Dear Devs, concerning storage

[Wizza]

Playing tetris with the Inventory is one of the worst things of this game.

[walkin_dude]

I know this question is only tangentially related to the topic, but do you get a new set of iconic gear every time you TR into an iconic? If so, that means I don't have to worry about ever keeping any of that, right?

[Robai]

Finally this thread again!
Thanks!
(I have to spread out reputation before I can give you +1 again)

Yes, we need BtC bank space and it's urgent! (as it was 10 updates ago)

If the old Kundarak bank system is too hard to upgrade then Devs should create a new system (additionally), in which you could store BtC items.
New bank system should be seachable by name, ordered by ML/slot type/binding/raid/etc. (example: list all goggles that are in lvl range 10 - 15, and are BtA, order by ML)
Also this:

Yes to search.
Yes to a filter on/sort by ML.
Yes to the red border showing the item is a higher ML than you currently are actually working on the TR cache and your inventory.
Yes to not only showing the red border when the item is a higher ML, but display the name of the item in red so it's even more obvious at a glance of your list of items.

I'll quote some old good posts:

... for a completionist character, or at least one that is doing a lot of past lives, those slots might not be adequate to store all the gear that you want to have for those lives. having half a dozen GS weapons, 3 GS accessories, bauble, some Fens stuff (helm is nice to have), a minos, a nightforge gorget, titan raid loot (boots, belt, gloves, ring), VoN raid loot, reaver's fate loot, DQ raid loot, VoD raid loot, HoX raid loot, literally 20+ Tower of despair rings that might or might not come in handy (ravager, kyosho's, sanura's, rahkir's, encrusted, etc) and some of them doubles with different upgrades so you can slot things, AND some of the belts/necklaces for the better sets (rahkir's/shintoa/knosts), alchemical weapons from lord of the blades, certain runearms. CITW/epic/FR stuff if you want to play around at cap a bit. Crafted items with guild slots so you can 'use' the extra sp/hp/fort/whatever.

It all adds up, and it's all bound to character, and some of us (me included), are packrats, I hate it when raid loot gets left behind and want to hoard it, and a lot of people have that same 'issue', but it's juggling inventory and bank space as it stands, which sorta puts me off and causes me to avoid getting into that conflict with myself. It's just pixels and bytes, but still, it feels like a shame to let it go to waste/lost/forgotten/destroyed/left behind.

... this is what I want, turbine. 1 character. I never want to log into another toon, even though i've bought all these slots.
Storage for all my BtC items. Find out how many BtC items are in the game. There needs to be AT LEAST that number of BtC storage space potential for any given character. From store, favor, or even loot (bag of holding style)
Do the same thing for BtA, because the shared bank is used as overflow storage for my ONE character, not to pass items back and forth to alts. Then add at least 10 to this number for scrolls, wands, and pots. Make all guild vendor items BtA instead of BtC.
And lastly, give us things like potion belts, wand bracers and scroll cases to hold multiples of these w/o taking multiple spaces. I don't care if it's like the cookie jar and items inside can't be used until removed. Make the item!

Also the post in my sig.

One of the producers promised something:

... We have engineers looking at additional storage space. There are a lot of different types of storage we could be working on, and it is often driven by data on what players are asking for as well as purchasing. ...

It ended up in couple more inventory upgrades and bag deposit box (sadly no BtC bank space, my poor encumbered Wiz):

(without going into a bunch of technical garble): we've been exploring how much more space we can add to the banks/shared banks. It's one of the reasons we introduced the "bag deposit box" was we identified that the items that go in bags behave differently than regular treasure. Because of that, we were able to increase the amount of space for the bag items into a much bigger chunk than the regular bank/shared bank (e.g. 250 slots instead of 10 to 20).

Also looking into whether we can expand that space to accept even more types of stacking items besides just the things that fit in bags directly, so effectively you'd be able to have your shared bank for your "real" loot (weapons, armors, etc) and the deposit box as a knickknack storage space (ingredients, festival stuff, ammo, potions, scrolls, etc), which would help people free up space in their main shared bank.

Once the engineering overlords have given it a thumbs up, we can add more space in varying places, and as it's available we'll bring more updates.

[Enoach]

Dear Devs, I think I haven't bugged you in a while about storage, so here is a friendly reminder: I would very much like to buy more bank space (to store items you insist on making BTC).

I don't mind paying TP for more bank space, but I've used all of mine up (and I have all the upgrades available). So please, could we get more bank and/or inventory slots in the Store? Thanks

As to the replys I know will inevitably come, such as:
- "you don't need all that junk"
- "I cleared my TR cache of 90% of useless thing"
- "I don't know how people accumulate so much stuff in this game"
- "Players are so OP they don't need twink items anymore"
- "I leveled from 1-20 with Korthos gear"
- "Stop demanding free stuff" (yes, even when I say I want to pay for it, I've seen these responses)
- "Devs shouldn't waste their time with this"
- "You've got a hoarding problem"

I'll save you some time and give my answer right now:

I enjoy collecting DDO items. I know I don't need 95% of it, but I enjoy having it. One of my loooooong term goals in DDO is to collect all named items out there. Maybe that's crazy to you, but not me. I hate throwing items away. And I'm willing to buy more space. Unbound, BTA and BTCOE items can be stored on mules. But BTC items can only be stored in the Inventory and the Bank.

As a side note, collecting items and storage would not be a problem if the devs made something like the Trophy Room (check my sig below).

First, I'm totally not against Turbine adding in more storage. It might be good for them to abandon the current tab pages of the bank and instead implement the continual scroll with the sorting/searching features options that are available for our backpacks. I think it would be nice to be able to open my bank and hit the Armor tab and see all my suites of armor etc.

But Dude you have a hording problem

[FAQ]

Finally this thread again!
Thanks!
(I have to spread out reputation before I can give you +1 again)

Yes, we need BtC bank space and it's urgent! (as it was 10 updates ago)

If the old Kundarak bank system is too hard to upgrade then Devs should create a new system (additionally), in which you could store BtC items.
New bank system should be seachable by name, ordered by ML/slot type/binding/raid/etc. (example: list all goggles that are in lvl range 10 - 15, and are BtA, order by ML)
Also this:


I'll quote some old good posts:





Also the post in my sig.

One of the producers promised something:

It ended up in couple more inventory upgrades and bag deposit box (sadly no BtC bank space, my poor encumbered Wiz):

Nice sum up! I agree with adding another system (on top of the existing one). I think I remember a dev post from a while ago saying something about them being worried about loading times if the bank got too large. Adding a new system would help with this, so ut doesn't have to load all at once.

[FAQ]

But Dude you have a hording problem

Hehe, I know. But as I tell my wife: It's better to hoard virtual **** instead of real life stuff.

[ssHarlock]

In topic i would also like to see more bank slots free or not for the time that i'm going to have all content this game has to give me and have nothing more to buy with my tp.

Off topic: Thats my thought and its not personal, its for every1 who thinks and hoards items like you.
Taking in to consideration that the game is party bassed and the player base properly equiped for EE is very low i hate guys like you, every item you loot and you don't need or sell it for shards or planing to maybe use it 15 lives later makes EE even harder.
What i would realy like to see is every player to be able to enjoy EE chalenge. We should be ashamed that mark of death, deathwyrm and fire under thunderpick are out for so long and have never been a single LFM for EE run at least on Sarlona.

In other worlds there are many and much better single player games you can try, leave mmo for party players.

[FAQ]

In topic i would also like to see more bank slots free or not for the time that i'm going to have all content this game has to give me and have nothing more to buy with my tp.

Off topic: Thats my thought and its not personal, its for every1 who thinks and hoards items like you.
Taking in to consideration that the game is party bassed and the player base properly equiped for EE is very low i hate guys like you, every item you loot and you don't need or sell it for shards or planing to maybe use it 15 lives later makes EE even harder.
What i would realy like to see is every player to be able to enjoy EE chalenge. We should be ashamed that mark of death, deathwyrm and fire under thunderpick are out for so long and have never been a single LFM for EE run at least on Sarlona.

In other worlds there are many and much better single player games you can try, leave mmo for party players.

Well, you can look at it the other way around. After I get the item I want, if I loot it again I put it up for roll.

For example, I already got my Epic Deific Diadem. If I pull it in a chest, I won't loot it again, I'll just put it up for roll for others who need it. On the other hand, if there is not enough bank space available, and I have to trash loot I already got, then I won't but putting it up for roll, will I? At least for me, more bank space for collectors means more items being put up for roll.

And I don't see the relationship between liking to collect things and multi- or single player games. I love grouping in DDO. And I collect stuff no matter which type of game I'm in.

[Enderoc]

We should have houses and junk the banks lol

[Enderoc]

You know how the government puts a hole in the ceiling to forever get money from you in a national debt slavery the elite collects on or sells in exchange for exploited labor agreements all over the world effectively making us pay their bills in the interest they purposely draw from us? I think its like that. You want to make other classes, buy more shards and hit the auction house while dumping the other gear that is not crafted, unique, top tier ,or multi-classed gear.

[TrinityTurtle]

Ha! You did a good job of anticipating the answers that would inevitably come from idiots.

Perhaps someone needs to learn the lesson that those with different viewpoints and opinions aren't idiots.

[Kylstrem]

Perhaps someone needs to learn the lesson that those with different viewpoints and opinions aren't idiots.

And perhaps one should learn that your rule above is incorrect.

Perhaps if you had said "aren't necessarily". But you stated it as fact that people with different viewpoint and opinions aren't idiots.

That's an idiotic statement. Of course, some people are going to have a different viewpoint and still be a complete idiot.

Any of the responses the OP anticipated would be considered idiotic based on his request, as all those are invalid arguments against the request.

[Chi_Ryu]

1) How many players have such crippling levels of hoarding to warrant more bank space beyond just you?

Yes, yes I would. I would pay well for more BTC storage.

[cdbd3rd]

Meh, who needs all that junk. What you don't use for three lives is completely unneccesary. I have no idea how people are attached to useless gear,....

I started to *chuckle* at the (hopefully) sarcasm, then realized how many years I've been paying storage fees for stuff I haven't touched in... *sigh* ...7 years now. Gah.


Art imitates life.

[Robai]

Spreading out reputation in this thread to everyone who clearly supports the idea (gave +1 to 6 posts so far).
Just saying

[Bird]

1) How many players have such crippling levels of hoarding to warrant more bank space beyond just you?

Count me too.
I can fly despite hoarding, but I want more BtC bank space and then fly faster.

[Grandern_Marn]

Dear Devs, ... I would very much like to buy more bank space

My addiction is not quite as severe as yours but I have my own struggles. I sympathize with your need for bank space.

/signed

[Trogloditas]

Dear Devs, I think I haven't bugged you in a while about storage, so here is a friendly reminder: I would very much like to buy more bank space (to store items you insist on making BTC).

I don't mind paying TP for more bank space, but I've used all of mine up (and I have all the upgrades available). So please, could we get more bank and/or inventory slots in the Store? Thanks

Yes, that would be be awesome!

[Grace_ana]

I know a lot of people were pushing for houses that would give us storage space. I didn't really care one way or another (except to want more storage space somehow), and I definitely didn't agree with the completely buffed-out houses some were suggesting. But then I got to thinking - houses would make a cool favor reward. Not completely favor, I'd say unlock with favor and allow you to buy it then. But what if places like House P, House K, etc. all had a house you could buy? You could unlock them and buy them in each area if you wanted. You could get all the storage you need. I would love to sort my stuff out between houses, like put all my rogue gear in my House P house (because they are sneaky) and all my divine stuff in my place in House J. It would give us more storage, much needed cool favor rewards, and better immersion into the environment.

[JOTMON]

Dear Devs, I think I haven't bugged you in a while about storage, so here is a friendly reminder: I would very much like to buy more bank space (to store items you insist on making BTC).

I don't mind paying TP for more bank space, but I've used all of mine up (and I have all the upgrades available). So please, could we get more bank and/or inventory slots in the Store? Thanks

As to the replys I know will inevitably come, such as:
- "you don't need all that junk"
- "I cleared my TR cache of 90% of useless thing"
- "I don't know how people accumulate so much stuff in this game"
- "Players are so OP they don't need twink items anymore"
- "I leveled from 1-20 with Korthos gear"
- "Stop demanding free stuff" (yes, even when I say I want to pay for it, I've seen these responses)
- "Devs shouldn't waste their time with this"
- "You've got a hoarding problem"

I'll save you some time and give my answer right now:

I enjoy collecting DDO items. I know I don't need 95% of it, but I enjoy having it. One of my loooooong term goals in DDO is to collect all named items out there. Maybe that's crazy to you, but not me. I hate throwing items away. And I'm willing to buy more space. Unbound, BTA and BTCOE items can be stored on mules. But BTC items can only be stored in the Inventory and the Bank.

As a side note, collecting items and storage would not be a problem if the devs made something like the Trophy Room (check my sig below).

I agree and am in the same boat.
I like my loot , I don't want to throw it away, its my loot.
I have purchased every storage space expansions on multiple toons and also have maxxed my 30 character slots on my main account , 3 upgraded alt accounts, a fully loaded guild ship, a 2nd guild ship for alts...

I have real money that I would be happy to give Turbine for more space .. do you not want my money?...
want more money.. Player housing would loosen my wallet....