. Does anyone have a copy of the writeup? I had bookmarked it to refer back to as necessary (just got Horizon Walker tree so...).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twilight23 View Post
    It looks like the Google Doc is gone. Does anyone have a copy of the writeup? I had bookmarked it to refer back to as necessary (just got Horizon Walker tree so...).
    basically this build is abandoned - he now has a 53 out i think

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    This is a dead thread. Look for something current, like the U53 Ranged Showdown thread that includes several bow builds.
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